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[edhan]

5001


4999

Do you know yet what shape it will be carved into?

Yes. It shapes like an tear-drop.

[chandrika]

5002
I was lucky to climb Mount Merapi as happened to be in the area on the Indonesian New Years Eve. So we climbed through the night (with a local guide) and were at the summit to watch the sunrise on New Years day. It is probably the most adventurous thing I have ever done and so memorable as I am sure that I could see the curve of the earth from up there. I am going to look thorugh my photo album and see if I have any photo of it...I must have taken a photo and if I find it I will post it.

So is your volcanic rock necklace available on your website and do you know which volcano the rock is from? Have any from Merapi?

[edhan]

5003


5002
I was lucky to climb Mount Merapi as happened to be in the area on the Indonesian New Years Eve. So we climbed through the night (with a local guide) and were at the summit to watch the sunrise on New Years day. It is probably the most adventurous thing I have ever done and so memorable as I am sure that I could see the curve of the earth from up there. I am going to look thorugh my photo album and see if I have any photo of it...I must have taken a photo and if I find it I will post it.

So is your volcanic rock necklace available on your website and do you know which volcano the rock is from? Have any from Merapi?

Bought it from the Shopping Center. Not too sure where it is from. Maybe I will ask them when I go to the shopping center.

[deepsand]

5004


... bathysphere, I guess that keeps the planet clean.
A deep thought.

[C0ldf1re]

5005

That's the number of teardrops the Sheriff has shed after being jilted.

[edhan]

5006

Life goes on but planet is changing. Hope we will do something for future generation as not to destroy the planet with disasters created by our wrongdoings.

[TrafficProducer]

5007

Maybe, (argh don't discuss this topic), climate change. Earh warms, hate from core=expanding ground=shifting eartquakes, volcano = more ash =more climate change 2012 roll-on


5002
I was lucky to climb Mount Merapi as happened to be in the area on the Indonesian New Years Eve. So we climbed through the night (with a local guide) and were at the summit to watch the sunrise on New Years day. It is probably the most adventurous thing I have ever done and so memorable as I am sure that I could see the curve of the earth from up there. I am going to look thorugh my photo album and see if I have any photo of it...I must have taken a photo and if I find it I will post it.

So is your volcanic rock necklace available on your website and do you know which volcano the rock is from? Have any from Merapi?

[edhan]

5008

Wondering what will happen in 2012 ???

[deepsand]

5009

2012 will be followed by 2013.

Those claiming that the Mayan calendar suggests/predicts 2012 to be the "end" have misunderstood it; 2012 is simply the end of one calendar cycle and the beginning of a new one.

[TrafficProducer]

5010 but will 5011 follow this LOL 2012 will be followed by 2013. I agree

[chandrika]

5012

5004


A deep thought.

I looked up bathysphere and terrasphere and although I would imagine the words refer to earth and water of the planet, I ask did you make these words up, because Wikipedia is telling me that a bathysphere is a submersible vehicle? Did you make these words up Deepsand ;)

[chandrika]

5013
I am a bit traumatised having spent last night in student digs that she shares with 7 art students, after going to her graduation day (which was great), but I had forgotten how students lived.

[deepsand]

5014


I looked up bathysphere and terrasphere and although I would imagine the words refer to earth and water of the planet, I ask did you make these words up, because Wikipedia is telling me that a bathysphere is a submersible vehicle? Did you make these words up Deepsand ;)
That's what happens when one relies solely on Wikipedia.

Terrasphere has multiple usages :


A tellurion; or,
The solid portion of a planet that is above water;
A simulator of Earth-like conditions.


No. 2 is today most often used by companies that specialize in environmental engineering.

Bathysphere is also used as an alternative for aquasphere - a word also not currently found in dictionaries - but generally referring to deep waters, such as oceans, whereas aquasphere includes both the shallow and the deep.

There are quite a number of words found in Science Fiction that have not yet made their way into formal dictionaries.

[edhan]

5015

Finally, sunny day after 3 weeks for rainy days ...

[deepsand]

5015

Turned too hot very quickly here; heat wave forecast.

[edhan]

5016

Heat wave? I wouldn't like that ... guess it will be better with the rain ...

[deepsand]

5017

With the one following the other here, the grass grew very quickly, and it's now too hot for me too mow it.

[edhan]

5018

Sorry to hear that ... maybe you have plant some trees to get more shade?

[chandrika]

5014

..There are quite a number of words found in Science Fiction that have not yet made their way into formal dictionaries.

They do make sense though, those words. I knew what you meant, so they probably will someday be more widely used.

With regards mowing the lawn...a sunhat with a fan attachment could be a short term solution http://smilies.blazemint.com/s/contrib/ruinkai/biggrinbandit.gif

Its raining here. Not acid rain though I hope!

[web1234]

Interesting thread, I thought the discussion would be about Playstation or of computer games..lol.. (heading was NEW GAME)
My count is
5019....

[chandrika]

5021
Ah sorry I didnt put in my count...back on track

[edhan]

5022

Happy Father's Day to everyone!!!

[chandrika]

5023
I just went out to lunch and for a nice walk with my dad to celebrate fathers day here.

[deepsand]

5024


Sorry to hear that ... maybe you have plant some trees to get more shade?
Used to have much shade.

Summer droughts killed the Japanese Maple and Pin Oaks; Winter storms decimated the White Pine and Arborvitae.

[deepsand]

5025


With regards mowing the lawn...a sunhat with a fan attachment could be a short term solution
Were it the temperature alone that was problematic, perhaps.

However, owing to chronic sinusitis, I've a problem breathing in anything other than low humidity.

[chandrika]

5026
Any possibility to move West?

"the parts of the West between the Rockies and the higher mountains of the West Coast states, generally called the Inter-Mountain Region, are the driest part of the country." Jack Williams, USATODAY.com weather editor

[deepsand]

5027

The dry parts are, for the most, also the flat hot parts.

I'm thoroughly acclimated to mountains and the unmistakable change of Seasons.

[edhan]

5028

In Singapore, we are doing alot of planting to keep us cool. But with the weather changes to be hotter than ever, maybe we can use solar energy to convert into cooling the environment. Unfortunately the cost of solar panel are still very high price. But then our government is starting to build buildings using solar panel ... that is good for future generation.

[deepsand]

5029

A lot of solar panels going up on utility poles around here; not sure what they're feeding, though.

Many of the road signs have been solar powered for some time now.

[chandrika]

5030
Solar panels powering air conditioning units, sounds good. Recently heard about a new type of solar panel thats been developed that is going to be less expensive
http://sify.com/news/now-cheaper-solar-power-windows-inspired-by-natural-photosynthesis-news-scitech-kgoqEijgcac.html

[chandrika]

5031

5027
I'm thoroughly acclimated to mountains and the unmistakable change of Seasons.
Yep, mountain air is supposed to be great, Switzerland used to be the place to go for recuperation for all kinds of things for Brits. Beautiful as well.

[deepsand]

5032


Yep, mountain air is supposed to be great, Switzerland used to be the place to go for recuperation for all kinds of things for Brits. Beautiful as well.
That's what I love about the Appalachians.

I've been westward on many occasions, and felt like I'm in the middle of an infinitely large and barren white room. :(

[chandrika]

5033
Oh of course, the Appalachians, they say that the place you grew up in is the environment you are best suited to. Right down to eating the food grown from the soil there.

[deepsand]

5034

Well, the Appalachians are a pretty long mountain chain, such that the climate and ecology varies greatly from end-to-end. Even so, I'd be comfortable, in all respects, over much of their range.

[C0ldf1re]

5035

Sorry, but I can't even try to contribute anything about mountains!

[deepsand]

5036

Well, then, streams, rivers, lakes, flora or fauna will suffice.

[edhan]

5037

I would love to climb mountains and hope to do it soon before I get too old to climb them!

[deepsand]

5038

In the mean time, why not practice on skyscrapers? :D

[edhan]

5039

Very restricted in Singapore. I must pack my bags and be on my way to USA ...

[deepsand]

5040

New Zealand has some very nice mountain ranges.

Mountain ranges of New Zealand: Listing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3AMountain_ranges_of_New_Zealand?powerse)

Mountain ranges of New Zealand: Images (http://www.google.com/images?q=new+zealand+mountain+ranges&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=VfggTJygE4W8lQf4jpFu&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDAQsAQwAw)

[C0ldf1re]

5041

Fauna. Guppies are very nice.

[edhan]

5042


5040

New Zealand has some very nice mountain ranges.

