Same database for two sites. Is it duplicate content?

[Steven1976a]

If we create two websites with a different look and feel to each site but we pull the content of each site from from the same database is this classed as spam?
The home page would be completely different the colour schemes, layout of the template of the sites would be different but it would be using the same product information from our database

[JuniorOnline]

i dont think it would be..
consider this: amazon sells the same products as other websites.. does that mean other sites are spamming?

my only concern regarding this - are the titles going to be exactly the same? will you be using the same meta tags and title tags and text content for the pages?

mmm.... what do the SEO experts think about this?

[bhartzer]

If we create two websites with a different look and feel to each site but we pull the content of each site from from the same database is this classed as spam?
It depends on how you use that content. When checking for duplicate content, search engines compare one web page to another web page.

So, it's best that you publish a lot of the content on one site and use a part of it on the other site. You might also want to include other content as well, such as an RSS feed or other content that's helpful to your website visitors.

The rule of thumb that I use is that one page needs to be at least 25 percent different than another page.

[incrediblehelp]

Even if you copied it word for word, it wont be "penalized" or considered "spam" so much as one website simply wont show up in the SERP's. I have a hotel client I am working on now. They have their main website and then a few more localized domains, specializing a few states and regions. The first few pages on the localized domain have original content, but when you get down to the individual hotel pages (which also appear word for word on the original website) they don't show up in the SERP's. Why they asked me, lol. Well it is obvious after a few comparison between the two websites and then finding that the localized pages are stuck in the supplemental index.

Rather than trying to "pull" these pages out of the supplemental index it was our decision to create new pages with unique content for each hotel in the localized region, while retaining some of the original copy on the main website. We are also changing the look and feel of the pages to be more independent from the main website.

[Steven1976a]

thanks for the replies. It is only ideas in the pipeline at the moment and the sites will most propably be quite different. Our product ranges at the moment are a variety of different fashion jewelry including, body piercings, fashion necklaces, fashion rings, silver etc......

In the future we may consider launching another site which may not be so much across the board and may only have silver jewelry. Ideally we will not want to have to seperatly enter all the silver products if we can take it from our current database. From what i understand from the replies this will be fine so thanks for your advice
steve

[seoqueen]

Since we're on the dup content subject, how does articles, press release or guides compare to this when the same article is on about 100 different websites. Would that be considered dup content? Just curious.

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[incrediblehelp]

Since we're on the dup content subject, how does articles, press release or guides compare to this when the same article is on about 100 different websites. Would that be considered dup content? Just curious.

sq

Google usually chooses to only show one. However you commonly see the same article within different shell websites appearing in the search engines if you type the exact article title in the search.

[seoqueen]

Thanks for the reply incrediblehelp.

sq

[ADAM Web Design]

The thing with duplicate content is that it tends, IMHO, to get misinterpreted.

The SEs haven't yet developed an algorithm (nor could they, IMHO) to conclusively tell who the original publisher of a particular content item is if said item appears across multiple websites with different IPs.

If I publish an article and that article ends up on X number of websites, none of the SEs will be able to penalize any one particular publisher of the article for duplicating content, since there's no way to prove that it's "mine" or it came from "my site" originally.

For example:

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=DVXA%2CDVXA%3A2005-04%2CDVXA%3Aen&q=%22ikobo+review%22+%22Adam+Senour%22

http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/results.aspx?FORM=TOOLBR&q=%22ikobo+review%22+%22Adam+Senour%22

http://ca.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=slv1-&p=%22ikobo+review%22+%22Adam+Senour%22

The article itself was published originally on my website, under my name. The adamwebdesign.ca domain name itself is under my name (which every article has a byline backlink to). But none of the SEs reflect this in their results for that particular query (which is fine...I didn't expect that).

The results do vary somewhat: under "iKobo review" itself (with or without quotes, it doesn't matter), I'm #1 on all three engines. But under various phrases contained within the article, the ranking can jump all over the place, with various article publication sites outranking my own site itself.

What would make more sense is if a duplicate content filter applied to content of a similar nature on multiple pages from the same site.

I've seen duplicate blogspot.com content posts get indexed, so I'm not going to venture into speculation on the IP block. But if I were you, Steven, I'd either use different hosts or get your existing host to at least give you an IP from a different /16 block.

[incrediblehelp]

Adam,

One way I have seen them tell the diff is the date crawled. Usually the first location that they crawl the article is the one that does the best in the SE's. That is why you should publish your articles on your website for a week or two before syndicating it.

[seoqueen]

Adam, interesting point and makes sense. Incrediblehelp, good strategy. I normally do that with my own articles before syndicating it.

Thanks for the replies.

sq

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