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deepsand
11-11-2009, 05:42 PM
3751

So, au naturale. :D

Urban Dictionary: au naturale (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=au+naturale)

Doc
11-11-2009, 06:05 PM
3751

So, au naturale. :D

Urban Dictionary: au naturale (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=au+naturale)

That would be ENTIRELY too much information!

Let's pray he doesn't wear a bloody kilt! :shock:

deepsand
11-11-2009, 06:42 PM
3753

It's only periodically bloody.

Doc
11-11-2009, 08:11 PM
3753

It's only periodically bloody.


:rolleyes:

I rarely read periodicals!

Dubbya
11-12-2009, 09:22 AM
3754 - Bah, bloody periodicals!

Mornin' all.

Doc
11-12-2009, 11:32 AM
3756

Mornin', Dubbya!

As soon as I get another cuppa in me, I'm headed off to wait in line to cross the border. That'll kill a couple of hours! :(

deepsand
11-12-2009, 12:52 PM
3757

Jet pack not working?

Uncle Dog
11-12-2009, 01:42 PM
3758 - It runs on alcohol.

deepsand
11-12-2009, 02:12 PM
3759

You'd better not be wasting perfectly good Scotch as fuel for yours.

Uncle Dog
11-12-2009, 05:26 PM
3760 No! I'm the only thing that runs on alcohol around here.

deepsand
11-12-2009, 05:39 PM
3761

In that case, how about running some of that tendered Scotch over to Doc and me?

Uncle Dog
11-12-2009, 05:49 PM
3762 - I've tried laying an undersea rubber tube (hospital surplus) with my new 'Canorine' (I got a sub' and turned it upside down) but around Iceland the tension got too much and ripped the keel out.

Doc
11-12-2009, 06:22 PM
3763

Deepsand, old boy...

I'm beginning to believe that if we want any of that wondrous elixir, we're gonna have to go get it!

Bruichladdich or Bust! :arrow:

deepsand
11-12-2009, 06:59 PM
3764


I've tried laying an undersea rubber tube (hospital surplus) with my new 'Canorine' (I got a sub' and turned it upside down) but around Iceland the tension got too much and ripped the keel out.

Just load the comestibles into a torpedo, and fire it our way; we'll deploy a sea net for capture of such.

deepsand
11-12-2009, 07:50 PM
3765


I'm beginning to believe that if we want any of that wondrous elixir, we're gonna have to go get it!
And, ever so stealthily, lest the bugger hide it. ;)

Doc
11-13-2009, 12:28 AM
3765


And, ever so stealthily, lest the bugger hide it. ;)

3766

Or drink it first! :rolleyes:

Dubbya
11-13-2009, 12:54 PM
3767 - Now for the joke du jour:


A guy goes into a bar and says "bartender, I've been in jail 21 years, give me a shot of 21 year old scotch!"

The bartender thinks to himself, how's he gonna know the difference and gives him 7 year old scotch.

The guy takes a sip and spits it out and yells, "that's 7 year old scotch, i asked for 21 year old scotch!"

The bartender figures its a lucky guess and gives him 14 year old scotch.

The guy takes a sip and spits it out yelling, "that's 14 year old scotch, I asked for 21 year old scotch!"

Finally, the bartender gives him 21 year old scotch and the guy drinks it up with a smile.

A drunk in the corner sees this and walks up with a glass in his hand, gives it to the guy and says "here try this!"

The guy takes a sip and spits it out and yells, "that tastes likes piss!"

The drunk says "ya, but how old am I?"


Have a great weekend fellas!

deepsand
11-13-2009, 02:36 PM
3768

ROTFLMAO :lol:

A good way to end a sorry week. :D

Uncle Dog
11-13-2009, 02:49 PM
3769 - I don't care how old you are!

deepsand
11-13-2009, 03:09 PM
3770

What makes you think that I care?

jabo
11-15-2009, 11:00 PM
3771

nothings happening in my life...

jabo
11-15-2009, 11:01 PM
3772

now isn't that just boring

deepsand
11-15-2009, 11:04 PM
3773

How can we best entertain you?

Doc
11-15-2009, 11:06 PM
3772

now isn't that just boring


3773

Sometimes, my friend, boring can be good.

Last night, for instance, wasn't the least bit boring around my house.

The local cops, a couple of squads of soldiers, and a handful of narcotraficantes had a shoot-em-up at the convenience store across the street, and my next door neighbor's house got their front bedroom window shot out.

We had no damage, other than a VERY nervous dog. :D

Boring ain't always bad. ;)

jabo
11-15-2009, 11:11 PM
3775

well, good to know your alright... well, I wouldn't want my life to be that errr, whats the right term for it? spontaneous? lol... I probably would run up my room and hide under the bed once I hear some guns poppin or something...

Doc
11-15-2009, 11:18 PM
3775

well, good to know your alright... well, I wouldn't want my life to be that errr, whats the right term for it? spontaneous? lol... I probably would run up my room and hide under the bed once I hear some guns poppin or something...

Unfortunately, it's all too common here. Which is when it gets dangerous... when you stop being nervous about it. :|

dharrison
11-16-2009, 07:59 AM
Nuaghty naughty doc, you forgot the prupose of this thread. I shall do it for you.

3776

Dear oh dear, what would you do without me. ;)

Dubbya
11-16-2009, 01:03 PM
3777 - Dunno, Deb!

Thanks for getting things back on track!

Doc
11-16-2009, 01:08 PM
3778 & 3779

Thanks, Deb... not the first time a lovely lady has had to pull my feet out of the fire, I assure you! ;)

And how are you this fine day, Dubbya?

deepsand
11-16-2009, 03:05 PM
3780

Odd thing is, it was Doc himself who actually got it "back on track!"