Mountain ranges of New Zealand: Listing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category%3AMountain_ranges_of_New_Zealand?powerse)

Mountain ranges of New Zealand: Images (http://www.google.com/images?q=new+zealand+mountain+ranges&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=VfggTJygE4W8lQf4jpFu&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CDAQsAQwAw)

Those images seem to be like heaven. It's calling out to me ... come ... come and visit ...

[deepsand]

5043

Circe beckons; and, from very near to you.

[Tubby]

As a training Exercise The British army used to teach young soldiers survival skills by hiking them to the top of A mountain in Scotland in the middle of winter. . . . Then they posted them somewhere tropical - wherever the action was. A whole platoon of soldiers freezing their balls off and sucking the last drop of flavour out of a bitter chocolate block - dreaming about North Africa.

Mountains are best in Post Cards. . Unless you are one who is inclined to climb them 'Because they are there'. .

[deepsand]

5045

Mountains are also very nice places to live if you're not one addicted to the omnipresent hustle and bustle of others.

[C0ldf1re]

5046


... sucking the last drop of flavour out of a bitter chocolate block...

Is my memory at fault? I seem to remember ration packs with Cadbury's Dairy Milk.

[chandrika]

5047
Flora: I just made a really nice drink from mashed up ginger root and hot water. I read recent reports that it works as an anti inflammatory pain killer and i had a headache. It was nice, I will wait and see if it cures my headache.

[edhan]

5048

It will be coming as time is approaching for a vacation.

[chandrika]

5049

5043

Circe beckons; and, from very near to you.

Holy Moly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moly_%28herb%29)!!!

[chandrika]

5050
Sorry DS you have told me already about wikipediaing everything :s

[edhan]

5051

I can smell the fresh air ...

[deepsand]

5052


Sorry DS you have told me already about wikipediaing everything
Not to ignore wikipedia, but to go beyond it. Has its use, as evidenced by


Holy Moly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moly_%28herb%29)!!!
Very nice find.

Now there's at least three who know the meaning of that phrase.

[chandrika]

5053

5051

I can smell the fresh air ...

I wish I could...I live in an upstairs apartment and my neighbours below me barbecue every night on their balcony. I am being smoked out here. I think thats why I have a headache..which was btw helped by the ginger mashup drink i made!! Deepsand, you might try my recipe as its also supposed to be good for your ailment...if you like ginger its nice, if you do not then you probably couldnt stomach it, but you can get extract pills. I mashed up a whole ginger root (about 60g) in 4 cups of water, drank it all and ate the mashed ginger, and it worked, my headache went and it was nice, but I like ginger, some people dont like it.

[briguy]

5053

I mashed up a whole ginger root (about 60g) in 4 cups of water, drank it all and ate the mashed ginger, and it worked, my headache went and it was nice, but I like ginger, some people dont like it.

5054
^..nice recipe...would "Flat" Ginger Ale have the same calming effect?

[chandrika]

5055
I imagine it would be pretty much same thing, except I think usually it has some sugar and lemon juice as well, so probably really nice. I think the original recipes contained yeast as well. Depends how much ginger is used in the recipe I suppose, it wouldnt have the bits in it either. Some shop bought ginger drinks, might contain only artificial flavors rather than real ginger, but I am sure some have real ginger, plus you can get supplements that are extracts of the active compunds. Reading around I do appear to have taken quite alot of it, articles suggest less than that is plenty. I had over 60g today...LOL... but I felt really good for it, almost instantly relieved my headache.


According to Black and his co-researchers, ginger's pain reducing effects are biologically plausible with both in vitro and in vivo animal studies showing an effect of gingerols, shogaols, and zingerones on inflammatory compounds. "[This suggests] ginger may have anti-inflammatory and analgesic properties akin to non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs," stated the researchers. link to reference (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reeds-inc-cites-new-benefits-of-ginger-in-pain-relief-2010-06-10?reflink=MW_news_stmp)

NSAIDS for pain relief have some side effects, such as stomach ulcers, so I dont like to take them. Paracetamol and aspirin are not so harsh on the stomach, but are not anti inflammatory like nsaids, and so arent quite as effective for certain types of pain caused by inflammation, like muscle aches etc.

[deepsand]

5056


NSAIDS for pain relief have some side effects, such as stomach ulcers, so I dont like to take them. Paracetamol and aspirin are not so harsh on the stomach, but are not anti inflammatory like nsaids, and so arent quite as effective for certain types of pain caused by inflammation, like muscle aches etc.
Actually, aspirin is an NSAID; i.e., it does have anti-inflammatory properties.

http://www.google.com/search?q=aspirin+anti+inflammatory&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[Tubby]

5046



Is my memory at fault? I seem to remember ration packs with Cadbury's Dairy Milk.

5057

Maybe your taste buds . . Unless the officers got 'Mars bars', NCO's got 'dairy milk'

Might be they gave out a non sugar variety to stop us thinking about sex. (they did things like that)

Maybe we got a cheap 'Job lot' at a discount.
I think the troops in germany on the wall were selling the Chocloate to the commies on the other side of the wall. (Sexual favours)

[deepsand]

5058

They also used to put saltpeter in our mess.

[chandrika]

5059

5056

Actually, aspirin is an NSAID

I didnt realise that, I havent often taken aspirin, but thought it was ok, as an nsaid though it could also bring on tummy ulcers. I only know this stuff about NSAIDS due to after an op i had I was given strong ones and i ended up in even more pain than i started with. Some people of course maybe more sensitive to such side effects than others. I mean I guess loads of people take nsaids with no problem.

[Tubby]

5060

It is possible that the amount of sugar in the chocolate is still an 'Official Secret' We may not be illegible to discus this until five years after we a dead.

"Saltpeter" YES. ,. I think it is just starting to work! . .

[deepsand]

5061


"Saltpeter" YES. ,. I think it is just starting to work! . .
Well, there was certainly no evidence of any effect on the Brigade of Midshipmen at USNA. :mrgreen:

So, either :
Its efficacy was greatly exaggerated; or,
Someone was selling it out the back door to one or more of the local Catholic schools.

[deepsand]

5062


I didnt realise that, I havent often taken aspirin, but thought it was ok, as an nsaid though it could also bring on tummy ulcers. I only know this stuff about NSAIDS due to after an op i had I was given strong ones and i ended up in even more pain than i started with. Some people of course maybe more sensitive to such side effects than others. I mean I guess loads of people take nsaids with no problem.
As is the case with any pharmacological, each responds differently.

And, some are more or less given to using such within the prescribed dosages.

[chandrika]

5063

5062

And, some are more or less given to using such within the prescribed dosages.

Ah, my ginger overdose was accidental, I was just guessing, there was no neat little insert with dosage instructions on the ginger root that came from the grocers in a brown paper bag. No ill effects except maybe i was over energised, as I have worked alot today/night and now can hear the dawn chorus and usually I would be fast asleep now. So I think i should probably get some sleepzzzzzzz.

[deepsand]

5064

Quite a bit different from those who pop 3 at a time, ever few hours, while the clearly stated recommended max. is 3 per day.

[edhan]

5065


5053


I wish I could...I live in an upstairs apartment and my neighbours below me barbecue every night on their balcony. I am being smoked out here. I think thats why I have a headache..which was btw helped by the ginger mashup drink i made!! Deepsand, you might try my recipe as its also supposed to be good for your ailment...if you like ginger its nice, if you do not then you probably couldnt stomach it, but you can get extract pills. I mashed up a whole ginger root (about 60g) in 4 cups of water, drank it all and ate the mashed ginger, and it worked, my headache went and it was nice, but I like ginger, some people dont like it.

Yes. I love it as well. But at times, it helps to release some 'gas' from the body that can be rather unpleasant. hehe...

[deepsand]

5066

Capture for fuel & water.

CH4 + 2(O2) = 2(H2O) + CO2

[C0ldf1re]

5067


... Well, there was certainly no evidence of any effect on the Brigade of Midshipmen at USNA.

You might have been even worse without it. You would have needed to set up a control sample, who ate or drank nothing officially-supplied, to be scientific. Bit late now.

[deepsand]

5067


You might have been even worse without it. You would have needed to set up a control sample, who ate or drank nothing officially-supplied, to be scientific. Bit late now.
Why too late?

Only difference between now and then is that USNA is now co-ed. :lol:

[C0ldf1re]

5068


... Why too late?...

Because, even if they once did it, they probably wouldn't dare do it now.

