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jmiller
04-27-2006, 12:45 PM
Telecommunications giants scored a victory over Net Neutrality advocates in the U.S. legislature yesterday as the proposed "Markey Amendment," a provision to prevent Internet providers from creating access chokepoints was voted down in the House of Representatives.

The amendment's defeat has caused a firestorm of accusations against the telecom industry and the legislators siding with them in the debate. A diverse and growing opposition believes that Congress members like Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) and Rep. Bobby Rush (D-ILL), who pushed for the amendment's defeat, are acting not in favor of their constituency but in favor of the big-money telecom industry.

Telecoms, like AT&T and Verizon, want to create a two-tiered Internet where customers and content providers can be charged for premium content delivery at higher speeds and quality than other content. The harshest critics believe that ability will give ISPs the ability to block, slow, or degrade content unfavorable to them, including access to websites and email.

The Markey Amendment, proposed for addition to the Communications Opportunity, Promotion and Enhancement Act (COPE), was created to protect what proponents call "Network Neutrality," a philosophy that the Internet should remain free and open to encourage innovation, startup business, and free speech. Called the "Internet's First Amendment," this concept is supported by Internet and technology giants like Google and Microsoft.

The amendment expressly warned the telecom industry " not to block, impair, degrade, discriminate against, or interfere with the ability of any person to use a broadband connection to access, use, send, receive, or offer lawful content, applications, or services over the Internet." It was voted down by a vote of 34-22 in the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

The COPE Act will now move to the full House for a vote, and then to the Senate if passed. The Senate Commerce Committee is expected to propose its own Net Neutrality legislation in the coming weeks.

“The House vote today ignores a groundswell of popular support for Internet freedom,” said Ben Scott, policy director of Free Press. “We hope that the full House will resist the big telecom companies and reject the bill. But we look to the Senate to restore meaningful protections for net neutrality and ensure that the Internet remains open to unlimited economic innovation, civic involvement and free speech.”

Free Press recently spearheaded a campaign through the website SaveTheInternet.com (http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/), a nonpartisan initiative that attracted over 250,000 petition signatures and over 500 weblog authors in just a few days. While the initiative is not apolitical, it is diverse along party lines with membership ranging from libertarian Gun Owners of America, to the Consumers Union, to MoveOn.org.

SaveTheInternet.com doesn't view it as a total loss, however. The attention the coalition has generated seems to have made a large impact on the voting. Before the initiative launched, Net Neutrality provisions were shot down 23-8 in the Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet.

"The telcos have spent hundreds of millions of dollars and many years lobbying for their position; we launched four days ago, and have closed a lot of ground," reads the website.

“The Commerce Committee is headed in the opposite direction of where the American public wants to go,” said Columbia Law Professor Timothy Wu, a pro-market advocate and one of the intellectual architects of the Net Neutrality principle. “Most people favor an open and neutral Internet and don’t want Internet gatekeepers taxing and tollboothing innovation.”

Barton and Rush Under Scrutiny

Congressmen Barton and Rush have been put under the microscope by opponents lately for their financial relationships with the telecommunications industry. Both vocal opponents of Net Neutrality provisions in the Commerce Committee, Barton and Rush led the charge in defeating the Markey Amendment.

Many find it no small coincidence that out of Barton's top three campaign contributors (http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.asp?CID=N00005656&cycle=2004), the second and third largest ones are SBC Communications (now AT&T) and Comcast Corporation. Tied for 12th among contributions is the National Cable & Telecommunications Association.

The Chicago Sun-Times (http://chicagosuntimes.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi?getReferrer=http://chicagosuntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-sweet25.html) points out that Bobby Rush, the only Democrat to sponsor the bill, recently "received a $1 million grant from the charitable arm of SBC/AT&T" for a community organization Rush is associated with called the Rebirth of Englewood Community Development Corporation.

To see which committee members voted against the Markey Amendment click here (http://savetheinternet.com/=map).

bj
04-27-2006, 09:08 PM
It's already been blogged by me (http://kickasswebdesign.com/wordpress/2006/04/save-the-internet/) and I really hope everyone follows suit. Only by making a LOT of noise and writing your representatives can we get this idiocy stopped. The ONLY benefit in this legislation is to the Telecoms who provide broadband. Every other user, whether site viewer, or site owner, will suffer if it's passed.

decklin
04-28-2006, 09:35 AM
I am disgusted by the current trends in the telecom industry as a whole ... while I am based in the West Coast and have had reasonable service with DSL there over an eight year period, I had my eyes opened helping a friend get on-line with DSL in Pennsylvania. The amount of commercial crap and invasion of privacy in respect of the applications that a user is expected to blindly load on their PC nowadays is unbelievable.

