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tertius
09-03-2003, 02:21 AM
When I'm searching for information, especially client, business, or development-related research, I'm on a mission--I want to get in and out of a site as quick as possible (usually non-billable time) so I can quickly gather and compile my research. Whatever slows me down on a site is taking money out of my pocket.

I'm curious what kinds of code you have seen that slows you down on a site or has no direct contribution to the site mission, and what coding "gems" annoy you the most!

mpnev
09-03-2003, 02:26 AM
They all annoy me... so I didn't vote - they all annoy me to no end!!! hehe =)

Sualdam
09-03-2003, 03:25 AM
My vote went for 'other'.

I HATE sites which are thrown up on a search engine with a synopsis exactly matching what you typed in, only to find you get a page full of advertisements (commercial or otherwise), no sign of any site content even approaching what you were after or, worse, the knowledge that you could spend an age trying to find it.

(mpnev: so what IS acceptable to you then? Is it all right if someone uses some content ;-) (joking)?)

wenwilder
09-03-2003, 06:19 AM
They all annoy me....

I'm with mpnev. I vote for an "Alllll of the above" option!

The information highway was formed to help physicists pass information between each other, it's now become entertainment central. There are site's that use these code's creatively and actually do a fairly decent job, but I sometimes wonder if they shouldn't come with warning labels. ;)

wenwilder
09-03-2003, 06:27 AM
They all annoy me....

I'm with mpnev. I vote for an "Alllll of the above" option!

The information highway was formed to help physicists pass information between each other, it's now become entertainment central. There are site's that use these code's creatively and actually do a fairly decent job, but I sometimes wonder if they shouldn't come with warning labels. ;)

harlow
09-04-2003, 12:48 PM
I feel if pop-ups are used correctly; they are one of the least annoying things out there.

Obviously I'm not a fan of add pop-ups, but for photo galleries, or a little bit of info that you don't necessarily want to leave the page to get...pop-ups serve a great purpose.

Moondancer
09-04-2003, 12:57 PM
I can't vote.. I hate them all equally.

Digital Mattsiah
09-04-2003, 01:02 PM
The internet was created so that physists to exchange information with eachother? Like what? Porn?
All these things are going annoying to some degree. But, all of these things, when done tastefully and with sound design judgement (i.e. it means something to the gestalt of the site) can make your information getting experience less dull. Just not all at once...
If all you're seeking is information, get Neilson to make your site (boring robot). Obviously that kind of stale usability design isn't the kind of image that all companies want to convey. If it were, what a boring, boring place the internet would be.

Smarties
09-04-2003, 01:07 PM
OK, you don't see flash intros that much these days but websites using 100% flash design can slows you down big time with thousands of effects and loading times.

I can understand why hummer has a flash web site, they don't need to have a good ranking, everybody knows them. But for smaller business it makes no sens tu use 100% flash design.

Personally, I don't like to see a businesses using 100% flash design because it distract me and makes me forget somtimes why I am on this website.

So my point is, if you want to do a nice artistic website, go for flash, I have the biggest respect for designer using that technology. But if you plan to promote your business online, send a strong message or make money online, then forget it!

Thank you for your time

dmcgill
09-04-2003, 01:13 PM
Pages you can't get out of. I accept sites for our two websites and so open thousands of websites every day. When I get one that I can't hit the back button on my browser to close, that site is gone. That really bugs me. Also, porn sites that have innocent names, trying to submit to us that open up a whole bunch of pages in your browser. What are they trying to do? Do they think that the more inappropriate stuff I see the more likely I am going to buy a membership?? Not likely. I think that is nothing more than invasion of my privacy and dangerous to the young people out there who may not know what to do with those pages.
dmcgill

jhilgeman
09-04-2003, 01:14 PM
I would say that for about 60-70% of the sites that I happen to visit, everything in-between <html> and </html> is useless.

I wouldn't vote for animations, since most of those aren't really code. Although I do find lots of Flash animation to be rather annoying.