[deepsand]

5069


Because, even if they once did it, they probably wouldn't dare do it now.
Hm-mm; remember that it's the military that we speak of. Midshipmen would easily be deemed to be lacking a "need to know,"

[briguy]

5055
I imagine it would be pretty much same thing, except I think usually it has some sugar and lemon juice as well, so probably really nice. I think the original recipes contained yeast as well. Depends how much ginger is used in the recipe I suppose, it wouldnt have the bits in it either. Some shop bought ginger drinks, might contain only artificial flavors rather than real ginger, but I am sure some have real ginger, plus you can get supplements that are extracts of the active compunds. Reading around I do appear to have taken quite alot of it, articles suggest less than that is plenty. I had over 60g today...LOL... but I felt really good for it, almost instantly relieved my headache.

link to reference (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reeds-inc-cites-new-benefits-of-ginger-in-pain-relief-2010-06-10?reflink=MW_news_stmp)

NSAIDS for pain relief have some side effects, such as stomach ulcers, so I dont like to take them. Paracetamol and aspirin are not so harsh on the stomach, but are not anti inflammatory like nsaids, and so arent quite as effective for certain types of pain caused by inflammation, like muscle aches etc.

5071 Thanks for the info..Anyone else finding the FIFA games interesting? Quite the upsets!

[C0ldf1re]

5072

Football is boring. (Well, I don't dare say that in this country. I'd be lynched.)

[deepsand]

5073



Football is boring. (Well, I don't dare say that in this country. I'd be lynched.)
Hear, hear.

[C0ldf1re]

5074


Hear, hear.

And who has: Penn State Nittany Lions Football Tickets (http://www.hounddogtours.com/Pages/gateway.html) on the front page of his website? LOL

[kgun]

5075


CH4 + 2(O2) = 2(H2O) + CO2
So

C17H35COOH = ?


5072

Football is boring. (Well, I don't dare say that in this country. I'd be lynched.)
Because you have not played it yourself? It is the most facinating sport in the world. I find Hockey and American football boring.

If you ever go across the sea to England, visit Wembley (http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01391/wembley_stadium_1391111c.jpg) when almost 100 000 cracy Englishmen sing God save the Queen. Playing there can only be achieved in a dream. With all respect for South African culture and tradition, I think the vuvuzela (http://magiarubronegra.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/vuvuzela.jpg)can not be compared to that. Modern football / soccer was borne in England if I am not too wrongly informed.

[deepsand]

5076



And who has: Penn State Nittany Lions Football Tickets (http://www.hounddogtours.com/Pages/gateway.html) on the front page of his website? LOL
That would be the Penn State Ticket Man on his site.

And, his specialty is not soccer.

[briguy]

5075


So

C17H35COOH = ?


Because you have not played it yourself? It is the most facinating sport in the world. I find Hockey and American football boring.



5077
Well Hockey may be boring too you kgun but I like hockey cause it is easier to play in the winter time than soccer outdoors..I live in Canada (4 seasons)

[deepsand]

5078

So C17H35COOH = ?
Stearic acid.


With all respect for South African culture and tradition, I think the vuvuzela can not be compared to that.
"I'm grateful for vuvuzelas: finally, something annoying that America didn't create." - Andy Borowitz

[kgun]

5079

I don't like them, since singing will vanish if they spread all over the world. Don't misunderstand, it is facinating to see how another culture do it in their games. Fantastic arrangement so long. And the colours and the quality of the Tv pictures. Really facinating. The vuvuzelas are already spreading to Norway.

Ok8-) may be more neutral than singing that may be regarded as nationalistic:wink:.

Personally I liked The Slovenia / England match with "normal sounds" from the arena. Englishmen singing, and they can sing. The vuvuzelas that we here unofficially characterize as "summing bees" were quite silent in that match.

[kgun]

5080

5078

Stearic acid.


"I'm grateful for vuvuzelas: finally, something annoying that America didn't create." - Andy Borowitz

And

CH3(CH2)7CH=CH(CH2)7COOH =?

and

CH3(CH2)14COOH = ?

[kgun]

5081


5077
Well Hockey may be boring too you kgun but I like hockey cause it is easier to play in the winter time than soccer outdoors..I live in Canada (4 seasons)
The reason I have always regarded it as boring is because it is so difficult to see the hockey puck. Too fast for a slow Norwegian.

And soccer is Global. Hockey and American football especially, more local.

[chandrika]

5082

5065

Yes. I love it as well. But at times, it helps to release some 'gas' from the body that can be rather unpleasant. hehe...

I did not get that effect, but the day before I had had a nil by mouth day, so that is probably why, also come to think of it, probably why i drank so much...i was thirsty!

[deepsand]

5083


And

CH3(CH2)7CH=CH(CH2)7COOH =?

and

CH3(CH2)14COOH = ?
Oleic & Palmitic acid, respectively.

Mixing saturated and unsaturated fatty acids again?

[kgun]

5084

And this

HCOOH

one related to conservation and

C2O4H2 = HOOCCOOH

found in many plants like this (http://fil.nrk.no/contentfile/imagecrop/1.5741285?cropid=f169w650) that I don't know the English word for. (Rabarbra in Norwegian).

Interesting to see how different combinations of C, O and H make up famous acids.

[chandrika]

5085

this (http://fil.nrk.no/contentfile/imagecrop/1.5741285?cropid=f169w650) that I don't know the English word for. (Rabarbra in Norwegian).


Rhubarb

[deepsand]

5086


Rhubarb
Now I'm hungry for rhubarb pie.

[edhan]

5087


5082


I did not get that effect, but the day before I had had a nil by mouth day, so that is probably why, also come to think of it, probably why i drank so much...i was thirsty!

Likely that you just 'blurp' out the air instead of releasing the gas effect.

[edhan]

5088


5084

And this

HCOOH

one related to conservation and

C2O4H2 = HOOCCOOH

found in many plants like this (http://fil.nrk.no/contentfile/imagecrop/1.5741285?cropid=f169w650) that I don't know the English word for. (Rabarbra in Norwegian).

Interesting to see how different combinations of C, O and H make up famous acids.

Chemical formula ??? Oh no ... I didn't pass my chemistry and all I know is H2O that I have been taking everyday.

[deepsand]

5089


And this

HCOOH

one related to conservation and

C2O4H2 = HOOCCOOH

found in many plants like this (http://fil.nrk.no/contentfile/imagecrop/1.5741285?cropid=f169w650) that I don't know the English word for. (Rabarbra in Norwegian).

Interesting to see how different combinations of C, O and H make up famous acids.
Formic and Oxalic acid, respectively.

It is the latter that gives rhubarb its tart astringent taste . While the concentration of such in its leaves makes them quite toxic, the stalks, particularly when cooked, are generally not so. Rhubarb has also been part of traditional medicine for quite some time, particularly as a laxative.

Rhubarb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhubarb)

And, yes, organic chemistry is most fascinating.

[chandrika]

5091

5087

Likely that you just 'blurp' out the air instead of releasing the gas effect.

LOL ... BLURP..excuse me

[C0ldf1re]

5092


Because you have not played it yourself?...
If you ever go across the sea to England...
Modern football / soccer was borne in England if I am not too wrongly informed.

Of course I played football as a boy. England is not across the sea from where I am. Football was invented in England.

[deepsand]

There is an important difference between playing a game and watching others play it.

I have enjoyed playing soccer, and enjoy playing chess; but, I'd rather watch clouds than watch others play either of those games.

[kgun]

5089, 5090, 5091, 5092 and 5093


Chemical formula ??? Oh no ... I didn't pass my chemistry and all I know is H2O that I have been taking everyday.
The more I use and look at H2O, the more fantastic the liquid is.


And, yes, organic chemistry is most fascinating.
How many acids (and tastes) are unknown to us or not yet invented by mutation? How many are still hidden deep in the rain forests or in the Ocean? Like there is an infinite number of combinations of 0,1 there is an infinite number of combinations of C, H and O.



Of course I played football as a boy. England is not across the sea from where I am. Football was invented in England.
I only played with an audience of 5 000 people. Great experience. How is it to play with and audience of 100 000 people?


There is an important difference between playing a game and watching others play it.
Partly agree, but watching this WM is one of the best entertainments I can personally watch on Tv and that experience don't come close to being on the stadium.

[kgun]

5094

I have 4 species plants in my window:


Basillikum: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NsO_WNc-Ng4/SINUNThRUnI/AAAAAAAAAuQ/Uez_lKhTpCM/s320/Basillikum%2Bi%2Bblomst.jpg
Oregano: http://corditecountryshownotes.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/oregano.jpg
Timian: http://www.myrra.no/timian1.jpg
Sitronmelisse: http://www.matvareguiden.no/bilder/Sitronmelisse.jpg

that I mix in my food and sometimes eat as it is. H2O is extremely important for Basillikum. I nearly killed it, but tomorrow I gave it a dash of H2O and now it is Ok again.

Again I don't know the English words for the above plants.

[C0ldf1re]

5095


... I only played with an audience of 5 000 people. Great experience. How is it to play with and audience of 100 000 people? ...

