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hs4u
01-30-2007, 11:51 PM
A friend has had an advertising balloon site for years. It has not been indexed in any search engine that we can find. He has compared his site with others in the industry and finds his has more content, tags, keywords, most are done with frontpage like his, some don't have meta tags or even text! Yet these others come up in the engines within the top 20 all over for most keywords.

Another competitor has just informed him that a third competitor has written a program for search engines that exclude other competitors from showing up in any search engine. This competitor 2 has also been dropped from his top 20 space in the last couple of months and the competitor has more pages indexed now.

Has anyone heard of this happening? Can someone write a program excluding other people's URLs? If so, how do we fight back?

Thanks for great info here and all the great people who contribute. Your knowledge is invaluable!!

Terry

SemAdvance
01-31-2007, 05:33 PM
Do a search for advertising balloons and you will see competition from more than one site so your friend is mistaken.

However I know the gentleman in Arizona who has a corner on the SERPs for those terms and he is crafty.

One of the main areas that prevent webmasters from faring well in organic SEO, is robots indexing and your friends site may have some issues revolving around this issue.

timmathews.com
01-31-2007, 05:45 PM
Yes, I invented the program to get my competitors out of the serp's.
I can sell it to you... Interested?

Dinghus
01-31-2007, 05:53 PM
Yes. It is called a browser hijacker.

timmathews.com
01-31-2007, 05:59 PM
That would be cheesy. That would only work on people's machines that are "infected" with the bho... I am talking about a proper program.

hhheng
02-01-2007, 09:33 AM
Yes, I invented the program to get my competitors out of the serp's.
I can sell it to you... Interested?
Will you be afraid your competitors use your program to drop you out of the SERPs also?

hs4u
02-01-2007, 11:01 AM
It sounds like the concensus is it is not possible, right?

The competitor 2 has dropped from ranks for all but a couple words now. They were on first page 2 weeks ago for most keywords.

I have been after my friend to get the frontpage mess cleaned up. That looks to be our next step.

Thanks for info.

texxs
02-03-2007, 02:46 PM
There is a program that does it, but there is a particular despicable method that is easy enough to do. You just have to be a willing to lie. Not a problem for most capitalists.

I'm not going to mention how it works here, or teach anyone how to do it ever, but the point is that is a very easy methods and is done by unhscrupulous businessmen all the time. the search engines don't care, they just want to sell ads and know that if your site doesn't display in the their results you'll probably by advertising, so they don't really want you properly indexed.

why don't you give us your url so we can see if it a simple issue that's keeping you out of the SE's?

As far as getting in the results the number 1 thing of importance to the SE's is what pages link to your site, Number 2 is how many links, number 3 is how they feel about your site personally (I'm not kidding here, although 99% of the time this isn't a factor as they don't usually have an opinion, but sometimes they do). None of the other usual SEO stuff counts for much (but it does count).

timmathews.com
06-30-2007, 10:29 AM
Yes, I invented the program to get my competitors out of the serp's.
I can sell it to you... Interested?

Just in case anyone actually read that and thought I was serious, I wasn't.

incrediblehelp
07-03-2007, 05:56 PM
He has compared his site with others in the industry and finds his has more content, tags, keywords, most are done with frontpage like his, some don't have meta tags or even text!

Terry it seems your friends website doesn't have more of what the other guys have. How about backlinks which is pretty much the most important thing when it comes to rankings?