Doc
11-16-2009, 03:24 PM
3780

Odd thing is, it was Doc himself who actually got it "back on track!"


3781

Then it must have been an accident! :p

deepsand
11-16-2009, 04:00 PM
3782

Of the serendipitous kind. :D

Uncle Dog
11-16-2009, 05:13 PM
3783 Ah! Serendipity Doc - "Dag Nabit"

Doc
11-16-2009, 05:26 PM
3783 Ah! Serendipity Doc - "Dag Nabit"


3784


Serendipity Doc...

Hey, that rhymes with Hickory Dickory Dock!:D

Uncle Dog
11-16-2009, 05:41 PM
3785 'dipity Doc? - "What's up Muskie?"

deepsand
11-16-2009, 08:09 PM
3786

The Clock struck one; the other two escaped with minor injuries.

kgun
11-16-2009, 08:30 PM
3787

I miss David.

Rule Britannia, but not over Norway, please.

deepsand
11-16-2009, 08:43 PM
3788

As do I; and, would you, were you to depart.

artagnan1978
11-17-2009, 11:47 AM
3789 - Hello everybody... keep the thread alive :)

Doc
11-17-2009, 11:49 AM
3790

Hello, Artagnan! Where have you been hiding? :D

Uncle Dog
11-17-2009, 03:01 PM
3791 - Boo!

Dubbya
11-17-2009, 03:51 PM
3792 - boo who?

Uncle Dog
11-17-2009, 03:55 PM
3793 - Lean

deepsand
11-17-2009, 06:05 PM
3794

Lean = Sinker.

genie.liam
11-17-2009, 07:04 PM
3795

Who's next?

deepsand
11-17-2009, 07:12 PM
3796

That would be Boo.

edhan
11-17-2009, 08:00 PM
3797

I am on a winning streak!!!

Doc
11-17-2009, 08:24 PM
3798


Winning streaks are good, Ed! :D

jabo
11-17-2009, 08:28 PM
3799

just fell asleep and hit my head on my monitor, lucky I'm on my pc not on my car...

deepsand
11-17-2009, 09:13 PM
3800

Is the monitor okay? ;)

Uncle Dog
11-18-2009, 02:34 AM
3801 - Didn't know you kept lizards, Jabo!

deepsand
11-18-2009, 03:14 PM
3802

Tasty news: Drilling for Scotch. :D

Beverage Company Drilling For Whiskey In Antarctica's Ice (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/17/beverage-company-drilling_n_360540.html)

Uncle Dog
11-18-2009, 05:19 PM
3803 - Ice? Ice? Sacrilege!

Doc
11-18-2009, 05:58 PM
3803 - Ice? Ice? Sacrilege!


This from a guy that lives in the land of warm beer! :rolleyes:

Uncle Dog
11-18-2009, 06:08 PM
3804 & 3805 - People who like their alcohol really cold do so because it take's away the "nasty icky burny taste"

deepsand
11-18-2009, 06:30 PM
3806

Perhaps.

Then, again, it may just be because warm beer tastes like p!ss. :(

Doc
11-18-2009, 06:38 PM
3807

I almost got used to drinking room temperature beer when I was in GB.

But then, I almost got used to eating C-rations when I was in 'Nam, too!

I guess if you're thirsty enough, you'll drink almost anything:!:

Uncle Dog
11-18-2009, 06:39 PM
3808 - Your one of those softies that needs to be thirsty, eh?

Uncle Dog
11-18-2009, 06:41 PM
3809
3806...because warm beer tastes like p!ss. :(
Not my area of expertise.

edhan
11-18-2009, 08:07 PM
3810

Nice weather gave me a sweet dream

Doc
11-18-2009, 08:14 PM
3810

Nice weather gave me a sweet dream


3811

I hope it was raining there, then! :D

edhan
11-18-2009, 08:31 PM
3812

Yes. It was raining in the afternoon and evening. That is why I had a sweet dream where the weather is so cooling.

deepsand
11-18-2009, 08:35 PM
3812


I hope it was raining there, then! :D

Do you think that the implied phrase is well known and understood in Singapore? ;)

deepsand
11-18-2009, 08:40 PM
3813


Not my area of expertise.
Are you afflicted with anosmia?

Doc
11-18-2009, 11:16 PM
3812



Do you think that the implied phrase is well known and understood in Singapore? ;)


I suppose not. But it translates well into Spanish.

And I imagine our Scot friend caught it. :p

Uncle Dog
11-19-2009, 02:24 AM
3816 - Anosmia punning opportunity when I see one.

Doc
11-19-2009, 02:35 AM
3816 - Anosmia punning opportunity when I see one.

3827

See? I TOLD you he was pretty sharp!

He just ain't worth a damn at delivering whiskey!8)

artagnan1978
11-19-2009, 09:37 AM
3818 - keep this thread alive!

deepsand
11-19-2009, 02:46 PM
3819


He just ain't worth a damn at delivering whiskey!8)
But, I'll bet he's real good at transforming it into something akin to warm beer. ;)

Uncle Dog
11-19-2009, 06:26 PM
3820 - and then I chill it and export it.

deepsand
11-19-2009, 06:56 PM
3821

I think I've had some of that; brand name "Dog P!ss?