Mouse trails: I've seen a few mouse trails that are kind of fun, but most are annoying.

Rotating background colors: Depends on usage. I don't see this a whole lot - some people try to use them artfully, but it's often just too much.

Page Enter/Exit Transitions: I would vote this the 2nd most annoying thing on the Internet, since I've never seen any site use these in any useful way, and they just take forever unless you hit the ESC key to skip them (thank God).

The absolute -MOST- annoying thing that I've ever happened upon in the Internet is... <drumroll>

SITES AND ADS THAT JUST WON'T GO AWAY!!! I see about one of these per day - either an ad that pops up that you can't close without using Alt+F4, or a site with a refresh/redirect that makes it nearly impossible to leave the site via normal usage of the Back button. Oh, that just burns me up.

- Jonathan

Dean Guilberry
09-04-2003, 01:15 PM
I hate when you go to a page and there is sappy music and NO WAY TO STOP IT. This results in my IMMEDIATE return to the search engine to find another site that doesn't suck!

barblu
09-04-2003, 01:15 PM
I just don't like being *surprised* when I go to a site - Like when I enter, the "Star Wars" theme blares and there are flashing lights all over the page hiding what I came to find. I don't NEED blinking, flashing, rotating or any of the other bits of designer "magic" to help me - I CAN read!!! I'll usually leave a page immediately if any or all of the above greets me - I figure it doesn't have the information I'm looking for.

Markll
09-04-2003, 01:24 PM
Don't hate the code hate the people that use the code.

Pop-ups, mouse trails, etc... don't ruin the internet, people that use them ruin the internet.

On the same note. Next time you get an unsolicited email. Don't contact the email marketer(usually a third party hire to market a product), go to the site they are promoting and let them know that you will not deal with a propegator of the problem.

Food for thought. You get this pop-up that contains a window with the contents of your C drive displayed.
One of the biggest culprits is Evidence Eliminater.
This is a trick to make you think someone is also looking at what you are seeing. Not so, what you see in your browser window is a command that has been initiated locally on your system. Check the code.

Why buy these evidence cleaners. If I were a government investegator, my obvious first targets would be people who bought one of these products and obviously have something to hide.

End of rant.

http://localshoppernetwork.com
http://theshorelinshopper.com

awcoatl
09-04-2003, 01:24 PM
I agree with many of the above reference annoying web-gimmicks. However, I must admit to using one of them quite liberally on our web page; Rollovers. I think a little flash (lower case "f") for the visitor with a high speed connection is a good thing. A text rollover saves space and IMO, looks crisp and professional.

On our page, when the potential customer mouses over a picture of one of our watches, the pic goes to a 60% transparent and provides price and brand info. over it. Please see for yourself and let me know what y'all think -- www.antiquewatchco.com/html/american.html --

Now, all that being said, I did not do any of this on the front page, and offer 2 different directions for the visitor to go in order to view our inventory, based on their connection speed. The dial-up page consists of small single images and text written under each image.

The gimmick that makes me the maddest... mouse trails.

rascalpants
09-04-2003, 01:38 PM
If these techniques/code are used in the right way, then they add a lot to a web site. But most are used poorly, so people end up hating them anyway...

I plan to use everone of them in my next project!

just kidding :)

rascalpants
New Media Designer

http://www.rascalpants.com
http://www.kcnewmedia.com

Ron
09-04-2003, 02:07 PM
Mouse trails. To me, they are totally useless on eCommerce sites, especially when they're 'disguised' to convey the URL of the site, to the visitor.

lgtaylor
09-04-2003, 02:33 PM
It has to be pop-ups! I cannot believe there aren't more votes for this annoying and pointless code. Of course, I refer to incessant ad pop-ups. If the advertiser ticks me off, what are his chances of making a sale? Nada! I especially hate the ones that take over my browsing, and then try to sell me a pop-up stopper! Isn't that kind of like the underground crime guys, who keep ripping off a store until the owner pays protection money?!