Wow! Well done, that man. Don't keep us in suspense. When and where?

[edhan]

5096

Now I am testing to drink more O3 drink instead of just H20. Heard it supposes to be slight healthier.

[chandrika]

5097


5094

I have 4 species plants in my window...Again I don't know the English words for the above plants.


Basillikum: Basil - lots of antibacterial properties + anti inflammatory and nice with tomatoes, certain types of basil plants considered holy and kept and revered by people of several faiths. If you keep basil in your home it has long been said to keep residents free of ailments.

Oregano: Oregano -again antibacterial properties, the taste compliments basil, so nice with tomato sauce again.

Timian: Thyme - strong aroma that is said to impart courage and vigor and cure melancholy. A pick me up and nice with cheese also.

Sitronmelisse: Lemon Balm - Has sedative properties...long used to treat insomnia. Also has anti viral properties and works as an insect repellent. Nice with salad, potatoes and even in butter.

[C0ldf1re]

5098



Basillikum: Basil - lots of antibacterial properties + anti inflammatory and nice with tomatoes, certain types of basil plants considered holy and kept and revered by people of several faiths. If you keep basil in your home it has long been said to keep residents free of ailments.

Oregano: Oregano -again antibacterial properties, the taste compliments basil, so nice with tomato sauce again.

Timian: Thyme - strong aroma that is said to impart courage and vigor and cure melancholy. A pick me up and nice with cheese also.

Sitronmelisse: Lemon Balm - Has sedative properties...long used to treat insomnia. Also has anti viral properties and works as an insect repellent. Nice with salad, potatoes and even in butter.


Yummy! You're making me think of sandwiches with those ingredients.

[thersey]

I like this game! 5099

[deepsand]

5100

Another milestone reached.

[chandrika]

5101
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sport/sport-smiley-006.gif

[deepsand]

5102

How long can http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sport/sport-smiley-006.gif keep that up?

[chandrika]

5103
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sport/sport-smiley-006.gif can probably keep that up longer than i can. Being a looped gif must have its advantages.

[chandrika]

5104

5098
Yummy! You're making me think of sandwiches with those ingredients.

& lashings of ginger beer

(ref: famous five, enid blyton, in case FF is just a uk thing)

[deepsand]

5105


http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sport/sport-smiley-006.gif can probably keep that up longer than i can. Being a looped gif must have its advantages.

Yeah; but, what's the pay like?

[mjtaylor]

5102.

I think he's very cute.

[C0ldf1re]

5106


5102.

I think he's very cute.

A bit of blonde counting there. (Sob... from the girl who never told the Sheriff that she thought he was very cute...)

[deepsand]

5108


I think he's very cute.
He? Might be a she. ;)

[C0ldf1re]

5109


... He? Might be a she. ;)

Definitely a girl. OMG, another blonde on the forum!

[deepsand]

5110

Still looking for my raven girl.

[chandrika]

5111

5102.

I think he's very cute.

I agree, kind of motivational too, keeps on putting one foot after the other, no matter what.

[chandrika]

5112

5105



Yeah; but, what's the pay like?

I dont know, if it were a wav i may have asked. Gifs generally do not say much. ;)

[deepsand]

5113

WAVES (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAVES) are now an historical relic.

[C0ldf1re]

5114

When you find your raven girl, ask her if she's got a sister who would like to meet your friend.

[deepsand]

5115

Presumably a cousin or niece will serve equally well.

[C0ldf1re]

5116



Presumably a cousin or niece will serve equally well.
Just a good woman, that's all I want.

[chandrika]

5117

5113

WAVES (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAVES) are now an historical relic.

I did think after i posted referring to a wav file, that I should have put mp3 instead of wav, showing my age there! Interesting read on the Waves, I had not heard of them before!

[deepsand]

5118


I did think after i posted referring to a wav file, that I should have put mp3 instead of wav, showing my age there! Interesting read on the Waves, I had not heard of them before!
Have you heard of any of the other Women's Auxiliary Corps of WWII?

[C0ldf1re]

5119



Just a good woman, that's all I want.

Or a bad one. I could try to reform her.

[deepsand]

5120

How many years have you available for that?

[C0ldf1re]

5121

Yes, I take your point. Not one of my brighter ideas.

[deepsand]

5122

Oh, to have the wisdom of age, and the years of youth.

[chandrika]

5123

5118

Have you heard of any of the other Women's Auxiliary Corps of WWII?

I have heard of the WAF, who I thought was the Womens Air Force.

[C0ldf1re]

5124

As wikipedia says:

The Women's Auxiliary Air Force (WAAF), whose members were invariably referred to as Waafs (pronounced /ˈwæfs/ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English)), was the female auxiliary of the Royal Air Force (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force) during World War II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II), established in 1939. At its peak strength, in 1943, WAAF numbers exceeded 180,000, with over 2,000 women enlisting per week.

[chandrika]

5125
I am a member of the WAIF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waif)

[C0ldf1re]

5126

There used to be a charity called, "Waifs and Strays", to help homeless children, or "street urchins" as they were known. It has been amalgamated into "The Children's Society."

[deepsand]

5127

An ever so more sanitized name.

[edhan]

5128

It is back to hot weather after a cool spell.

[deepsand]

5129

Two week long heat spell her just broke a few hours ago.

Looking forward to being able to breath and sleep again; at the moment, I am physically exhausted.

[edhan]

5130

Lucky for you as you can have nice sleep. It is just the beginning of sleepless night for me though.

[deepsand]

5131

You have my empathy.

I'm just hoping that it stays cool enough long enough for me to catch up on everything that's piled up undone during the past two weeks.

[Alice_Ink]

5132!

hah

[C0ldf1re]

5133

Too hot!

[deepsand]

5134

With heat wave broken, I'm beginning to once more feel alive.

[C0ldf1re]

5135

It's midnight here in the UK. Just about bearable.

[deepsand]

5136

I'd have settled for "bearable" at midnight. Several nights didn't become bearable for sleeping until sunrise.

[chandrika]

5137
I havent really suffered in the heat in UK this year, it is v.hot here at the moment, but nowhere near the temps where you are. I keep the bath full of cold water and take a dip to cool off whenever necessary. Obviously I would rather a pool, but for now its just a tub, plus for sleeping, when your body temp drops it signals your brain to produce melatonin to put you to sleep, so I think it helps me sleep in the heat too, but like i say, much less hot here.

[C0ldf1re]

5138

I'm having cool showers 4 times a day, but after 5 minutes out of the shower I'm hot again. Why did my Saxon ancestors have to invade England? Why not Iceland?

[edhan]

5139

Our brains are being fried with heat stroke!

[TrafficProducer]

5140 UK Hot!!! I went to open a window, (more), this morning about 8:30 am 3 July and the handle was Hot, and this was before it warmed up. North East England.

[chandrika]

5141
Yep showers dont cut it, it has to be the tub, and you have to submerse for some time, at most 20C . A shower only cools your skin for a bit, submerse in cold water for some time till you are cold right through...if you can take the initial shock to the system...and stay put for sometime till your core temp has dropped.

Or :idea: u could get AC

[C0ldf1re]

5142

... it has to be the tub... Or u could get AC

It's OK for you in the tub. You're a girl. In the UK, the standard tub is not comfortable for a hefty six-foot ex-Military Policeman! Also in the UK, we don't have AC in the standard home. We rarely have really hot weather, and it is only blond pale-skinned people like me who truly suffer. (I wore a wig for my avatar, I'm really blond.) (I have to admit that our American cousins are more civilised in this respect, with king-size tubs and AC.) (And I don't want any blonde jokes from MJ! Blonde jokes only refer to girls. There are no blond jokes for men! BTW - where is my beloved MJ?)

[deepsand]

5143

Today marks the beginning of another heat wave; this one predicted to last for at least 6 days.

Has anyone seen the Global Cooling that the climate skeptics claim is happening?

[C0ldf1re]

5144

... Has anyone seen the Global Cooling that the climate skeptics claim is happening?

If it gets any hotter, I am going to turn to religion as a last resort!

[deepsand]

5145

Any particular religion the odds on favorite?

[edhan]

5146

Thanks God it rained and now I have a cool night!

[deepsand]

5147

Bah, humbug.

[C0ldf1re]

5148

Any particular religion the odds on favorite?

Do you still have the Indian Rain Dance in your country?

[TrafficProducer]

5149 "No Rain, No Rain, No Rain" 1968 Woodsock is having an impact at last LOL

[chandrika]

5150
either:
Whilst the other kids were at Woodstock...Traffic Producer was at Woodsock, a little known event in Holland where people make socks out of wood to wear with their clogs

or:
Woodsock? Is that the place where loads of blonde guys were found in 1968 because they couldnt find their way to Woodstock?