Uncle Dog
11-20-2009, 02:49 AM
3822 - What 'comes a round, goes a round. Mine's a dram.

dharrison
11-20-2009, 04:22 AM
3823 - Morning all. ;)

Dubbya
11-20-2009, 09:57 AM
3824 - Mornin' Debs. Have a great day everyone!

kgun
11-20-2009, 11:38 AM
3825

It is Deb's birthday :-)

http://www.webproworld.com/castle-breakroom-general-any-topic/94424-debbie-happy-birth-day-you.html#post478991

deepsand
11-20-2009, 01:12 PM
3826

2010 Army Weapon Systems (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/wsh2010/index.html)

Uncle Dog
11-20-2009, 05:36 PM
3827 - Oh man! They've got like a Joint Warning and Reporting Network (JWARN) thing. Heavy!

Doc
11-20-2009, 06:25 PM
3827 - Oh man! They've got like a Joint Warning and Reporting Network (JWARN) thing. Heavy!

3828

My grandfather had Joint Warning.

His elbow used to pain him no end, when a storm was coming.

Never failed!;)

deepsand
11-20-2009, 07:20 PM
3829


Oh man! They've got like a Joint Warning and Reporting Network (JWARN) thing. Heavy!
Glad you spotted that; perhaps they can help with my arthritic shoulder and wrist. :D

Uncle Dog
11-21-2009, 12:15 PM
3830 - Solely for medicinal purposes, of course.

deepsand
11-21-2009, 12:30 PM
3831

But of course. ;)

Doc
11-21-2009, 02:02 PM
3832

Thank goodness!

I thought Joint Warning might be some sort of a drug enforcement tool! :lol:

Uncle Dog
11-21-2009, 02:28 PM
3833 - Alert! Alert! Whisky induced joint failure in 10, 9, 8...

deepsand
11-21-2009, 03:30 PM
3834

Ahhh; Scotch induced euphoria. :D

Doc
11-21-2009, 04:09 PM
3834

Ahhh; Scotch induced euphoria. :D

3835

There are better anesthetics, but none as enjoyable (except perhaps a good, sourmash whiskey)

deepsand
11-21-2009, 05:13 PM
3836

I find several proper Black Russians equally satisfying and efficacious.

edhan
11-21-2009, 10:20 PM
3837

Things are moving along just fine.

Doc
11-21-2009, 11:39 PM
3838

Now you've got my curiosity up, DS. I know what I call a proper Black Russian... 1/2 Kahlua, 1/2 Stoly, no ice. What's your version?

artagnan1978
11-22-2009, 05:32 AM
3839 - A pleasant Sunday to everyone

deepsand
11-22-2009, 01:20 PM
3840


Now you've got my curiosity up, DS. I know what I call a proper Black Russian... 1/2 Kahlua, 1/2 Stoly, no ice. What's your version?
Faux Black Russians substitute a chocolate liqueur for that of coffee.

To add insult to injury, the house vodka used by many is pure unadulterated crap; a truly good vodka is tasteless.

Doc
11-22-2009, 04:17 PM
3841

When I was living in Mexico City, I had a Russian friend that drank expresso with Stoly, but he never called it a black russian... just coffee.

And he could put down a half dozen of 'em in a very short time, too. But then, he drank vodka like it was water.

Personally, I like straight vodka. I usually have a bottle of Stoly in the freezer, in case of snakebite. ;)

deepsand
11-22-2009, 06:37 PM
Vodka is a diminutive of voda, which means "water."

The two sound very much alike, with the greatest distinction being that the latter has the accent on the 2nd syllable; i.e., va-DUH. The failure to so pronounce, combined with the fact that much of Russia has limited access to safe drinking water, results in many tourists asking for water, and unexpectedly get vodka.

Doc
11-22-2009, 08:17 PM
...results in many tourists asking for water, and unexpectedly get vodka.


3842 & 3843

I'm sorry, but I don't see the problem. :confused: ;)

deepsand
11-22-2009, 08:28 PM
3844

Problem?

Hm-mm. :?

A thorough examination of my post fails to find that word present; did you perhaps confuse mine with another? ;)

deepsand
11-22-2009, 08:54 PM
3844

Problem?

Hm-mm. :?

A thorough examination of my post fails to find that word present; did you perhaps confuse mine with another? ;)

Doc
11-22-2009, 09:42 PM
3844

Problem?

Hm-mm. :?

A thorough examination of my post fails to find that word present; did you perhaps confuse mine with another? ;)

3845

Well, then...

we agree! :cool:

deepsand
11-22-2009, 10:23 PM
3847

Absolutly. :D

Uncle Dog
11-23-2009, 02:14 AM
3848 - I see the Great Trans European Vodkaduct has reared its ugly head again. I seem to remember? embarking on an my Epic Trans Atlantic Whisky Delivery the last time it was mentioned.

Doc
11-23-2009, 10:04 AM
3848 - I see the Great Trans European Vodkaduct has reared its ugly head again. I seem to remember? embarking on an my Epic Trans Atlantic Whisky Delivery the last time it was mentioned.


Embarking is about ALL you did. Epic? Uhuh!
What we need is a Trans Oceanic Whiskyduct!:rolleyes:

deepsand
11-23-2009, 01:54 PM
3850

epic

Etymology: Latin epicus, from Greek epikos, from epos word, speech

Tales of Brave Uncle Dog = All speech, no action = epos = epic. ;)

TrafficProducer
11-23-2009, 02:17 PM
3801 roll-on 4,000 then 5,000

deepsand
11-23-2009, 03:58 PM
3852


3801 roll-on 4,000 then 5,000
Not if you keep going 50 steps backwards at a time! :(

Uncle Dog
11-23-2009, 05:32 PM
3853 - Epic? Epicure is more appropriate.

deepsand
11-23-2009, 05:43 PM
3854

Perhaps; but, until Doc & I have had the opportunity to sample the goods, we've only your word for that. Which, it must be observed, has not been noted for its reliability.