I don't know - it's diabolical.

Linda G. Taylor, GVA
411 Design Street

tconey
09-04-2003, 02:41 PM
An ad that floats around the page, eventually settling in front of the information you're seeking and there is no (easily discernable?) way to get rid of it. I have only run across them on sites originating in the Far East, thank goodness they haven't caught on in the West!

Fly-In Ads are my #2. And anything else that makes me have to click closed to be rid of something I didn't ask for.

I don't mind rollover buttons...but mouse trails run me out of a site quickly. Just stupid....

The 'code' I hate worst of all is these dummies who think repeating the same phrase or keywords at the bottom of the page 1000 times helps them in their search engine rankings - and sometimes does!!!

Tim Coney

cyberious
09-04-2003, 02:44 PM
I love venting. So, hope I can post more than 1-

Most annoying pointless and RUDE:

Pop-ups that KEEP popping up! One after the other.
Hidden Pop-ups that barely appear very low on the desktop
Blinking ads - especially those really FAST ones!
Mouse trails - any and ALL

I don't think this is in the same category, but I have to say it:

AUTOMATIC DOWNLOADS to MY computer without MY permission when visiting a link!!!!! This is the WORST and most important on my list....

Thanks!

HockeySTYX
09-04-2003, 02:45 PM
I'd have to say that my biggest design peeve are sites that set themselves as your "homepage" automatically.

I don't go into these designer's homes and rearrange their closets and cabinets- so why do they think it's ok to change someone's homepage for them? Rrrrrr!

:)

deamothul
09-04-2003, 02:48 PM
hiya,

I really hate mouseFollowers, popups and all that bs.
I dont hate an effect that is triggered by the mouse that is coded good, takes no power away and does not mess with what im doing( so no following). those things get my respect.

I love some things being a user xperience, but it must not be a showcase of what the programmer can do.a site has to load quickly

I must say that i really really hate, static dull badly colored messy only html sites.
Those slow me down ten times more than any flash site. more often i have to reboot cause my pc crashes by em.

i think that means that u dont want to take the time to study the cool wayz nowadayz of how info can be brought to the world.

But i gotta say this is a very delicate line, and u must be sure u dont programm your own taste, but keep the overall user experience in mind.

U can say "i like data mining" , so i dont want annything but a bs colored page stuffed up with links and txt and such.
But then i say i that can be done in cool wayz.

I saw some bad remarks about flash, i really really dont get it why people nag about flash so much , cause it is abused so often? html is abused many times more, just as a lot of othters.
IT IS THE PROGRAMMER that makes it bad , whatever u wanna use.

to make things short the thing that makes me slow down , are messy , badly colored , full of BS links and txt and advertisement, mostly free hosted sites.
i hate em.

Sualdam
09-04-2003, 02:51 PM
I hate when you go to a page and there is sappy music and NO WAY TO STOP IT. This results in my IMMEDIATE return to the search engine to find another site that doesn't suck!
I'd forgotten about those! It's home-made music too, isn't it? Stuff that someone composed on a Casio keyboard in their front room.

Sualdam
09-04-2003, 02:53 PM
Ahem!

http://www.maxpages.com/crazy4ever

http://www.mewspage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

http://members.tripod.com/~ajsfireman/midi/fire/midifire2.html

(I assume it's OK to do this - they're listed on the web)

Any more?

Croco Dylan
09-04-2003, 03:08 PM
I plan to use everone of them in my next project!


Can't wait. Let us know when it's online?

Seriously, all new techniques, techonology or tricks can all have great advantages for specific purposes. Also with pop-ups, redirects, flash and whatever more. If used with restraint each and everyone of the examples in the poll can be of great added value to a website. All depends on what the site's goals are.

