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creative2004
10-27-2005, 01:47 AM
I have search through many forum but I have not found much article covering this aspect of accessibility issues which are given below:
1. How to make one Form (spread within a Table/TH(10)/TR(100)) with form field matrix of say 10 columns and 100 rows fully accessible ? I also want each Form field should speak out without using any hidden CSS value.
2. What are the real advantages of using 'axis' and 'scope' attributes of TD/TH tag for accessibilty?
3. Found many discusion on JAWS, IBM screenreader2, browseraloud but never heard anything on WinXP in-built "Narrator" (utility manager) program. I found it extremely helpfull and handy application, press [Window]+[U] and listen to quality of speech and is absolutely clear and distinct. Any reason why Accessible guru never use or discussed about it ?
4. Color: We are designing one website keeping in mind Web Safe palettes which consist of 216 colors that display solid, non-dithered, and consistent on any computer monitor, or web browser; but we are also designing the same website keeping in mind for Color-Challenged people. Deutan, Protan and Tritan palettes are used. Problem is, keeping both the aspect in mind, what are the various colors (hex code) code available which can be use safely in our website ?
Thanks.
with regards.
pburton
10-29-2005, 02:28 PM
Sorry creative2004, but your post needs more clarity if it is to be understood. As a starter, what do you mean by accessibility ? Do you mean to the handicapped ? The word accessibility does not imply that limitation, neither in the English dictionary nor in the eyes of everyone I tested with it. What do you mean by usability ? It gets worse after that. Please help me to understand as I might be really interested in the topic, having experimented with a wide range of contrasting colours, etc.
creative2004
10-30-2005, 01:07 AM
Hello pburton, thanks for your reply. For a reply to your post or to know true meaning of the word accessibility & usability, please visit http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?p=93020
You can also take a look at google :
define:Accessibility
define:Usability
I will be more interested in knowing more about color
with regards.
pagetta
10-31-2005, 03:53 AM
this is a great site which simulates your site as colorblind people would see it so you can be sure it will be accessible to them:
http://www.vischeck.com/
hope this is of some help. I've no experience with screen readers I'm afraid but it would be great if you could feedback any info you do find on the subject.
good luck!
Webnauts
10-31-2005, 03:36 PM
To your question about forms you may find here http://www.webaim.org/techniques/forms/ an excellent tutorial.
To your questions about accessible tables you could have a look here: http://www.webaim.org/techniques/tables/
To your question about colors, you might would like to try this free very handy tool: http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/contrast_analyser/index.html
creative2004
11-04-2005, 02:46 AM
Hello Webnauts, yes :) thanks for letting me know about wonderful contrast analyser handy application. This is what I am looking for. It analyze normal, protanopia, deuteranopia and tritanopia color contrast result for color blindness and all I need to do is put those resultant foreground and background color in Photoshop Websafe palette and it gives final websafe hex color out of it. Higly recommend!
Regarding webaim forms and tables tutorials, I have read it before and it provides excellent information but not much in detail for what I am looking for.
If you have any information about free offline accessibility web testing product like 'bobby', which is not free and 'webking' (commercial), please let me know. Thanks again!
pagetta, thanks for your reply. I already have vischeck Photoshop plug-in installed but its purpose is to convert one raster image to protanopia, deuteranopia supported colours. Basically I myself is very confused about all available screen reader application developed keeping accessibility in mind. JAWS read out everything non-stop on a web page for 40 minutes (time restriction. So need to restart machine to listen for next 40 min). If you have normal website, which is not accessible, JAWS will still read everything. Whereas, I found Windows 'Narrator' is a very handy tool and speak out thing which we instructed to, using HTML accessibility attributes for some tags.
Regards.
Webnauts
11-04-2005, 08:01 AM
A free desktop accessibility testing tool I highly recommend is TAW3 which you can download here: http://www.tawdis.net/taw3/cms/en
About creating accessible tables, I think here you can find what you want: http://www.bcc.ctc.edu/webpublishing/ada/resources/tables.asp
creative2004
11-07-2005, 01:10 AM
Hello Webnauts, what should I say, once again thanks for the information. For a test, I run TAW to analyse 2000+ pages from our server and after getting priority Level 1-3 report for all pages, it not only saves our time to manually check all those pages but few thousend dollars spending in almost similiar commercial application. TAW analyses Web site accessibility, including all elements and pages included in the site and shows summary/detail TAW and EARL report. Thanks :)
regards.
Webnauts
11-07-2005, 01:26 AM
3. Found many discusion on JAWS, IBM screenreader2, browseraloud but never heard anything on WinXP in-built "Narrator" (utility manager) program. I found it extremely helpfull and handy application, press [Window]+[U] and listen to quality of speech and is absolutely clear and distinct. Any reason why Accessible guru never use or discussed about it ?
Maybe something like this? http://rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_rnib003069.hcsp#P39_6526