Uncle Dog
11-23-2009, 05:58 PM
3855 ...but I'm the only real person on this forum!

Doc
11-23-2009, 06:00 PM
3855 ...but I'm the only real person on this forum!

3856

Based upon what criteria, my fine Highland friend? :confused:

Please... tell me it's not your avatar! :cool:

Uncle Dog
11-23-2009, 06:08 PM
3857 - Well... I'm sitting here in my little office with a wee dram and you're on the internet.

deepsand
11-23-2009, 07:31 PM
3858

Proof, please.

A case of excellent Scotch will suffice for such.

Uncle Dog
11-23-2009, 07:46 PM
3859 - I haven't got any gunpowder!

deepsand
11-23-2009, 08:36 PM
3860

That's a novel excuse.

Uncle Dog
11-23-2009, 08:44 PM
3861 I thought you wanted proof!

deepsand
11-23-2009, 08:51 PM
3862

Yes, proof; not "poof."

Uncle Dog
11-23-2009, 09:05 PM
3863 - ...but the gunpowder still burnt. I never promised you a bang!

deepsand
11-23-2009, 09:13 PM
3864

What gunpowder? That which you didn't have?

Dubbya
11-26-2009, 09:45 AM
3865 - Mornin' boys!

Doc
11-26-2009, 10:45 AM
3866

Mornin', Sunshine!

Happy Thanksgiving!

mjtaylor
11-26-2009, 11:04 AM
I love seeing this thread bumped .. it reminds me of ctabuk, whom I miss MUCH.

Uncle Dog
11-26-2009, 02:30 PM
3867 & 3868

No time for idle chatter. These numbers won't count themselves you know!

Doc
11-26-2009, 02:46 PM
3867 & 3868

No time for idle chatter. These numbers won't count themselves you know!

3869

Actually....

if we had someone amongst us that was poficient in coding...;)

deepsand
11-26-2009, 07:18 PM
3870

Whadda ya want; quality or quantity?

Doc
11-26-2009, 11:09 PM
3871

For my part, I'd prefer both! ;)

Something like today's TG meal.... a hell of a lot of really good food!

I can barely move my mousewheel, without the seams in my britches protesting. :shock:

deepsand
11-27-2009, 12:18 AM
3872

A rather bad CFS day, spent mostly in bed.

Aching fingers here protest.

davidthompson
11-27-2009, 02:08 PM
.........................3873..................... ......
:D:o:):(:confused::rolleyes::cool::eek::|:oops:

deepsand
11-27-2009, 02:53 PM
3874

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa12/sharewhat2/Emoticons/devil-smiley-020.gif

Doc
11-27-2009, 03:29 PM
3875
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e127/dcamp2626/error20messagetd9-1.gif

deepsand
11-27-2009, 05:00 PM
3876

One of my all-time favorites; got me briefly booted off of Military.com .

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa12/sharewhat2/Emoticons/FP0005071-1.gif

Uncle Dog
11-29-2009, 05:18 AM
3877 - Ouch#! ****~ Take that you fiend!

deepsand
11-29-2009, 10:27 AM
3878

Good morning, Dog. How's life in the bogs today?

deepsand
11-29-2009, 02:36 PM
3879

Now accepting applicants to do volunteer work on my lawn, shrubs, trees, etal..

No special skills required.

Payment-in-kind (cigarettes, coffee & Scotch) commensurate with work completed and/or entertainment value provided.

Bonus paid to those who bring their own chainsaw, ladder and/or flamethrower.

Doc
11-29-2009, 02:56 PM
3879

Now accepting applicants to do volunteer work on my lawn, shrubs, trees, etal..

No special skills required.

Payment-in-kind (cigarettes, coffee & Scotch) commensurate with work completed and/or entertainment value provided.

Bonus paid to those who bring their own chainsaw, ladder and/or flamethrower.

3880

What's your stance on low altitude napalm passes? :twisted:

deepsand
11-29-2009, 03:45 PM
3881

Well, the neighbors might ...

On 2nd thought, what have they done for me lately? :(

Whadya have in mind? A4s, A6s, or a mixed sortie? :D

Doc
11-29-2009, 03:47 PM
3882

I've always been partial to the Intruder!

Who ever said pigs can't fly! ;)

Uncle Dog
11-29-2009, 04:00 PM
3883 -
Who ever said pigs can't fly!

I think you'll find that was me! I own the domain an' everything... so hands off!

Doc
11-29-2009, 04:10 PM
3884

Sorry, mate, but I'm afraid your memory is failing you.

YOUR site is http://pigscanfly.com (http://pigscanfly.com/)

An understandable mistake, given that you live on the downhill end of the Trans-Europe Vodkaduct.

Uncle Dog
11-29-2009, 04:29 PM
3885 - Thanks Doc. I always get them two mixed up. It's the "Scan Fly", not the "Scant Fly".

deepsand
11-29-2009, 04:39 PM
3886


I've always been partial to the Intruder!

Who ever said pigs can't fly! ;)
And I, for birds of the period, a special fondness for the Phantom II; however, for this mission, I must allow that the A-4 outshines the F-4.

So, a mixed sortie it is. You'll fly the Intruder; I, the Skyhawk.

Uncle Dog
11-29-2009, 05:06 PM
3887 - ... and I'll bring my canoe.

Doc
11-29-2009, 05:25 PM
3888

It's a date! ;)

However, I'd like to move the mission briefing up a couple of hours.
I need a few rounds at the O Club, as part of my "pre-flight".

Oh, God! How I miss the smell of napalm in the morning! :twisted:

Uncle Dog
11-29-2009, 05:28 PM
3889 - Way ahead of you Doc.