Over-use is the big annoying factor. 'Specially where guys who do this spoil it for the rest of us (developers/webmasters). For instance, if popups weren't so overly used by SHOUTERS (spam, ads, etcetera), people wouldn't have (the need for) popup killers. No popupkillers means I could (fully) use popups the way I'd like to.

It's a small group of shouters who spoil it for the rest of us. 't Was this way with keyword spamming some years ago and now it's popups. What's next?

mrcoburn
09-04-2003, 03:29 PM
Without question, the most annoying element on the web, to me, is poor spelling and bad grammar. If you want to ban something from the web make it illiteracy.

Sualdam
09-04-2003, 03:34 PM
I've argued that on other forums before - and got accused of censorship, opposing free-speech, you name it.

But I agree 100%.

Dean Guilberry
09-04-2003, 04:09 PM
Without question, the most annoying element on the web, to me, is poor spelling and bad grammar. If you want to ban something from the web make it illiteracy.

How about bad grammar, poor spelling and such on a pop up window with a mouse trail pointer of a clock with the wrong time, covering up the other misspelled words on the background with colors that clash with the foreground text color!
What a nice site that would be!

redcircle
09-04-2003, 04:37 PM
Without question, the most annoying element on the web, to me, is poor spelling and bad grammar. If you want to ban something from the web make it illiteracy.

The internet itself has made poor spelling and bad grammar more widespread. One of the main forms of communication among college kids and business 2 business are chat programs.

I myself have fallen victim of this. It is much easier to type "ur" than "you are". the people on the other end know what you are talking about that's all that matters. I have noticed myself making those kinds of corrections in my documents at work. It's what I am used to doing so it fallows me everywhere.

tenaki
09-04-2003, 04:39 PM
http://members.tripod.com/~ajsfireman/midi/fire/midifire2.html

I just loved that one, what a site (:




On our page, when the potential customer mouses over a picture of one of our watches, the pic goes to a 60% transparent

I think this is a good use of mouse over though

I think pop ups are the big no go, bad colour and text is the tops for me. Funny, that 1st URL fits everything I hate.

www.ROMELO.com
09-04-2003, 04:45 PM
Huge Flash Intros are very annoying especially the ones that doesn't have a skip button or link. They will make you wait for minutes only to find out that the information you want is not there. That burns me up.

I try not to shorten what I type while chatting because it could be misunderstood but most kids today seems to understand every freaking shorthand terms in chat. It's like a new language was born out of it.

redcircle
09-04-2003, 04:46 PM
Something that I find very annoying on websites are mystery meat. aka buttons that only display what their true purpose is when you move the mouse over them.

Reece
09-04-2003, 07:06 PM
I won't claim to have never committed any of the mentioned offenses, some things have a purpose, not all sites we do are e-business, and sometimes, you just can't convince a client otherwise.

Forced full screen sites.....make me NUTS!
I encounter very nice, small designed sites that for some reason demand a full screen for the 500x300 site. The page transitions also make me cringe.

As for "grammar" and misspellings, I keep in mind that the other side is human. As I listen to the newscaster put the em-FA-sis on the wrong sill-A-bull, I realize that the cultural impact on our speech carries over to what we type and post ... And typos happen...some of us learned when we got online, and still look at our fingers. That’s what the backspace key is for :-)

valk97_goose
09-04-2003, 07:42 PM
Well I hate those bloody sites that won't let you leave (so much so that I often sned them some feedback). Why do they do that?

Bruce

minstrel
09-04-2003, 07:56 PM
The internet was created so that physists to exchange information with each other? Like what? Porn?

Physicists viewing porn? Is that possible?


If all you're seeking is information, get Neilson to make your site (boring robot). Obviously that kind of stale usability design isn't the kind of image that all companies want to convey. If it were, what a boring, boring place the internet would be.

