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Serious
11-20-2005, 01:05 PM
I'm on the way to start a new affiliation program. I would welcome your opinion:

1) The payment is based on the number of visitors you bring per month
2) The payment is rounded to the closest inferior integer and 100 visitors are payed $1 (USD)
3) Visitors brought one month are *not* reported to the next month
4) All payments will go via PayPal
5) Play fair (no spam, no flood, ...)
6) To start the program, just insert a link like that:
http://www.milliondollarscreenshot.com/?aff=your_email
where your_email is your email address, modified to avoid spam (replace '.' by '_' and '@' by '_at_')
7) I have the final word to decide how many visitors you brought (I use WebSTAT and Google Analytics)
8) I can stop (or restart) the program at the first day of the month. You will be informed before.
9) I can change the price at the first day of the month. You will be informed before.

Exemple of email:
peter.burner@domain.com -> peter_burner_at_domain_com

Exemple of payment:
Visitors in November
58 -> $0
117 -> $1
264 -> $2

What do you think of this program? How would you improve it? Is it the kind of program you would subscribe?

Thanks, S.

Linda Buquet
11-20-2005, 01:13 PM
I don't understand why anyone would even be interested, sorry.

Serious
11-20-2005, 03:03 PM
I don't understand why anyone would even be interested, sorry.

Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure to understand your answer. IMHO, most webmasters are going to affiliation to make money. Nothing else. So I think some people can be interested because it is quite easy to bring 100 people to my website.

Now, if you're commenting the interest of the website (or for the customers), this is a totaly different topic. Not to be discussed in this thread but I would be pleased to discuss it in another thread.

Serious
11-21-2005, 11:15 AM
I'm a bit surprised there is no comment yet. Why is this offer not attractive?
I'm really interested because I will launch this program very soon. The Million Dollar Screenshot is a self-selling product. Just put a link and many people will click. So please list the reasons why you wouldn't not participate.


I don't understand why anyone would even be interested, sorry.

Could you explain why?
That would help.

Serious
11-22-2005, 04:28 AM
Up.
If you think it is not good, please tell me so and tell me why.

ccera
11-24-2005, 06:17 PM
This would work for someone who has hundreds or thousands of daily visitors. It would be hard for most people to get enough clicks to generate a significant amount of income. Those with sites popular enough to make larger amounts probably don't need this sort of affiliation.
Your examples of $1 or $2 aren't helping you to convince anyone, either. ;)
CiCi

Serious
11-24-2005, 07:42 PM
This would work for someone who has hundreds or thousands of daily visitors. It would be hard for most people to get enough clicks to generate a significant amount of income.
What do you call a significant income in this case? IMHO, it is quite easy to make 100 people a day to click. That would mean 25-35$ a month. I was not only thinking of webmasters but also of people subscribed to a mailing list or participating to a forum. Just changing their signature to include the link.


Those with sites popular enough to make larger amounts probably don't need this sort of affiliation.
Sure. They are already running AdSense and other banners. Instead I'm targeting blogs, forums, mailing lists and community websites.


Your examples of $1 or $2 aren't helping you to convince anyone, either. ;)
Ok. Let's say it differently
"Your site is viewed by an average of 273 visitors a day. Sure 25% will click on the link. 2115 clicks for the month, 21$."
"You are an active member of your online community. Apply the business plan:
1) Set your signature with the link
2) ???
3) Profit!"
What's your opinion?
Regards, S.

Linda Buquet
11-27-2005, 10:59 AM
This still does not make ANY sense to me. What is the product? Where is the value?

What would people even put in the link? "Click here so I make money!" "Donate your clicks here - if I send enough clicks I MIGHT make $25 this month!"

Why would users want to even click? Sorry still do not get it.

Serious
11-28-2005, 03:27 AM
This still does not make ANY sense to me. What is the product? Where is the value?
Product: traffic (one visitor)
Value: one cent (rounded to the inferior hundred)
Rate conversion: 100%
(I understand you're looking at it as a traditional program. This is not. Maybe I may set one later: product: icon ad, price: $100)

What would people even put in the link? "Click here so I make money!" "Donate your clicks here - if I send enough clicks I MIGHT make $25 this month!"
They may put what ever they want but "The Million Dollar Screenshot" works very well.

Why would users want to even click? Sorry still do not get it.
Because of the buzz, because they are curious. When they first encounter such a link, a lot of them will click. In fact, many people are searching for such pages. You should give it a try: you just put the link The Million Dollar Screenshot (http://www.milliondollarscreenshot.com/) in a page for a few hours (enough for 100 users to see it) and you will see by yourself how many people click. You can count the clicks yourself (redirect) or check the stats directly on my site. My estimate is between 5% and 10%, sometimes more depending on the type of website.
Regards, S.

annonymous
11-29-2005, 11:48 PM
Don't worry, you make perfect sense. who knows why she can't grasp what you are talking about

Serious
11-30-2005, 04:40 AM
The program is now ready and will start on December, 1st, midnight. You can read the terms and contiditions
http://www.milliondollarscreenshot.com/affiliate/.
You can already set your links.
I will report later here how successfull this program is.

greg watson
12-06-2005, 09:41 PM
If you think it is not good, please tell me so and tell me why.