Doc
11-29-2009, 05:50 PM
3890

Not fair, U-Dog! The sun's already over the yardarm over there!

Yeah, I know....

So????:rolleyes:

SuperMan
11-29-2009, 11:54 PM
3891 - join in on the fun

Dubbya
11-30-2009, 09:15 AM
3892 - Ah, napalm... Is there any problem that it can't solve?

greggasket
11-30-2009, 09:31 AM
3893 new guy here.

Doc
11-30-2009, 12:07 PM
3892 - Ah, napalm... Is there any problem that it can't solve?

3894

Well, it certainly will make your VCR stop blinking that annoying 12:00...12:00...12:00! :p

Uncle Dog
11-30-2009, 03:05 PM
3895 - Think youself lucky! Mine never does a smiley.

deepsand
11-30-2009, 04:18 PM
3896

I'm still waiting for 88:88 to arrive, so that we can get on with the mission briefing for Operation Hat Trick.

deepsand
11-30-2009, 04:24 PM
3897

From U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence - Iran's Naval Forces: From Guerrilla Warfare to a Modern Naval Strategy (http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/oni/iran-navy.pdf)

Warning : Large (6.15 MB) PDF file

artagnan1978
12-01-2009, 09:06 AM
3898 - Hello everyone

Hope you all have a great day

Doc
12-01-2009, 10:15 AM
3899

You too, artagnan. ;)

Uncle Dog
12-01-2009, 06:18 PM
3900 - I have nothing to declare.

deepsand
12-01-2009, 06:53 PM
3901

Humans, the other white meat.

FoundByDesign
12-02-2009, 02:59 PM
3902

Can't believe I actually added to this! LOL

Uncle Dog
12-02-2009, 04:35 PM
3903 - Many hands...

deepsand
12-02-2009, 06:10 PM
3904


Can't believe I actually added to this! LOL
It's a thankless task, ...

deepsand
12-02-2009, 07:44 PM
3905

SECRECY NEWS
from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy
Volume 2009, Issue No. 94
November 30, 2009

STORIES OF JIHAD FROM U.S. INTELLIGENCE

"The only ones who are spending the money and time translating Jihad literature are the Western intelligence services," wrote Islamic radical Anwar al-Awlaki, "and too bad, they would not be willing to share it with you." ("Born in U.S., a Radical Cleric Inspires Terror" (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/19/us/19awlaki.html) by Scott Shane, New York Times, November 19).

In fact, a growing number of websites (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jY_2-CPTTSABOyexptWD2kgTmIfgD9C2T3HG0) offer jihadist literature and sermons in English. But it is true that U.S. intelligence maintains a prolific translation activity focused on Islamic extremist literature, and that most of the resulting translations are not intended for public distribution.

The DNI Open Source Center recently translated an Indonesian anthology of four short stories about aspiring young jihadists entitled "Wind From Paradise" (pdf). The stories describe how their protagonists came to take part in jihadist campaigns in Afghanistan, Thailand, and Chechnya, and the ensuing "martyrdom" that they or their fellows found there.

It is not a particularly rewarding collection, on any level-- esthetic, theological or political. But the narrators and their stories have several characteristic features that may be worth pointing out.

Remarkably, their primary conflicts seem to be those of adolescence. Their Islam is not concerned with the divine will as much as it is with themselves and their own unruly passions. ("I drowned all my feelings by reading the Koran slowly," one says. "So a feeling of happiness and relief runs through my whole body," writes another. "I also have the feeling that the guilt that has plagued me all this time has now been uprooted.")

But above all, the stories portray jihad as an appropriate, even noble response to external oppression by the non-Muslim world. ("The mujahidin had to fight against the Christian United States, which wanted to control and dominate Afghanistan." The Western enemy mercilessly abuses prisoners, "but no matter how cruelly they interrogated and tortured him, [he] kept quiet.")

The logic of jihad is predicated on the victimization of Muslims by infidel forces, the stories repeatedly insist. ("So now he was defending his Muslim brothers who had been so cruelly oppressed.") The oppression of Muslims by other Muslims is beyond the narrators' ken. So is the possibility of confronting oppression by non-violent political means, except perhaps through the propagation of stories like these.

The translated stories have not been approved for public release. Rather improbably, their "authorized use is for national security purposes of the United States Government only." But a copy was obtained by Secrecy News. See "Indonesia: Translation of Jihadist Book 'Wind From Paradise'," (http://www.fas.org/irp/world/indonesia/wind.pdf) Open Source Center, 1 March 2009.

_______________________
Steven Aftergood
Project on Government Secrecy
Federation of American Scientists
web: FAS Project on Government Secrecy (http://www.fas.org/sgp/index.html)

jabo
12-02-2009, 08:47 PM
3906

what are y'all up to this Christmas?

deepsand
12-02-2009, 09:29 PM
3907

We're waiting for the invitations to your party! :D

genie.liam
12-02-2009, 09:50 PM
3908

OK DONE!
Who's next?

deepsand
12-02-2009, 10:07 PM
3909

Done? I asked for mine rare! :(

jabo
12-02-2009, 10:54 PM
3910

beer party after some trick or treats... o wait, that was last month... errr, yah guys, I think we can be popular if we form a group and sing carols or something...

what cha think?

Doc
12-03-2009, 12:17 AM
3911

Just remember...


If you're singing Christmas songs on your neighbor's lawn at night with your church group, it's called "caroling."

But if you're doing it alone, in the afternoon, with no pants on, it's called "drunk and disorderly."

