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stevewaganer
05-22-2007, 06:49 AM
Can changing the Title of the website give benefit or Can harm to our existing ranking...........

SemAdvance
05-22-2007, 07:11 AM
Odd question given your two sig links but the answer in reality is both.

If you currently rank for

blue plastic widgets

and change the title to

plastic widgets

then you will lose rankings for the top term but then you can gain rankings for the term underneath which would drive probably more traffic.

SurfYourName
05-22-2007, 07:27 AM
I agree its an odd question with those types of signatures. SemAdvance is correct. Is the current title tags not performing or you just don’t like the titles anymore?

Erik Bledsoe
www.SurfYourName.com

stevewaganer
05-22-2007, 08:04 AM
Actually you guys get misuderstood i am saying that if we change the title of the page of our site i mean order of preference the title will be same but the order of keyword we change then can it affect my site rankings or i can do it ...

For Example if i have SEO as my 1 st keyword in title and SEM is 2nd
And then i do SEO 2nd and make other SEM 1st . So will it help to ranking the site as search engine will firstly see SEO.

So this thing i want to confirm.....

ctabuk
05-22-2007, 09:10 AM
Seems a strange question to be asking when you have things like this on the web pages

'We manipulate the entire way search engines see and receive your site to award page rank and search engine rankings'.

Also Multiple postings of identicle threads are considered by this mod as a little bit 'naughty'

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=339380

mandar-seo
05-22-2007, 09:30 AM
May be that is naughty act but let me answer it. Changing order does not make any change but nobody knows how many keywords search engines look for. May be Google looking first four and MSN looking first five. So if you have six keywords in your site and you shifting their order then unknowingly you are pulling them out of your favourite search engines crawl view. Probably then you will also loose good SERPs for previously ranking keywords. If you can afford to do that it's your choice.

With regards,
Mandar Thosar

wige
05-22-2007, 01:21 PM
To expand a bit on this, could reordering the terms affect phrase searches? I have played around with title tags on my site both to ensure the keyword would be there but also in an order that the searcher is likely to have used. Google highlights or bolds phrase matches, so this could potentially help the page stand out more, especially if you are not the number one page for the search term.

In other words, if I search for blue widgets, the first result title might be "widgets - blue", and the second result might be "we sell blue widgets" but because Google highlights the exact match, my eye will probably go to the number two result first.

incrediblehelp
05-22-2007, 02:04 PM
I personally feel order of words/phrases is very important in the title, so yes it can effect your rankings.

Ne0
05-23-2007, 02:21 PM
Title tags are one thing... what anchor text have you gone after in your link building strategy? I'd line those up ;)

Also... it is always somewhat amusing to see (SEO Experts) asking questions that as an expert you should already know the answer to ;)

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rumblepup
05-23-2007, 02:24 PM
I find order somewhat important. What your trying to affect should be first.

stevewaganer
05-24-2007, 02:10 AM
For your important suggestions.........that help me a lot..

weslinda
05-24-2007, 10:39 AM
I'd start by checking your on page text. I don't think the reputable companies use those tricks. Might want to re-word that.


We are a “White Hat” company. In search engine optimization, optimizers don different types of hats. There are the reputable ones, the ones who use illegal practice employing various underhand tricks which can even get a site banned and there are also the ones who use perfectly legal methods to optimize a site. Imagine your company being banned from Google. Once you are banned it is very hard to climb up again. We do everything legally to ensure that your site is easily available as well as accessible to customers who are searching for your products and services.

Regarding your request, of course order matters. If you are trying to optimize for a local type search.

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Zhoog
05-24-2007, 09:58 PM
In the first place the keyword order should make sense to a human reader. Search engines should always come second... But if it will make sense either way, word order can absolutely affect SERP positioning.

I don't believe your example of switching SEO and SEM changes a lot as both are abreviations and chances are it would be 50-50 for people searching on either "SEM SEO" or "SEO SEM".

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05-30-2007, 06:47 AM
its good but anyone have any other option to make fast and easy to get or change the name of title then send......





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Dubbya
05-30-2007, 03:57 PM
To answer your question, word order becomes increasingly important and the search results become more specific with each word you add to the targeted search phrase.

Look at it from a logical reader's point of view and build your titles according to the order of the search words that a person might enter to find your site.

If I'm looking for "Fresh Red Tomato Juice", I'm not going to use a less relevant or less natural sounding search phrase such as "Fresh Juice Red Tomato".

In the same vein, if I'm looking for information about a specific brand of tomato juice, I'm not going to use a generic search phrase, I'll try to be as specific as possible and include the brand in my search query.

"Clamato Tomato Juice" should get me exactly what I want.

Do this search yourself in any search engine and pay close attention to the URL, page title and file name of the top 5 results.

Experiment with your targeted search phrases and see where your competitors turn up, then change the word order and check again. Again, pay attention to the page title, file name and URLs in the top 5 search results.

kauzy
06-08-2007, 02:11 AM
changing titles boost my rankings. ive a ecards site. When christmas is near, i change titles to "Free Christmas Ecards, Greetings, Christmas Cards" from my generic title of "Free ecards online" so, during christmas, i get good traffic on christmas. :)

idansh
06-08-2007, 06:12 AM
I disagree and thnk that search engines comes first

weslinda
06-17-2007, 09:14 PM
What? Are you saying you should design and write titles for seach engines and not users?

incrediblehelp
06-18-2007, 03:59 PM
What? Are you saying you should design and write titles for seach engines and not users?

Write for users, while not ignoring the basic facts of optimal SE title creation. Most all major SE's treat titles in similar fashion.

Webnauts
06-18-2007, 05:36 PM
Also... it is always somewhat amusing to see (SEO Experts) asking questions that as an expert you should already know the answer to ;)
Well said Ne0. But didn't you know already that everyone today is a SEO Expert? :lol:

By the way, the order in the title is important. No doubt about that. Talking from experience.

Besides, didn't you know that SEO experts use the keyphrase "Search Engine" 4 times in the title tag? :)

Keywords/phrases repetition and stuffing in the title tag, seems to be very advanced SEO. :)

I am gone. :)