;)

[C0ldf1re]

5151

... loads of blonde guys...

You daffy blonde! Girls are blonde. Guys are blond.

[chandrika]

5152

5142
.....I'm really blond........ Blond jokes only refer to girls. There are no blond jokes for men!


5150
Woodsock? Is that the place where loads of blonde guys were found in 1968 because they couldnt find their way to Woodstock?;)


5151

You daffy blonde! Girls are blonde. Guys are blond.

Muhahaha you fell into my cunning trap to get you to contradict yourself ... tis ur punishment for ribbing MJ on ac of her blonde hair

:razz:

[deepsand]

5153


Do you still have the Indian Rain Dance in your country?
Yes; but, they don't seem to be particularly efficacious.

Yesterday saw the beginning of what's now predicted to be a 7 day heat wave. And, with each passing hour, projections for both the daytime highs and overnight lows continue to rise. :cry:

[C0ldf1re]

5154


Blonde jokes only refer to girls. There are no blond jokes for men!


5152


5142
.....I'm really blond........ Blond jokes only refer to girls. There are no blond jokes for men!


Muhahaha you fell into my cunning trap to get you to contradict yourself ... tis ur punishment for ribbing MJ on ac of her blonde hair

When you can't beat them, mis-quote them!

Chandrika is a blonde. She takes a ruler to bed... to see how long she sleeps.

[kgun]

5155


I'm having cool showers 4 times a day, but after 5 minutes out of the shower I'm hot again. Why did my Saxon ancestors have to invade England? Why not Iceland?
There they would have met Vikings from Western Norway. The Vikings dominated Europe for 200 years and the only people that have taken nearly all of England. Do you know why they did not dominate longer8-):roll::?:

And now English and Dutch lenders that have taken high risk want the Icelandic tax payers to pay the bill for them. Not very heroic IMO.

High interest rate imply high risk and high risk imply, ceteris paribus, a higher probability of a loss.

[kgun]

5156

Muhahaha you fell into my cunning trap to get you to contradict yourself ... tis ur punishment for ribbing MJ on ac of her blonde hair



A smart blonde.

A blonde went into a bank in London and asked for a small loan by using her Rolls as morgage. Ok, replied the bankier and drove the Rolls into the garage. Three weeks later the blonde returned, paid back the loan and should walk to the garage to get her Rolls.

In the mean time, the bankier had rated the bonde's creditwothiness and found that she was good for millions of pounds. Why did you ask for such a small loan aksed the bankier.

It is so expensive to park the car in London she replied and left.

Kgun wrote:
Do you know how the copper wire was invented?

Nobody has answered so long.
A smart blonde. (http://www.webproworld.com/webmaster-forum/threads/47513-Funny-Story?p=240924&viewfull=1#post240924)

[kgun]

5157


And now English and Dutch lenders that have taken high risk want the Icelandic tax payers to pay the bill for them. Not very heroic IMO.

They put their money in Icelandic banks to get a higher than normal interest rate. The Icelandic banking system grew 10 times the value of their national income, so everybody with a sound economic sense felt that something was wrong. Suddenly Icelandic banks popped up in Norway. As a former emplyee for 20 years in the Central Bank of Norway's research department, I asked myself why and how?

[chandrika]

5158
5154Chandrika is a blonde. She takes a ruler to bed... to see how long she sleeps.

:lol: C0ldf1re is a blonde. When told he would need a ruler to measure the space between his ears... he called the Queen.

[C0ldf1re]

5159


There they would have met Vikings from Western Norway. The Vikings dominated Europe for 200 years and the only people that have taken nearly all of England. Do you know why they did not dominate longer8-):roll::?:...

I did hear that Normandy in France started as a Viking settlement. Duke William of Normandy, who invaded England in 1066 to become King William I ("the Conqueror"), and his followers would have had Viking blood. Certainly, on my mother's father's side, I have part Norman descent, and therefore Viking blood too.

Please tell me more about why the Vikings did not dominate Europe longer.

[C0ldf1re]

5160

Chandrika is so blonde that when somebody gave her a penny for her thoughts, she gave change.

[kgun]

5161


Please tell me more about why the Vikings did not dominate Europe longer.
The version I have heard is that Danish and Norwegian vikings started to figth each other.

And their ships are fast even today. New sailboats have problems by beating their ships.

[chandrika]

5162
As far as I know Vikings never left Europe, they kind of integrated due to cultural influences, that assimilation duly influenced Scandinavian rulers military ambitions to focus on the Baltic regions, alongside Western Europeans in the Crusades.

Regarding getting change from a penny for my thoughts, its worse than that...usually people expect a full refund or replacement, claiming not fit for purpose under the sale of goods act 1979.

[C0ldf1re]

5163



As far as I know Vikings never left Europe, they kind of integrated due to cultural influences, that assimilation duly influenced Scandinavian rulers military ambitions to focus on the Baltic regions, alongside Western Europeans in the Crusades.


Didn't they try to settle in America, but fail because of too many hostile Indians?



Regarding getting change from a penny for my thoughts, its worse than that...usually people expect a full refund or replacement, claiming not fit for purpose under the sale of goods act 1979.


Very impressive! (For bonus points, tell me why their claim would fail.)

[deepsand]

5164

Once knew a girl nicknamed "Nickels."

Do the best of my knowledge, she didn't give change. Whether or not that owed to her being a brunette is open to conjecture.

[deepsand]

5165


Didn't they try to settle in America, but fail because of too many hostile Indians?
While Norse settlements in Vinland (Greenland and Eastern Canada/Northeastern US) are well documented, and evidence of presence has been claimed to have been found to the extreme western extent of the Great Lakes, I find no mention of hostilities with Amerinds being cause for their withdrawal.

[C0ldf1re]

5166


... I find no mention of hostilities with Amerinds being cause for their withdrawal.

Now you mention it, I was only repeating what I had read in a novel. It might have been the author's speculation. Do you have another theory why they withdrew?

[deepsand]

5167

Most likely cause for full scale withdrawal seems to have been climatic change during 1400s.

Vikings in North America - Minnesota State University (http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/vikings/index.html)

BTW, MN's NFL pro football team is the "Minnesota Vikings." MN has a substantial Lutheran Norwegian population

[C0ldf1re]

5168


... Vikings in North America - Minnesota State University (http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/vikings/index.html) ...

Some fascinating detail about King Cnut, or King Canute as he was called when I was a boy. But it omits the story about how he ordered the tide to retreat, and had the waves lashed when they disobeyed him!

[deepsand]

5169

Perhaps it were he who was lashed.

[kgun]

5170


Most likely cause for full scale withdrawal seems to have been climatic change during 1400s.

Climatic change or not - or because they returned back to where they came from. Norwegian saying. ("Borte bra men hjemme best" - Away from home is good but home is better.

Even today Russians / Ukrainians talk about Swedish vikings. They don't forget them. Russians have an excellent memory, and when NATO left Keflavik, Russia stepped in and said they would defend Iceland ( against whome? ).

Search query: Nato leave Iceland Russia defend Iceland

and you find articles like this:

Iceland invites Russia to keflavik air base (http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/iceland_invites_russia_to_keflavik_air_base.html)



BTW, MN's NFL pro football team is the "Minnesota Vikings." MN has a substantial Lutheran Norwegian population
I have heard that there are more "Norwegians" in the USA than in Norway.

[chandrika]

5171
Both Viking sagas and Mi'kmaq oral history describe the encounters...

It is said that the Vikings arrived in America almost 500 years before Columbus did. Leif Ericsson ventured SW from Greenland, to islands of N.Canada and then to the shores of NewFoundland, where it is said that they found the land so inviting that they stayed through the winter before returning to Greenland without any conflict.

Leifs brother Thorvald who at a later date returned to Leifs camp, is said in the sagas to have attacked 9 locals who were sleeping under canoes at the time. One escaped and returned with a force, and killed Thorvald, brief hostilities were said to follow, but still the rest remained there the winter.

Later another of Lief's brothers Thorstein went there to retrieve his dead brothers body, but just stayed the summer.

When in 1009 Thorfinn Karlsefni went, possibly with a view to settling there, relations between his party and the indigenous people show signs in records as having been peaceful, with tales of bartering between them.

Records of settlements that sprung up after that suggest they were short lived and mainly had the purpose of taking resources such as wood that was in short supply in Greenland. There is some speculation as to whether their short stays were due to hostile relations with locals, or due to them only staying as long as required to collect the resources they wanted.

cite
"The Vikings Discover America, ca. 1000," EyeWitness to History, www.eyewitnesstohistory.com (2005). (http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/vikings.htm)
Norse colonisation of the americas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_colonization_of_the_Americas#Vinland_and_L.2 7Anse_aux_Meadows)

[kgun]

5172

A relatively nice picture of Vikings that were not the most decent people when they visited England.