My old SBC experience ( where full information about the modem and router was provided without forcing any 'required applications' ) was not repeated here.

The net remaining neutral is our only protection against the arrogance of these corporations who are quite happy to offer a service - and then try to install modifications to our PCs web browsers that will basically filter our access to the web, filter and re-direct our searches, have the capability of reporting our web usage etc etc.

In this case on running the required Verizon CD - it modified our browser settings, tried to force either Yahoo or MSN modified browsers on us, loaded a large 20MB help application which actually overwrote our email settings and meddled in other ways. Selection of alternate Outlook Express identities was affected and only worked normally once the so-called help routine was both uninstalled by Add/Remove programs and then cleaned up by a registry utility.

IE has still got Verizon tweaks we havent been able to get rid of yet.

drawe
04-28-2006, 10:30 AM
Is there such a thing as OS Internet? Something to consider...
Starting to sound like the way China operates. They want a modern internet but, clamp down on what is said over the chats and the like.

Dave

PumaSpirit
04-28-2006, 12:47 PM
Hi folks,

I think this is so very important, concerning all of us who have an internet connection, I am posting the whole kitt'n kaboodle:

Let's not waste time complaining, let's DO something about it, while we can!

The free and open Internet is under seige--can you sign this petition letting your member of Congress know you support preserving Network Neutrality?

1) this is the site:
http://www.civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet

2) this is why:
http://civic.moveon.org/alerts/savetheinternet.html

3) this is how you can help:

Your comments will be delivered to members of Congress.

Please take a moment to invite your friends, colleagues, clients and everyone you know to sign this petition. Protecting Network Neutrality affects nearly everyone--online activists, Google users, Ipod listeners, work-at-home parents, small businesses, economic innovators, and others.

You can just forward the sample letter below.

Spreading the word is critical, but please only pass this message along to those who know you -- spam hurts our campaign.

Thanks for all you do. --The MoveOn.org Civic Action Team

Here's a sample message to send to your friends:

Anyone up to posting this on their websites, with the appropriate links? We Need to get the word out NOW!

Post or send this letter to your friends and mailing lists:

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Subject: Congress is selling out the Internet

Hi,

Do you buy books online, use Google, or download to an Ipod? These activities will be hurt if Congress passes a radical law that gives giant corporations more control over the Internet.

Internet providers like AT&T and Verizon are lobbying Congress hard to gut Network Neutrality, the Internet's First Amendment. Net Neutrality prevents AT&T from choosing which websites open most easily for you based on which site pays AT&T more. Amazon.com doesn't have to outbid Barnes & Noble for the right to work more properly on your computer.

Politicians don't think we are paying attention to this issue. Many of them take campaign checks from big telecom companies and are on the verge of selling out to people like AT&T's CEO, who openly says, "The internet can't be free."

The free and open Internet is under seige--can you sign this petition letting your member of Congress know you support preserving Network Neutrality? Click here:

http://www.civic.moveon.org/save_the_internet

A list of all the ways you might be affected by Net Neutrality is located on the bottom of this link: http://civic.moveon.org/alerts/savetheinternet.html

Thanks!

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Let's not forget... boycotts also have power. Therefore I say... BOYCOTT every company involved in legally "bribing" our legislators. Hurt them where it hurts the most. AND, let them know about it! Inundate them with letters, telling them just WHY they don't get your business anymore.

If they lose bundles, even before they get going, they may just figure, the loss is too great in comparison with what they might gain.

I am probably dreaming here... but hey, it might work if they lose a big chunck of their existing customers and revenue to this scheme before they even get started on this nightmare.

Hope is not worth a damn, if we wont fight for what we hope for!

DrTandem1
04-28-2006, 05:59 PM
I think you guys are confused by the liberal spin. Here's my take:

http://www.drtandem.com/Web-Site-Design-Topic.htm

This wasn't a victory for the telecom giants as much as it was a victory for the average user.

A. Smith
04-29-2006, 01:33 AM
What really kills me is that we (we as in our leaders :P) are spending a lot of time, energy, and MY money (yours too, if you paid your taxes) for stupid things like that! I mean, there are so many other issues where we could really make a difference if only all those resources were used to solve those problems. Ah, but I forget, hungry babies don't vote...:((

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DrTandem1
04-29-2006, 09:53 AM
If you want to see a real waste of time and money, watch the news on May 1st, the traditional communist holiday.

richkoi
04-30-2006, 03:05 PM
Here is my libertarian point of view. I wrote this awhile back when I heard about this the first time.