I KNOW! :cool:

jabo
12-03-2009, 12:21 AM
3912

lol... in our place, the group of people who carols are given some money by the house they just visited... whether they serenaded the house or were just being a disturbance... I wonder how much Doc will give us

Doc
12-03-2009, 12:45 AM
3912

lol... in our place, the group of people who carols are given some money by the house they just visited... whether they serenaded the house or were just being a disturbance... I wonder how much Doc will give us


3913

I'm afraid you misunderstood, Jabo, my friend.

I am the caroler, regardless of what the judge may think.

As as the caroler, I will be collecting either cash, whiskey, or wenches.

Your choice! ;)

deepsand
12-03-2009, 03:00 PM
3914

Is Carol good looking? Or, should we bring a paper bag? ;)

Uncle Dog
12-03-2009, 04:51 PM
3915 - You wear what you like, DS!

deepsand
12-03-2009, 07:01 PM
3916

:cool:

Plain brown paper bags are free at the local supermarket. :D

deepsand
12-04-2009, 08:31 PM
3917

SECRECY NEWS
from the FAS Project on Government Secrecy
Volume 2009, Issue No. 95
December 2, 2009

MILITARY COMMISSIONS VS. CRIMINAL TRIALS

Many of the procedural safeguards that are provided to a defendant in a criminal trial are not available to those tried in military commissions, or are present in attenuated or modified form. Thus, for example, military commissions offer no right to a speedy trial and may allow hearsay into evidence.

These and numerous other distinctions between the two judicial frameworks were helpfully tabulated in a new report from the Congressional Research Service. See "Comparison of Rights in Military Commission Trials and Trials in Federal Criminal Court," (http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40932.pdf) November 19, 2009. Related information on the rights of detainees in a criminal prosecution was discussed in "Closing the Guantanamo Detention Center: Legal Issues," (http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40139.pdf) updated November 17, 2009.

______________________________
Steven Aftergood
Project on Government Secrecy
Federation of American Scientists
web: FAS Project on Government Secrecy (http://www.fas.org/sgp/index.html)

Doc
12-04-2009, 10:11 PM
3918

I managed to escape courtmartial during my military career (albeit narrowly). I was counseled once to request CM, but opted for NJP. As it turned out, I walked away scott-free, as I should have, because my captain knew me. In a CM, I would most likely have been convicted, by circumstantial evidence.

At the core of things, the military process really bears little resemblance to its civilian counterpart. If they so desire, they can refuse you the right to be present, and can censor your witness list. In some instances, there is no appeal, and if all else fails, they can always invoke good, ole UCMJ Article 134.

deepsand
12-04-2009, 10:29 PM
3919

From various experiences I can say, without fear of contradiction, that, in practice, our system of Criminal Law has no lack for warts, in either number or size, to rival those of Military Law. :(

Outlaws of the world, unite! :D

edhan
12-04-2009, 10:31 PM
3920

Busy working on consulation and getting ready to celebrate Christmas with a nice turkey dinner.

deepsand
12-04-2009, 10:33 PM
3921

Is turkey a common food stock in Singapore?

edhan
12-04-2009, 10:59 PM
3922

Not really. Mostly can be seen when approaching Christmas. But some of the big supermarts cater them in some months.

deepsand
12-04-2009, 11:49 PM
3923

While usage of whole turkeys here also follows seasonal patterns, they generally remain widely available throughout the year. Additionally, individual parts, as well a ground turkey, are widely marketed on a year-round basis.

artagnan1978
12-05-2009, 12:12 AM
3924

it was my turn to post :)

Doc
12-05-2009, 01:58 AM
3925

I find that the majority of the "ham" in the markets these days, is made from turkey. So too, are many hot dogs.

And you're hard pressed to even FIND honest-to-God CHEESE. It's all processed "cheese food"!

Uncle Dog
12-05-2009, 06:16 AM
3926 - Saw a snippet on TV recently where they found supermarket own-brand "cheese slices" which contained 8% cheese!

deepsand
12-05-2009, 03:58 PM
3927

As much as 8%? :shock:

Quick; grab it before others do. :D

Uncle Dog
12-06-2009, 08:07 AM
3928 - I'm using it to waterproof my Submanoe.

deepsand
12-06-2009, 07:27 PM
3929

Isn't that what marmite's for?

Doc
12-06-2009, 07:54 PM
3930

Doesn't look like there's much room for the scotch!

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/PopularScience/3-1947/diving_canoe.jpg

deepsand
12-06-2009, 09:51 PM
3931

Just flood the ballast tanks with Scotch, and don't surface.

Problem solved! :D

Tubby
12-07-2009, 12:05 AM
You can sing naked on any lawn in my neighborhood. . You will not get arrested.

(I guarantee it)

(The weather is quite good for it, very warm, very little shrinkage)

Doc
12-07-2009, 01:00 AM
You can sing naked on any lawn in my neighborhood. . You will not get arrested.

(I guarantee it)

(The weather is quite good for it, very warm, very little shrinkage)

3933

A mighty kind gesture, Tubby, and I make no promise not to take you up on it. I hope your neighbors, scarce though they might be, share your sentiments.

As I recall from a rowdy evening in Sidney, many years ago, Aussies aren't nearly as uptight about naked drunks, as the Yanks tend to be. :D

TrafficProducer
12-07-2009, 03:03 AM
3934... will it be 4,000 by 2010?

Or are we sinking fast, glug, glug, glug where's my sub when you need it LOL

Doc
12-07-2009, 11:51 AM
3935

I wouldn't worry about hitting 4,000 before Christmas, TP. We can do that, standing on our pointy little heads. ;)

Uncle Dog
12-07-2009, 11:52 AM
3936 - I'm standing on your pointy little head.