[deepsand]

5173


I have heard that there are more "Norwegians" in the USA than in Norway.
How prominent is Lutheranism in Norway?

[kgun]

5174


How prominent is Lutheranism in Norway?
That is our state religion and to be part of the Govenrment I think a majority have to adhere to Lutheranism according to our constitution. That is as far as I know more theory than practice. (And if you are part of the Government, that is the King's board, you can be brought to court by not expressing your meaning - that is being silent. By not expressing your meaning, you can become responsible for a wrong decision or action).

I think Norway is a much more secular state than the USA. Religion is not very important and the party that has the christian name, Kristelig folkeparti, swing above and below a socalled line to be represented in our next parliament.

[chandrika]

5175


5172

A relatively nice picture of Vikings that were not the most decent people when they visited England.

Well their arrival in Americas was some 200 years after invading England, by which time their rulers had outlawed many of their old practises, so I suppose they were not like the Vikings of old by then.

[kgun]

5176


Well their arrival in Americas was some 200 years after invading England, by which time their rulers had outlawed many of their old practises, so I suppose they were not like the Vikings of old by then.
And I think England got their revenge in later wars. The Battle of Copenhagen April 1981 (http://www.aboutnelson.co.uk/copenhagen.htm) is said to be the first terror bombing of a city. And the poem Terje Vigen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terje_Vigen), written by Henrik Ibsen also tells its own story.

[kgun]

5177

The year of terror bombing is of course 1801.:roll:

[deepsand]

5178

The one of 1981 was in an alternate universe.

[kgun]

5179


The one of 1981 was in an alternate universe.
Yes :lol: and be sure that the attack was by a person from the former British empire / commonwealth. Personal experience:


Disallowed to post on WMW in 2005 by a moderator from England. Asked to be deleted from the forum and has never since logged in. IMO some clear misunderstandings / misinformation on that forum around the time when AJAX was very hot.
One infraction on the Norwegian forum at W3schools by a moderator from Canda. I left the high school level forum.
One infraction on this forum for supporting you. Now it is no longer visible to me. My experinece with the Admins on WPW is far better than with some moderators.;)
Called an idiot on this forum by an Admin from a former competitive Englsih / American forum.
IMO insemantic move of posts on the SitePoint forum. The least serious case.

[deepsand]

5180

Despite my efforts, I've been but suspended once, from Military.com, for allegedly "threatening" a stalker by responding with


http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa12/sharewhat2/Emoticons/th_FP0005071-1.gif

No sense of humor. :rolleyes:

[kgun]

5181

Is that site an American?

I don't see that as the real reason. Behind the lines, I read that you may have been a too independent thinker, even if we (seemingly?) agree too often. No need for independent thinking in the Military. Reference Forrest Gump, one of my favourite movies. I can tell you that I made many officers desperate during my military service. Some of them were fired from civil jobs.

[deepsand]

5182

American, yes.

In the case in question, the stalker, an incorrigible sophist, complained to a Lead Mod., an unusually unbiased and very busy fellow, that I'd been stalking him, presenting, of course only the final exchange between the two of us. What was not obvious to the Mod. was that the other had been following me from thread to thread making but a single ad hominem post in each. Once I succeeded in getting the Mods. attention, and he'd the time to more thoroughly investigate, my suspension was lifted.

Still, I've not posted there in several years now. Simply too many grunts with sh!t for brains there; make for good cannon fodder, but little else. Officers and upper Enlisted grades are few and far between.

[TrafficProducer]

5183

So Vikings where de-bugged, re-programmed, when updated, LOL

[kgun]

5184


So Vikings where de-bugged, re-programmed, when updated, LOL
So you have some VikingBots? Are they bad or good bots?

[chandrika]

5185

5183

So Vikings where de-bugged, re-programmed, when updated, LOL

haha, funny analogy, but I think that what happened with the Vikings over that 200 year period between being in Europe and going to America, was more an integration of cultures, rather than one taking over the other. For example in England to this day most people have Xmas trees, that was an old Viking tradition adopted by Europeans, the Vikings used to decorate evergreen trees at the winter solstice. There were influences on both sides and neither culture was totally "reprogrammed" by the other so to speak, they both just adopted some of the others ways into their own cultures. There was a climate change around that time, a mini ice age, that meant that viking ships could no longer easily reach European shores, so they headed towards the Americas due to warmer climes.

[kgun]

5186

Seems that you know our history better than me. You should start a site about the topic;).

[C0ldf1re]

5187


And I think England got their revenge in later wars. The Battle of Copenhagen April 1981 (http://www.aboutnelson.co.uk/copenhagen.htm) is said to be the first terror bombing of a city.

The link points to a different Battle of Copenhagen, a battle at sea. Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson, the greatest sailor in the history of the world, defeated the stronger Danish fleet.

In the siege of Copenhagen, the British army used artillery to bombard the city, knowing that civilian casualties would be likely to ensue. This was standard practice for a besieging army, but the Danes thought that the British would be too civilised to do it to them. Sadly they were wrong, because the British had to capture the city before a French army could arrive.

[kgun]

5188


The link points to a different Battle of Copenhagen, a battle at sea. Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson, the greatest sailor in the history of the world, defeated the stronger Danish fleet.

May be, there has been so many wars in Europe. Our memory are often biased to the latest. The one I thought of was the war when England sent burning arrows over Copenhagen. I saw a Tv program about it, and it was concluded that sending these burning arrows over Copenhagen was the first terror bombing in history. That can of course be disputed. I have no illusion when it comes to other European nations and our neighbours. One of the biggest mistakes you do is to assume that it can not happe again. IMO it will happen again, especially if this financial crisis turns into something worse that many economists, and nobel prize winners claim. I have no illusion about human nature.

This statment:

"Admiral Lord Horatio Nelson, the greatest sailor in the history of the world, defeated the stronger Danish fleet".

can of course be disputed, too. The greatest sailor sounds invalid in my ears. He has been one of the greatest or the greatest Admiral in the history of the World, since there have not been many.

Regarding sailors:

I have two relatives from western Norway:


One has build his own sailboat and crossed the world's oceans with it.
His brother has invented a sail with a shape of an air wing that can cross 95% straigt againts the wind.

Regarding Admirals:

An admiral's profession is more of tactical nature than being a good sailor. You don't need good sailor abilities to defeat a better sailor if you have superior weapons.

Some people may mean that the admirals that fought the second world war in the pacific were better sailors according to your definition of the word. Everything is relative to the time in which it happen.

Image Google: viking ships

and you will understand that their conctruction is still unique. Beating them at their time of domination would be remarkable.

I am not a historian so you many know more than me.

By the way our best neighbour in history so far have been Russia. As far as I know there is only one place in the world where the Russian red army is still celebrated on the 8th of may, our common nordic border with Russia. The red army threw out the Nazis and retreated to their own territory. The good relationship between Russia and Norway has roots back to the relationship between exactly Russian and Norwegian vikings. While Churchill ordered English troops back to England a French General was angry since the allied was about to give the Nazis in Northern Norway the final defeat.

Sometimes it depends on whose glasses you watch history through.:shock:

[C0ldf1re]

5189


... I have no illusion when it comes to other European nations and our neighbours. One of the biggest mistakes you do is to assume that it can not happe again. IMO it will happen again, especially if this financial crisis turns into something worse that many economists, and nobel prize winners claim. I have no illusion about human nature....

Do you remember how everybody was talking about the World Food Crisis? Then the World Financial Crisis came, and nobody talked about the World Food Crisis any more.

The World Food Crisis is still getting worse. When people get hungry, they forget about being civilised to other countries.

[kgun]

5190


Do you remember how everybody was talking about the World Food Crisis? Then the World Financial Crisis came, and nobody talked about the World Food Crisis any more.

The World Food Crisis is still getting worse. When people get hungry, they forget about being civilised to other countries.
Exactly.

[edhan]

5191

Football is going for final on 12 July 2010. Gonna be sleepless night.

[deepsand]

5192

Weather has here already brought too many sleepless nights. :cry:

[TrafficProducer]

5193 Gonna be sleepless night. The match maybe so boring that we will fall asleep,easy... Vuvuzela's may keep us awake Just kidding :)

[kgun]

5194.

That final is one of my dream finals. The best sport event until the next finale in Brazil in 2014. I doubt that will be better. It can, if a normal Brazil team meet the other best team in the world.