I think the point is (1) if your site is trying to supply information, do it as efficiently and quickly as possible... if I want information about the specifications of a lawnmower or CD player, I don't need glitz and I'll be annoyed if the glitz makes me wait more than about 15-30 seconds for the page to load; and (2) if you want customers to return to a web site, try not to do things that annoy them.

jhilgeman
09-04-2003, 09:43 PM
Ooh ooh, I got one more annoying thing that I'm starting to see more and more:

SOMESMALLSITE REGISTRATION FORM
-------------------------------
User Name:
Password:

http://www.sitecreative.com/tmp/crazyreg.jpg

Please complete the shown math problem (in black), append the answer to the word in red, and prepend the faint green word, and write the result here:


It's insane. I know people are trying to keep bots from making lots of accounts, so I can see the usefulness for a free web hosting company, but it's become a trend for EVERYONE. Now EVERYONE has these annoying, generated-image schemes on their registration forms.

What's worse is that people are now trying to make them HARD for the bots to "crack", so there are lines going everywhere, making it hard for you to read, too! Registering has become an obstacle course. I don't think these people have an understanding of how un-intelligent these bots can be or how hard it is to program a simple OCR bot in the first place.

Talk about stupid bandwagons - I swear...

- Jonathan

Rhys
09-04-2003, 09:46 PM
Pop up ads have to be the worst. On a slow connection like mine they keep on opening windows and slowing things down to zero. I got so annoyed I switched from Internet Explorer to Opera where I can simply shut them off.

slimboy
09-04-2003, 09:55 PM
Of all the annoying things that I have found on the net it's the floating windows that you can't close and which follow you as you scroll down the page blocking the information you actually went there to get.

An annoying little example of this can be found at http://www.ivillage.com/diet/. Of course, it's annoying so you may not want to go there to see it. ;) (but like smelling milk after someone has said "it's gone off" you'll probably head there anyways - I probably would too)

Carrie1111
09-04-2003, 10:06 PM
Of all the annoying things that I have found on the net it's the floating windows that you can't close and which follow you as you scroll down the page blocking the information you actually went there to get.

An annoying little example of this can be found at http://www.ivillage.com/diet/. Of course, it's annoying so you may not want to go there to see it. ;) (but like smelling milk after someone has said "it's gone off" you'll probably head there anyways - I probably would too)

So... of course.. I had to go try it.. just to see, and it worked perfectly for me. I'm using Netscape 6, and everything stayed in it's proper place, and looked quite interesting.. actually.

Carrie1111
09-04-2003, 10:10 PM
Oh.. yes.. I just had to post my vote. I live in Rural Canada, with no access to cable, T1.. nothing except satellite if I'm prepared to pay over $700/yr for service, and I'm not.. lol so I use a 56 K modem which rarely connects at anything faster than 28,8

FLASH definitely is my pet peeve, along with HUGE websites that seem to freeze my computers mind until enough graphics have downloaded to finally allow me to click the X button and get the heck outta Dodge! I don't stick around to find out if they have the information I'm after... it's just not worth it, and I'll find the information elsewhere.

Carrie

zbatia
09-04-2003, 10:58 PM
There is almost nothing to add to smarties' opinion.
I personally don't like the plain-text web sites (even Yahoo). I like Netscape's interface much more. Why? Because the web site must be attractive in addition to everything we want to have there.

The attractiveness is achieved with a combination of all named above features. One note: they must be used PROPERLY in order to add the value to the web page but not to distract web surfers.

I also want to add to the list the following: I really don't like the huge lengthy text with yellow highlighted backgrounds, big colored font, etc. It's the case when people don't really know how to make a point.
You usually can find their point in the very end of the text, on the bottom of the page where they want to sell something. I can’t imagine someone is reading all that text…

mikmik
09-05-2003, 12:02 AM
Must be gif's and flash that loops till I'm loopy, but having to watch an intro for 10 or 20 seconds and then getting "Click to enter" ...YIKES!

mistasix
09-05-2003, 04:03 AM
pop up windows. that's all I have to say on the subject. i for one apeal for calm on the internet, invading someone's space with a relentless attack of windows filled with wrong material is a bad way to market yourself to anyone and yet half the industry swear by it. You people, and you know who you are, should be very ashamed.

kidsfreesoul
09-05-2003, 04:27 AM
I agree with Dylan....
Seriously, all new techniques, techonology or tricks can all have great advantages for specific purposes. Also with pop-ups, redirects, flash and whatever more. If used with restraint each and everyone of the examples in the poll can be of great added value to a website. All depends on what the site's goals are.