SuperMan
12-07-2009, 01:54 PM
3937 - why is this game popular?

Doc
12-07-2009, 02:08 PM
3937 - why is this game popular?

3938

It is now less a game, and more of a tribute, SuperMan. David Castle, a recently departed member of the board, started it, and we're just keeping it moving out of regard for him.

Uncle Dog
12-07-2009, 04:30 PM
3939 - SuperMan! Your powers are of no significance within the walls of "The Castle Breakroom"

Doc
12-07-2009, 08:04 PM
Uncle Dog, I think I have a solution to your dilemma.

Since you don't seem to be able to get your submanoe across the Atlantic, and since you have that handy little vodkaduct right through your garden...

How about siphoning off a couple cases of this and forwarding it by parcel post?
http://www.polmos.szczecin.pl/images/starka/starka_30_00.gif

While I would prefer Bruichladdich, I can get by with a few bottles of 30 year old Starka. ;)

deepsand
12-07-2009, 08:20 PM
3940 & 3941

I think you'll find that, for shipments > 5 lbs., FedEx will be less costly than Parcel Post.

And, the charge/lb. decreases as the weight increases. :D

Doc
12-07-2009, 09:21 PM
3940 & 3941

I think you'll find that, for shipments > 5 lbs., FedEx will be less costly than Parcel Post.

And, the charge/lb. decreases as the weight increases. :D

3942

I keep forgetting the post number. Fortunately, someone is covering for me. Spasiba, DS!

So, U-Dog... all the more reason to ship as much as you possibly can. I have a forklift, so 55 gallon drums are not a problem for me, although I'll miss the gift boxes and accompanying glasses that normally ship with the 30 year Starka.

Perhaps you could ship a few of those, separately. :p

deepsand
12-07-2009, 09:53 PM
3943

Well, considering that you and others cover for me as well, ...

Do you think we need remind UD to either use non-metallic drums, or metallic ones with appropriate liners?

Doc
12-07-2009, 10:16 PM
3943

Well, considering that you and others cover for me as well, ...

Do you think we need remind UD to either use non-metallic drums, or metallic ones with appropriate liners?
3944

Well, considering that he left the last time, without sufficient provisions, would indicate that planning isn't his forte. ;)

Better safe than sorry. :cool:

Doc
12-07-2009, 10:19 PM
3945

Now that I think about it, given the effort and expense of such a venture, it seems a shame not to go ahead and transport the best available product. I think we should upgrade to the 50 year old, what do you think?

Polmos Szczecin (http://www.polmos.szczecin.pl/index_en.html)

deepsand
12-07-2009, 10:42 PM
3946


Well, considering that he left the last time, without sufficient provisions, would indicate that planning isn't his forte.
That was my thought as well. I was hoping the mere raising of the question might suffice as reminder.


Now that I think about it, given the effort and expense of such a venture, it seems a shame not to go ahead and transport the best available product. I think we should upgrade to the 50 year old, what do you think?

Polmos Szczecin (http://www.polmos.szczecin.pl/index_en.html)
Absolutely, considering that we'll be lucky if he it gets it right just one time.

Uncle Dog
12-08-2009, 05:24 AM
3947 - Hello? Hello? Can you hear me? There's a strange buzzing noise on my end.

Doc
12-08-2009, 11:42 AM
3948

You see, DS?

He's buzzed. :? Now we'll be seeing nought. :cry:

deepsand
12-08-2009, 01:14 PM
3949

No doubt his ears are infested with water bugs; nothing that a good drying out couldn't cure.

Still, while he might dry out, we'll not soon be seeing any of the desired wet goods. :(

artagnan1978
12-08-2009, 01:57 PM
3950 - Hello everyone... my first post today here, at the forum!

deepsand
12-08-2009, 02:10 PM
3951

A virgin post; don't see too many of those. :wink:

Uncle Dog
12-08-2009, 05:03 PM
3952 - We got loads.

dharrison
12-09-2009, 07:40 AM
3953 - Uncle Dog that image is making my eyes go funny :shock:

Dubbya
12-09-2009, 10:08 AM
3954 - s'okay Deb, juss puddown the bottle... s'prolly time to sober up and go ta wrk newayz.

deepsand
12-09-2009, 10:54 AM
3955


We got loads.
Of excuses for not yet having delivered the wet goods, most definitely.

Uncle Dog
12-09-2009, 03:44 PM
3956 - No. Loads of virgin posts. Shame we ran out of virgins.

Doc
12-09-2009, 03:47 PM
3956 - No. Loads of virgin posts. Shame we ran out of virgins.

3957

Not exactly a self-renewing resource. ;)

Uncle Dog
12-09-2009, 03:52 PM
3958 - Not in our lifetimes.

deepsand
12-09-2009, 04:32 PM
3959


Not exactly a self-renewing resource. ;)
:confused:

You mean that it really is the stork?

Doc
12-09-2009, 05:55 PM
3959


:confused:

You mean that it really is the stork?

3960

Well, duh!

Who could make up a story like that?;)

Uncle Dog
12-09-2009, 05:56 PM
3961 - Good evening chaps.

Doc
12-09-2009, 06:54 PM
3962

Howdy, U-Dog! How's life on the right side of the pond?

Uncle Dog
12-09-2009, 07:46 PM
3963 Wet and muddy.

Doc
12-09-2009, 08:34 PM
3963 Wet and muddy.

3964

Same as here, then! :(

Doc
12-10-2009, 02:13 AM
3965

What ever happened to all the factoring we used to do?

On that note....