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I want to bring to light an issue that looks good on the surface but is ultimately not fair to businesses. Net neutrality is an issue that has been brought to our government. Net neutrality is a proposal for the government to disallow ISPs to limit access to the Internet. It sounds good on the surface but let me tell you why this libertarian thinks it is wrong.

Currently ISPs can limit your access to certain sites on the Internet. They have the ability to do this and allegedly are already using these limits to steer their users away from sites that compete with their services. One example is VoIP. Verizon runs its own VoIP system and also provides internet access. If they wanted to they could block or slow down your Internet service to other VoIP providers on the net.

I do have a problem with ISPs doing this; however I have a bigger problem with "libertarian" run organizations like SaveTheInternet.com promoting government regulation of ISPs. Net Neutrality is not the answer to stopping ISPs from limiting users’ Internet access. Consumers are the answer to this. If ISPs are found to be practicing limiting or blocking techniques, it is up to the consumer to complain.

What really irks me about this issue is that a libertarian is pushing it. Libertarians are about limited government and free business. This goes against the principals of the libertarian party and I think it is wrong for this group to claim to be libertarian.

If you hear anything about Net Neutrality I want you to understand that it really means government regulation. If you want to do something against the ISPs who do block or limit service to certain websites, I suggest you voice your opinion to your ISP and/or switch ISPs. I hope that this thinly veiled attempt to limit business freedom does not pass unchallenged. I hope other libertarians are smart enough to see through this deception of business freedom.

If you let the government regulate ISPs, it just sets a precedent for them to regulate ISPs in other ways. Just remember, our government started the FCC. Once they get their hands into ISP regulation they will not stop at "fair business practice" regulation.

The consumers are the ones that should ALWAYS hold the power over the internet. Never the government, for ANY reason.

jmiller
05-01-2006, 09:28 AM
not to get bogged down in the dogma of libertarian philosophy, but...the party is typically one I side with. Libertarians are split on this issue b/c it has to do with keeping the principles of free business and less gov't interference while at the philosophical heart it is about inherent liberty among the populace...there are two masters here and libertarians have to pick one, thus the points of contention.

At the basis of the philosophy: government is a necessary evil and should be limited in its suppression of liberty. It's primary responsibility is to protect the people it represents, which often necessitates some regulation.

No net neutrality (IMHO) only benefits the telcoms...and by ways of lobbying, the government to an extent. But the people's choice (b/c of monopolistic practices) are supplanted by business maneuverings, and their liberty is thereby assaulted. Libertarians who are more in line with the "power to the people" are suddenly at odds with fellow libertarians who are more in line with dogmatic principles. But no mistake here, liberty is at stake either way, it's the libertarian's job to decide whose liberty is in danger most -- the bottleneck creating corporation, or the citizenry it peddles to.

And if you think that completely free business offers choice among the consumers, I have to ask you, how much are you paying for gas right now? And what choice of energy was presented you from the gov't? A discerning libertarian will recognize that neither the gov't nor the corporation is looking out for the citizen...which was the point in the first place.

Just my two-cent philosophy.

Chris
05-01-2006, 12:04 PM
I think you guys are confused by the liberal spin. Here's my take:

http://www.drtandem.com/Web-Site-Design-Topic.htm

This wasn't a victory for the telecom giants as much as it was a victory for the average user.

i think you missed everything that went on, judging by your convoluted argument. and yet, through it all, you maintain a liberal spin attack, which is ridiculous.

net neutrality should not be reduced to a petty political discussion. picking and choosing what content providers to give benefits to (a form of discrimination) and then charging extra for this preferential treatment is not anyway to run a world-wide web. how is it that countries like United Kingdom, South Korea, and Japan have solved this simple concept but in the US, the subject degrades into a silly political discussion and then nothing gets done?

jmiller
05-01-2006, 12:17 PM
this is a political issue in the States, but it's not a partisan one. To label it as liberal, libertarian, conservative, Republican is inaccurate. the savetheinternet.com coalition is joined by liberals, conservatives, and libertarians alike. Gun Owners of America has joined hands with MoveOn.org.

"Cats and dogs living to together, mass hysteria!"

The Net Neutrality Amendment's two chief apponents were one democrat (who received a million dollar donation to his charity by ATT) and one republican (whose 2 largest contributors are telcoms).

This is a people issue. And people on all sides are teaming up against too much corporate influence.

airpr23
05-25-2006, 08:39 PM
There are alot of things that we could waste our money on. But I think that this is an important issue.