It's great exploring, experimenting new techniques - Maybe irritating but if the site isn't ecom or not specific for purpose and making for pleasure or hobby, its worth trying out new ways on net. Sometimes pop ups lead to good links but for flash, yeah if connexion is slow, its tedious surfing the site. Animations are gr8 if download is fast.I didnt vote becoz I've tried some of these ways as I self learnt making homepages and websites.

-Blossomsmile ilaxi
Edited my mod Webnauts. Links to you web site may only be in your signature.

bradle01
09-05-2003, 09:55 AM
Hi

Yes, pop-ups definitely, so I have installed History Kill and have blocked over 4000 pop-ups since I launched it. Fantastic!

But my biggest gripe is when you do open a new window you want (which with HK you do by pressing the CTRL button while clicking the hyperlink), and you get a new window that is missing one or more of the following:

1. Status bar
2. Navigation buttons
3. Address bar
4. Scroll bar
5. _ []X buttons
6. A window frame entirely

Even my bank does it. It's irritating and totally infuriating. Is there any way I can force all windows to open up with my defaults, and override the defaults that the website sets?

Also can I interrupt redirects and allow me to decide whether I want them?

bradle01
09-05-2003, 10:25 AM
BTW

What is cross-scripting?

Sualdam
09-05-2003, 11:43 AM
[quote=mrcoburn]I myself have fallen victim of this. It is much easier to type "ur" than "you are".
People know what you're talking about when you swear, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't be pulled up for it.

Using things like 'ur' and '4' stem from not knowing/laziness in the first place, and so lead to worse things later.

Try and pick someone up for bad spelling and you'll end up labelled worse than Hitler.

official
09-05-2003, 01:50 PM
THOSE POP UP WINDOWS THAT SCROLL ONTO THE PAGE
and cover a good part of the page content.

I keep wondering; why would anyone build a site and then include a code that makes a pop up ad appear and cover the site content immediately you open the site? I will be amazed if those pop ups ever please any browser or bring any customer.

gypsy1964
09-05-2003, 05:26 PM
I believe the worst is those ads that blink at you like a bad strobe light, especially the ones that send a target up and down, telling you to shoot it. Do they really think I'm that stupid? I will try to play the game of hitting the target, sometimes not even knowing what kind of site it might be? NOT!!!
I also hate pop-ups enough that I downloaded AKiller to deal with them. They "explode" when they pop-up.
I agree that ANY program that does not ask me first should NEVER be downloaded on my system. Luckily, I have Spybot for that. To me, that is the same thing as loading a Trojan, worm, or virus.
And, yes, I consider any email I did not specifically ask to be delivered to me to be SPAM. I will NEVER buy from these companies. I have Spambuster to filter my mail. It comes with a little feature that allows you to bash a "can of spam" with a big mallet over and over if you want.
Yeah, the music and excessive animaition suck, but many times you can stop that by hitting the Stop button. If not, I can mute it if it's important. Usually I just leave.
Mostly web page designers need to think about the fact that people want to get to the object of their search as quickly as possible, not have to wait for long page loads. There are still many people, like me, that only have dial-up. (Yeah, I know, but I live in a rural area that does not offer anything else. We only have ONE local dial-up number for the whole area. The peace and quiet of the woods and river on my place is worth it, though.) Sometimes pages will not load at all, just get stuck, sometimes lock up my machine forcing me to "End Task." Then what is all that extra code doing for you?