Professional commentators here say that this time the two best teams in the world, at present, meet. Most seem to favour Spain and they played excellent against Germany. It is frustrating for normal teams to play against this Barcelona / Real Madrid dominated team that hardly let the other team borrow the ball. But they made a very big mistake, because of Spanish egoism and individualism, the match did not end 2 - 0. The Dutch say that such individualism would not have been possible in their team.

Such individualism can be the reason for a loss in the finale. I hope Holland win.

[edhan]

5195

Seems like all bet going with Spain...

[C0ldf1re]

5196

Kgun still hasn't told us about when he played soccer before a packed crowd.

[kgun]

5197

And I have played a match against Denmark on the national (Bank) team level. A Dane asked if I should participate ? I participated and we won 2 - 0.


I have slept inside the Danish central Bank and we had parties, I assume with Danish beer. We were singing


"We are red, we are white, you are red, blue and white ...


There are still Viking parties and they are not alwas civilised, buy doctors here say that it may be better with a real vikiong party now and then in stead of daily alcohol consumption.

I have also visited the Bureau of Statistics and the Central Bank of England, where a person stood in the same dressing that I assume have been used for the last 200 years.

[C0ldf1re]

5198


The 17th (our national day when children wave their flags, while other nations demonstrate their military power on those days) of may at the junior level a stone age ago. Here is part of our technical defense. (http://heim.ifi.uio.no/%7Ekristen/FORSKNINGSDOK_MAPPE/F_OO_start.html)

I was getting more and more confused about the relevance until I reached the cartoon.

[kgun]

5199

TrafficProducer's evil VikingBOT deleted that post.

[kgun]

5200 a mile stone according to Deepsand.


I was getting more and more confused about the relevance until I reached the cartoon.
In my opinion this is England's most dangerous man (http://www.mrbean.co.uk/). Each post here is on topic as long as you count.

[byronc]

5201 - holland for the win

[kgun]

5202

@C0ldf1re

Do you know how those cartoons relate to the subject of the article?

They illustrate the object oriented concept of encapsulation.

[byronc]

5202 - im half dutch too although only been in holland for a month

[byronc]

oops 5203 as kgun and I multithreaded

[byronc]

I just did a brainbench / visor java test - not one bloodi oo concept although it had some polymorphism code questions
5204

[kgun]

5206

With my heart, I hope that Holland win too, but my brain say that Spain win.

In the end we will have a new winner.

[byronc]

5206
at least this final has two underdos in it and not one of the big teams. I will be happy for either team to win - its going ot be exciting

[byronc]

5207 - underdogs

[kgun]

5209

I just did a brainbench / visor java test - not one bloodi oo concept although it had some polymorphism code questions
5204
Simula had multiple inheritance in the mid 1960's.

[byronc]

and java does no even have that

5208

[kgun]

5211


at least this final has two underdos in it and not one of the big teams. I will be happy for either team to win - its going ot be exciting
Who has bigger / better teams in 2010?

I have only seen Java code and to me it looks like simplified C++ as does C#.

[byronc]

5212 - well germany/england/brazil are the big names to me.

[byronc]

java is very simiilar to c# , c++ is more different. in java you can implement multiple interfaces but inly inherit from one parent class

5213

[byronc]

5214, how did you get so many green bars :) bribery :)

[chandrika]

5215

England's most dangerous man (http://www.mrbean.co.uk/). Each post here is on topic as long as you count.

Who here was saying they were from NE England? Anyway whoever it was, hope you are keeping your doors closed and eyes open for the latest currently reported most dangerous man in england..ie Raoul Moat!

Its going to be 30C here tomorrow...i need icecream.

Holland to win!

[C0ldf1re]

5216


Who here was saying they were from NE England?

Not me! If I went any further south, I'd fall into the sea. It's too hot here. I went to the supermarket yesterday, and finished up buying a ridiculous amount of food for a single man. I just couldn't bear the thought of leaving the nice air-conditioned supermarket! Holland to win!

[kgun]

5217

in java you can implement multiple interfaces but inly inherit from one parent class
Multiple inheritance is also possible at the interface, but not at the class level in PHP.

[kgun]

5218


Who here was saying they were from NE England? Anyway whoever it was, hope you are keeping your doors closed and eyes open for the latest currently reported most dangerous man in england..ie Raoul Moat!

Do you think he reads here?

[kgun]

5219

5212 - well germany/england/brazil are the big names to me.
Are you serious about England? Statistically Sweden have done it better since the 1930s and Italy have done it better by the same measure than Germany. I agree that normally Brazil plays the best football, but there was from the beginning something wrong with Dunga as a coach in my personal opinion, and he is fired as expected. When England won in 1966 there were some noise around the win, though not as bad as Argtentines "hand of God."

Germany, Italy and Argentine have sometimes come to the finale with two extremely defensive oriented teams. In this WM we have two finalists that attack after they have taken the lead. Holland nearly always play entertaining football. The same can be sad about Spain, but they have only had a tendency to be good before the WM. The opposite with Germany and Italy that has had a tendency to start bad and end in the finale.

We may have a very different opinion of good footbal at the national team level.

[kgun]

5220

5214, how did you get so many green bars :) bribery :)
In my personal opinion, I have got too few:shock: based on:


How many posts I have made here.
How long I have been here.
How many posts I have had on WPW's frontpage.
And I have got very many red based on my strong meanings.
Go to WPWs search box and look for threads started by kgun.
If you think I have got too many, you can start reducing them by giving red rep points. And If you join a group, you may be able to zero out all the green, so I end up with red bars. It's visibility are hidden at present. A great opportunity for some lobbyists.
But be careful with TrafficProducer's VikingBOT that is programmed at the assembler level.

[kgun]

5221

Holland to win!
According to the German octopus Paul, Spain take the gold medal and Germany bronce.

[C0ldf1re]

5222


In my personal opinion, I have got too few:shock: based on:ow many posts I have made here.

How long I have been here.
How many posts I have had on WPW's frontpage.
And I have got very many red based on my strong meanings.
Go to WPWs search box and look for threads started by kgun.



Good point, well made. Green added!

[deepsand]

5223


If you think I have got too many, you can start reducing them by giving red rep points. And If you join a group, you may be able to zero out all the green, so I end up with red bars.
Before or after Hell freezes over? :mrgreen:

[chandrika]

5224
Bizarre twist in the Raoul Moat saga goin on in England...anyone who saw the pics i posted of Gazza (http://www.webproworld.com/webmaster-forum/threads/101797-England-vs.-USA-the-Rivalry-Continues) crying when getting sent off in a previous world cup..so anyway thats Gazza and apparently he is one of Raoul Moats best mates and has gone to the area to assist him (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7882762/Raoul-Moat-Gazza-arrives-in-Rothbury-to-offer-his-support.html). Raoul is said to be surrounded by snipers and is laying on ground pointing a gun at his own head, but getting no updates except the news that Gazza is on the scene...it has all got weird...dont know what to think.

[chandrika]

5225
It was Traffic Producer who said he is in NE England (http://www.webproworld.com/webmaster-forum/threads/60607-NEW-Game?p=519394&viewfull=1#post519394) i know its a large area, but are you anywhere near Rothbury, if so any local news as to what is going on up there?

[Doc]

5226
I think Netherlands and Spain have both fielded excellent teams, and whichever way it goes, it will be a fine match.
I'm torn, really. Part of me wants to see Netherlands win, and part of me would like to see Spain take it. Time will tell. If I had to bet, I think I'd bet on Spain, but not with a LOT of confidence.
I would like to see Germany take third place, at least. Their defeat of Argentina was epic! :-P

[TrafficProducer]

5227

octopus Paul goes after Colours that reminds it of Cuttlefish, food


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH0tv6TiScE&feature=related

Are you anywhere near (Rothbury News (http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_en-GBGB384GB385&q=Rothbury++News)) not really; Middlesbrough, (near Newcastle relative)

Raoul Moat dies after shooting himself during armed police stand-off

Gunman Raoul Moat, who evaded capture for a week after shooting his ex-girlfriend and murdering her lover, has killed himself following a dramatic six-hour stand off with armed police (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7882906/Raoul-Moat-dies-after-shooting-himself-during-armed-police-stand-off.html).

(Someone said the shoot sounds more like a rifle, (police) than a shoot gun that Mr. moat had)

And the Northumbria Police said: “Police can now confirm that Raoul Thomas Moat, 37, of Newcastle, died in hospital early this morning.

If he shoot himself woudn't that be instant?

Mr Laidler, 35, a fellow doorman who has known the gunman since he was three, claimed that Moat had managed to get a message to his friends saying he had no ammunition left.

It has been said that 10% of Endlands and Wales Police where there: Is this a little bit over the top... Even for a killer (More like a war?)