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/blownapart_color.jpg

3965 = 5 x 13 x 61 ;)

edhan
12-10-2009, 07:05 AM
3966

Moving ahead of time ...

deepsand
12-10-2009, 11:22 AM
3967

Ahead of time?

Ah, so you're the one who borrowed the Way Back Machine and hasn't returned it. :(

Uncle Dog
12-10-2009, 12:47 PM
3968 - No, edhan IS the Way Back Machine.

deepsand
12-10-2009, 12:49 PM
3969

New Army Field Manual - "Grenades and Pyrotechnic Signals" (http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-23-30.pdf) (large PDF)

Uncle Dog
12-10-2009, 12:52 PM
3970 - Stop daydreaming boy and get some work done.

deepsand
12-10-2009, 12:52 PM
11 x 19 x 19 = 3971

Be All That You Can Be - In Space!

"Marine Corps Space Policy," Marine Corps Order 5400.53, September 28, 2009 (http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/usmc/mco5400_53.pdf)

Uncle Dog
12-10-2009, 12:53 PM
3972 - Now you've gone and counted all wrong - guess we'll just have to start all over again. 1.

deepsand
12-10-2009, 12:57 PM
29 x 137 = 3973

Mis-counted? Where's the proof?

Uncle Dog
12-10-2009, 03:47 PM
3974 - I must have imagined it!

deepsand
12-10-2009, 05:18 PM
3975

A fertile imagination is a sad thing to loose.

edhan
12-10-2009, 08:08 PM
3976

No ... it's not back in time or future but JIT (Just in time theory) ...

deepsand
12-10-2009, 08:28 PM
41 x 97 = 3977

I'm generally fashionably late. 8)

edhan
12-10-2009, 09:07 PM
3978

Practise makes perfect ... You don't try, you will not succeed ... Don't give up!
:)

deepsand
12-10-2009, 09:11 PM
23 x 173 = 3979

But, I generally prefer being fashionably late, as very few others are ever on time, and I dislike having my time wasted!

edhan
12-10-2009, 09:20 PM
3980

Reminds me of attending wedding, most people think that everyone will be late so they turned out late. Time has changed now as everyone comes early to finish early.

deepsand
12-10-2009, 10:01 PM
3981

No doubt such varies with the event type, the local customs, the demographics of the attendees, etal..

edhan
12-11-2009, 07:04 AM
3982

Life is so unpredictable so making the best out of it daily.

deepsand
12-11-2009, 03:22 PM
3983

A bad CFS day; too tired to play.

Doc
12-11-2009, 03:51 PM
3980

Reminds me of attending wedding, most people think that everyone will be late so they turned out late. Time has changed now as everyone comes early to finish early.

3984


This is a problem I deal with a lot in Mexico. It seems that NOBODY has any notion of punctuality, or the common courtesy that drives it.

We entertain several times per year, and invariably, although I might say, "starts at 5pm, dinner will be served promptly at 6:30", there are still SEVERAL people that habitually show up 1-1/2 to 2 hours after dinner, and yet still expect to eat!

This Thanksgiving, we nearly overcame that... everyone showed up at the same time - over an hour late!

So I served them cold food. I'm not going to burn it or dry it out, simply because of their rudeness!

deepsand
12-11-2009, 03:59 PM
3985

For the record, for such functions I do not deem being so late to be fashionable.

There's a great difference between group activities and those which are not; serving a meal, as opposed to an ongoing series of quickly prepared & served portions, certainly qualifies as being the former.

Uncle Dog
12-11-2009, 06:16 PM
3986 - Evening everyone. Traffic was dreadful, my dog ate my laptop and I couldn't find my shoes. Miss anything?

edhan
12-11-2009, 07:55 PM
3987

Raining season over here in Singapore, need some good sunshine to bright the days ...

Doc
12-11-2009, 08:11 PM
3988

Raining here too, Ed. 'Tis that time of year, but I'll sure be glad when summer returns!

deepsand
12-11-2009, 08:15 PM
3999


... my dog ate my laptop ...
Is this the same dog that eat your canoe?


... I couldn't find my shoes. Miss anything?
Look inside the dog.


Traffic was dreadful ...
Shouldn't be too difficult to get a dog that eats canoes and laptops to take a bite out of traffic.

weegillis
12-13-2009, 05:56 PM
4000. What the hey?
3990

deepsand
12-13-2009, 06:22 PM
13 x 307 = 3991

Hey is for horses.

Uncle Dog
12-13-2009, 07:20 PM
3992 - He does that a lot.

Doc
12-13-2009, 07:25 PM
3993

3 * 11 * 11 * 11

Heya, U-Dog! How's the Submanoe repair coming along?

Uncle Dog
12-13-2009, 07:29 PM
3994 - Worked really well... then I got hungry.

What are your plans for "drunk'n'disorderly" this year?

Doc
12-13-2009, 07:54 PM
3994 - Worked really well... then I got hungry.

What are your plans for "drunk'n'disorderly" this year?

3995

Nothing specific.

But odds are, it'll involve sirens and police dogs.

Not necessarily in that order.

Uncle Dog
12-13-2009, 07:59 PM
3996 - A quiet night in then?

Doc
12-13-2009, 08:04 PM
3996 - A quiet night in then?

3997

As quiet as it gets, mate. ;)

deepsand
12-13-2009, 11:49 PM
3998

Quiet, cold & rainy, still. :(

TrafficProducer
12-14-2009, 04:26 AM
3999 someone add a !

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sjr4x4
12-14-2009, 07:01 AM
Huzzah 4000!

Deepsand tells me Uncle Dog is having canoe problems with the Single Malt, so being English, you could send to me via Pony and trap, I could make sure it is of the required quality, purely for health and safety reasons...