Webworks7
09-06-2003, 07:11 PM
If you want to see something annoying, visit http://www.half.com and try to use the search box towards the top of the page (just under the orange bar).

Searching is always the first thing I do when I visit Half.com, and now they have this stupid pop-up ad that obscures the input box. Would this be referred to as a pop-over? Grrrrr.

support1
09-08-2003, 09:15 AM
My pet peeve is flashing graphics. When I am trying to read or concentrate on important, technical information, it often becomes very difficult to do so with a flashing graphic. Oftentimes, if possible, I will just go to another site or area for information, rather than having to deal with this.

I believe that many people "turn off" when they encounter this type of annoyance. If the advertisers want to keep more people, stop "flashing" us!

gwsoccer14
09-09-2003, 03:00 PM
The worst is pop-under ads that only appear after you exit a web site. What genius thought this would actually please somebody.

esiegel
09-10-2003, 03:43 PM
Pop-ups are definitely annoying...but just remember, it is not always the site that allows them...
Not long ago, I was on MY site (http://www.ampacet.com) when I started getting pop-ups. Turned out there was some adware/spyware on my machine from another site that was pulling pop-ups from wherever I was...so those annoying pop-ups could be from your own machine...not the site.

tertius
09-16-2003, 05:57 PM
Another bit of annoying code I forgot to add to the poll would be framesets code.

Three things I dislike are:
As many browser windows as I usually hold open on my desktop, my system hits a "resources unavailable" limit with fewer sites open in my browser if I happen to be researching information and hit a predominance of framed sites.

Another issue, albeit more philosophical, is that framesets stretch or even break the paradigm of the worldwide web--presenting, displaying, transferring, and indexing page information and not parts of a set of components appearing as a page. Also, since HTML was designed as a SGML markup language subset, incorporating framesets into HTML further weakens the relationship of HTML and SGML (and now, the XML model)....

The last thing I hate is that framesets make it so easy for someone to take my site pages and make it look like my resources are theirs!

It happened to me a few months ago: while checking my search engine rankings,the page right above and below one of my pages were framesets sites using my page as content frame source (and incorporating my hard-earned otimizations into their site with little effort on their part). Both happened to be college undergrads wanting a shortcut to my page's table of information; emails to one got my content removed and replaced with a nice text link to my page, but the other one took a second email to the university webmaster who got the site removed from the university domain space.)

kthulah
09-18-2003, 04:02 PM
It has to be pop-ups! [ ... ] I especially hate the ones that take over my browsing, and then try to sell me a pop-up stopper! [ ... ]

Linda G. Taylor, GVA
411 Design Street

Nobody with Netscape 7.x or IE 4.x needs a pop-up stopper. You can suppress pop-ups in your Netscape preferences, and configure IE to ask you before *any* kind of script loads.

This has made my browsing experience much happier :)

tertius
09-29-2003, 01:40 PM
I came across another annoyance this weekend while visiting a site I frequent--after logging in, they now open all browser windows full screen, and disable all user controls--toolbars, right-click, all scrolling bars, restore down button...! The site uses fixed-font sizes in their CSS, and now I can't reset the window or font size according to my comfort levels!

fridays in the bróg
10-19-2003, 04:30 AM
A couple of days after reading this particular topic (and agreeing with most of the anti posts) I was surfing with my small son and came across this
http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/findingnemo/index2.html
This is a realy good instance of a mouse trail. check it out...

John.

Sualdam
10-19-2003, 02:06 PM
It's also a really good example of Flash usage.

Now all we need is someone to trash both the mouse trail (because ALL mouse trails are bad, you know - something to do with Microsoft, no doubt), and the Flash (because all Flash is bad - also something to do with Microsoft - and it should be text only).

:)

fridays in the bróg
10-19-2003, 04:13 PM
Mmmm... black screen, white text, flashing cursor... kinda reminds me of my old sinclair zx81 or was that the atari 800xl? ;-)

John