: conspiracy theories already***

At least some good News:, sort of, (not good that it happend in the first place), PC Rathband is believed to be recovering from his injuries.

[kgun]

5228


It has been said that 10% of Endlands and Wales Police where there: Is this a little bit over the top... Even for a killer (More like a war?)
My bolding. Is that the end of England or a new country:roll:

The story were top news here too. Why don't you agree that Mister Bean is Englands most dangerous man like I think Jon Stewart

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-7-2010/the-crumpets-take-manhattan

is for the USA?

Back to football, it is the first time in history the final is between two kingdoms.

[byronc]

5220



But be careful with TrafficProducer's VikingBOT that is programmed at the assembler level.


5220 - viking bot is a bot?

[byronc]

5226
I think Netherlands and Spain have both fielded excellent teams, and whichever way it goes, it will be a fine match.
I'm torn, really. Part of me wants to see Netherlands win, and part of me would like to see Spain take it. Time will tell. If I had to bet, I think I'd bet on Spain, but not with a LOT of confidence.
I would like to see Germany take third place, at least. Their defeat of Argentina was epic! :-P
5221
for some reason i dont want Germany to ever do well, I think it was an arrogant German guy who worked with me who, while we were discussing who would likely win the word cup, literally burst in in red faced anger about how Obviously Germany should win statistically based on past efforts and results. it was a wtf moment.

[byronc]

5227

octopus Paul goes after Colours that reminds it of Cuttlefish, food


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH0tv6TiScE&feature=related

Are you anywhere near (Rothbury News (http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_en-GBGB384GB385&q=Rothbury++News)) not really; Middlesbrough, (near Newcastle relative)

Raoul Moat dies after shooting himself during armed police stand-off

Gunman Raoul Moat, who evaded capture for a week after shooting his ex-girlfriend and murdering her lover, has killed himself following a dramatic six-hour stand off with armed police (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7882906/Raoul-Moat-dies-after-shooting-himself-during-armed-police-stand-off.html).

(Someone said the shoot sounds more like a rifle, (police) than a shoot gun that Mr. moat had)

And the Northumbria Police said: “Police can now confirm that Raoul Thomas Moat, 37, of Newcastle, died in hospital early this morning.

If he shoot himself woudn't that be instant?

Mr Laidler, 35, a fellow doorman who has known the gunman since he was three, claimed that Moat had managed to get a message to his friends saying he had no ammunition left.

It has been said that 10% of Endlands and Wales Police where there: Is this a little bit over the top... Even for a killer (More like a war?)

: conspiracy theories already***

At least some good News:, sort of, (not good that it happend in the first place), PC Rathband is believed to be recovering from his injuries.
5224
first time I hear this, is on here, very sad nerd

[kgun]

5132

5220 - viking bot is a bot?
That is a joke related to an earlier post by TrafficProducer. Read below / scroll down.

[chandrika]

5233

Just after I posted there was tv footage of what was going on. Pretty disturbing, just heard a man roaring in what sounded like pain, dogs barking, man shouting, get the gun away, get the gun away then statement from police that he had been shot. DOA on arrival at hospital 1 hour later. Today they have just said they tasered him, that would explain the roars of pain I heard. Tasers are a sick torture device. I did not hear any gun shots, but it was raining, there was what sounded like rain.

[kgun]

5234


I did not hear any gun shots, but it was raining, there was what sounded like rain.
P.S.
I love Hemingways simple style. In his books, rain symbolices death as I think crows do in Van Gogh's paintings.

[chandrika]

5235

5234

P.S.
I love Hemingways simple style. In his books, rain symbolices death as I think crows do in Van Gogh's paintings.

I did not know that.....then it was apt (and v.sad) that it sounded like rain, but I was actually wondering of what was reported as the sound fo rain, was taser fire, i dont know what it sounds like, but long burst could sound like static sound, a bit like rain...there is the bbc footage here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknTKNMGf30&feature=related), where you can hear the sound, see what I mean, do you think the sound could have been a long burst of powerful taser fire?

[kgun]

5236

... ,do you think the sound could have been a long burst of powerful taser fire?
You may have noted that I have problems with my museum computer and FF. I always use FF when I visit WPW from my computer. Opera is too secure for the vBulletin software. So that video can not be shown in FF / Flash.

You assume my English is too good. What is taser fire?

[chandrika]

5237

5236

You assume my English is too good. What is taser fire?

Sorry Kgun..your english IS usually pretty good...Tasers are like guns, except they do not fire bullets, they fire wires that hook into a person and deliver a current of electricity. Usually used on low setting in a short burst that just briefly stuns a man. If turned to high power and fired for long period a taser could kill a man...painfully. So I thought the rain like sound may have been the firing of a taser, set to a high voltage and fired for a long period, a static sound of electricty. I am just speculating although the police have said they used a taser.

[kgun]

5238


Sorry Kgun..your english IS usually pretty good...Tasers are like guns, except they do not fire bullets, they fire wires that hook into a person and deliver a current of electricity. Usually used on low setting in a short burst that just briefly stuns a man. If turned to high power and fired for long period a taser could kill a man...painfully. So I thought the rain like sound may have been the firing of a taser, set to a high voltage and fired for a long period, a static sound of electricty. I am just speculating although the police have said they used a taser.
Off and on topic as usual:

Police may be more advanced there than here. A few days ago American police "intervended" in an alkaida related case here, by forcing a too fast arrest. Perhaps not to smart unless it prevented a terror attack. Two persons are arrested in Norway and one with a Norwegian citicenship in Germany. The problem here is that it is much more difficult to jail them for actions that have not been done than in the USA. And a long trial may be needed to put them in jail. The provoked arrest is here seen as an intervention in a potential trial with the result that it is more difficult to get them jailed.

My son knows much more about this since he took a year at high school in the USA with top ratings. Here he is a little above average. LOL

He told me how the Americans can use "electrical bombs" to kill a network etc. He also shockingly told me that telephone bots (with and without manual intevention) called you to sell you products. Some days ago I lost my mobile phone in water with the expected result that it did not function any longe. I put it outside in the sun. Suddenly it functioned and I talked to him. He told me that I could have expected the phone to get a betteryt brake when I tried it after falling in the water. Some hours after I called him it did not function any longer.

I want a new iPhone 4G, but they are too expensive here. A trip to the USA can nearly finance a buy. Should I wait for an iPhone 5G.

[TrafficProducer]

5239 http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/we...take-manhattan (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-7-2010/the-crumpets-take-manhattan) Not working in the UK

[TrafficProducer]

5240 Please explain to me Viking Bot, or is it Viking Boat... we will all sink in the rain when it comes :)

[TrafficProducer]

5241

Raoul Moat (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20100711/tuk-questions-over-taser-use-in-raoul-mo-dba1618.html) One of the fugitive's friends brought in to speak to him during the tense negotiations said he thought the stun gun triggered Moat to shoot himself in the head.

...

A post-mortem examination gave the cause of Moat's death as gunshot wounds consistent with the weapon he was carrying.

[chandrika]

5242
Report I read said that at 10.55pm, negotiators told police they thought he was about to committ suicide and so the firearms teams were given the authority to shoot him if they had the opportunity, but with less-lethal options, meaning either a Taser (stun gun) or a baton round. He died at 1.15am, possibly over 2 hours with electrodes stuck in him getting shock treatment before he died? It would explain why over that time he got weaker and weaker till he was just laying face down on ground and hardly able to speak, his gradually weakening state they say was because of the heavy rain and his refusal to put on a waterproof jacket offered him.

[kgun]

5243

In our news, the police will be investigated. It is unclear whether the "electric gun" were fired before or after he shot himself.

[byronc]

5244
bah, s-pain won

[byronc]

good luck to them anyway
5245

[chandrika]

5246
I saw half time score..was rooting for Holland, did not watch...thought it was semi finals (doh)...would have watched (maybe) had I known it was the final...so Spain won the world cup...2014 will come round soon enough...wonder how far we will have counted by then.

[kgun]

5247


I saw half time score..was rooting for Holland, did not watch...thought it was semi finals (doh)...would have watched (maybe) had I known it was the final...so Spain won the world cup...2014 will come round soon enough...wonder how far we will have counted by then.
Great for soccer that Spain won. Holland destroyed the match and should have had a red card early in the match. It was an English referee.

My bolding, may be some of us have left to other places long before that like the Forum David / ctabuk started: http://www.seoers.org/BB/

[C0ldf1re]

5248


... It was an English referee...

What by this he meaning is?

[edhan]

5249

It was a good game. Finally ends the sleepless nights!

[C0ldf1re]

5250

Now what were we talking about before football happened? How does one program a VikingBot? (And please nobody say in Simula!)