Most people are just too polite to say what they think - in part because you appear sincere.

The 100 clicks that you think are worth $1 are really worth closer to $750 ... or more depending upon the subject matter of their site and the nature of their traffic ...

So few people are going to take your $1 offer seriouslly when you really would need to be offering them something closer to the $750 range to be taken seriously ...

But good luck - clearly you have the best of intentions.

Greg

Serious
12-07-2005, 05:21 AM
If you think it is not good, please tell me so and tell me why.Most people are just too polite to say what they think - in part because you appear sincere.
They should. This is the only way I can learn. This is very nice from you that you took the time to post. I have a much better understanding now.

The 100 clicks that you think are worth $1 are really worth closer to $750 ... or more depending upon the subject matter of their site and the nature of their traffic ...
We probably don't have the same references. For example, the range for AdWords campains is $0.08 and $0.15 for a targeted visitor. Then AdSense is paying less. Untargeted visitors are of course cheaper, between $0.02 and $0.06. Some advertizing network display their prices. AdBrite.com does. Anyway $0.01 is even less but I can not go higher. Since this is the same CPC I want to offer.

So few people are going to take your $1 offer seriouslly when you really would need to be offering them something closer to the $750 range to be taken seriously ...
I guess I haven't posted at the right place. I was n't looking for such highly priced websites.

But good luck
Thanks again, best regards, S.

FighterSpirit
12-19-2005, 01:57 PM
This would work for someone who has hundreds or thousands of daily visitors. It would be hard for most people to get enough clicks to generate a significant amount of income. Those with sites popular enough to make larger amounts probably don't need this sort of affiliation.
Your examples of $1 or $2 aren't helping you to convince anyone, either. ;)
CiCi
I have thousands of daily visitors but that affiliate program is too bad, sorry

Serious
12-20-2005, 06:17 AM
I have thousands of daily visitors but that affiliate program is too bad, sorry
I don't think it is so bad. In fact, I think it is much better than most other affiliate and avertizing programs. Let's suppose you have 5000 visitors. From all the cases I looked at, the rate of visitors that will click on this link is between 10% and 20%. That means between $5 and $10 a day. Maybe you get more from AdSense, AdBrite and al but most webmasters don't.
BTW, there is no constraint: why not to try it for one hour or one day? This is just a link and you can remove it whenever you want.

FighterSpirit
12-21-2005, 11:13 AM
I have thousands of daily visitors but that affiliate program is too bad, sorry
I don't think it is so bad. In fact, I think it is much better than most other affiliate and avertizing programs. Let's suppose you have 5000 visitors. From all the cases I looked at, the rate of visitors that will click on this link is between 10% and 20%. That means between $5 and $10 a day. Maybe you get more from AdSense, AdBrite and al but most webmasters don't.
BTW, there is no constraint: why not to try it for one hour or one day? This is just a link and you can remove it whenever you want.

Sorry My Friend, but no
Good Luck ;)
Not Bad Idea for website...

Serious
12-22-2005, 05:03 AM
Thanks for the reply.
Since you're making $5000 a week, this is no surprise. The program is more for small webmasters, bloggers and forum posters. And for them, I'm convinced it is a much better deal than AdSense or AdBrite for example (at least for the 2-3 first months). And you can still use all at the same time.

FighterSpirit
12-22-2005, 10:18 AM
Thanks for the reply.
Since you're making $5000 a week, this is no surprise. The program is more for small webmasters, bloggers and forum posters. And for them, I'm convinced it is a much better deal than AdSense or AdBrite for example (at least for the 2-3 first months). And you can still use all at the same time.

Agree with that

Serious
02-03-2006, 05:33 AM
Payments sent for January.
You're welcome to join for February.
T&C unchanged.

Serious
03-10-2006, 08:07 AM
Payments sent for January.
You're welcome to join for March.
So far, this program had limited success but some joined and they made money.
Since I believe more people could benefit of it, I decided to double the price per visitor, so $0.02.
Check the new T&C (http://www.milliondollarscreenshot.com/affiliate/).

encoder
03-12-2006, 03:18 AM
So gain visitors to visit the site is the main purpose of the affiliate program. Is the percentage high for the visitors to buy something from the site that they will go to?

For example, I entered to the affiliate program, then what if the people that I have encourage to visit your site will register also and then after they have registered they will unregister, will I still get the credit?