Do you write like a man? or a woman?

[minstrel]

Is it possible to predict the gender of a writer based on one sentence, or a few sentences?

Test the Gender Genie (http://www.bookblog.net/gender/genie.html) and find out.

[matauri]

Time for a sex change! I'm a man! LOL

I think Carbonize & Cyanide should take this test, considering that both of them got mistaken for females ;-)



Cindy

[rocky1]

Initial post was 184 words, and the Gender Genie was confused! I read the part where it stated that it works best with 500 or more words, and I pasted the entire piece of corresondence I'd cut the first paragraph from, and at 852 words it called it correctly.

[carju1]

I put my WPN article in and......

Female Score: 991
Male Score: 1441

The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male

All those masculine 'the's and 'are's beat up the wimpy female 'if's I had in there :)

Julian

[ldyguique]

Words: 715

(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

Female Score: 570
Male Score: 884

The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!

Why am I not surprised? Half of my callers also think that I'm male because I have a husky low-pitched voice.

[sonnie]

Female Score: 149
Male Score: 357

It's all those male words: as, it, to, the, a. Tim the Toolman would be proud. Arh, Arh, Arh.

[paulhiles]

Female Score: 574
Male Score: 1035

The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!

[a] [are] [as] [to] all saw me through!
Mind you, this was using an extract from my final dissertation for a Business IT degree (which I agonised over for months! :o)

Paul

[Leisa]

Whenever I enter my business writing it comes up male, but my creative writing comes up female. Interesting. Matauri, better make two appointments for that operation.

[rocky1]

Leisa interjects a very valid point here ladies. I personally would be interested in knowing what the other two of you used in analysis. And, if you would be so kind as to perform a similar comparison for the sake of our inquisitivity! (Yeah I think that's a word, it sounds good anyhow!)

IF, such is the case on all three of your parts, it would very likely tend to indicate that you gals are setting your feminine side aside, and gearing your documents to a male audience. Essentially a high impact business document style of writing. At that point however, I think we need Minstrel Woo Doggie!'s analytical mind to step in here and try to determine if this is something you've been taught, if it's a habit you've acquired over time to try and fit into what is at least perceived a male dominant business world, or if each of you simply had too many bowls of Wheaties for breakfast!

Whatever the cause it is an interesting case study. And, I'm thinking that it's very likely a taught method of business composition.

[Leisa]

Everything he said.
Yeah, I'd really like to know too. I was thinking along your same lines (god save me) and I'm leaning toward that explanation.

It's not a consious, conse, consio, whatever! thing but you may be right. Women may rule this World of Men but we have to play by the rules of men to fit in. Or something like that.

[Leisa]

Rocky, let's holler a little louder to get him in here....

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DOOOOOOOggie!!!!

[minstrel]

Frayed Knot, Rocky...

I just entered your last post into the Gender Genie and got this:


Words: 184
(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)
Female Score: 348
Male Score: 277

I tried it with both nonfiction and "fiction" written by me and came up female twice. I then tried a male fiction author - ditto: verdict = female. My older sister, who has written two mystery novels, tried passages from those and was told she was, you guessed it, male.

On the other hand, I just tried a passage from a journal article on antidepressants and got this:


Words: 315
(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)
Female Score: 169
Male Score: 462
The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!
So maybe it's not reallyt fiction vs. nonfiction so much as "science" vs. "non-science" (aka passages written in more colloquial language)...

...in which case, maybe the implicit assumption of the authors of this little program is that women can't write in technical/scientific language - and if so, even to me that would be a call to arms! :o)

[Leisa]

...in which case, maybe the implicit assumption of the authors of this little program is that women can't write in technical/scientific language - and if so, even to me that would be a call to arms! :o)
them's fightin' words

[minstrel]

I agree, Leisa...

However, I just tried a passage from an article that I wrote last spring on the socialization of males in western society - it was for a semi-scientific magazine (i.e., professional but not totally academic) - and again got this:


Words: 378
(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)
Female Score: 587
Male Score: 558
The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!
What the "Genie" highlights are all the "short" words like "the", "and", "all", etc. Here is the text entered, with the highlighted words identified in red and square brackets:


[The] past decade has revealed increasing evidence that boys [and] men in our society [are] suffering in [a] number of ways - depression, anxiety, difficulties [with] intimacy, [and] other problems [are] all too common - yet [the] socialization of males forces them into denial, repression, [and] displacement behaviors. Mary Pipher's 1994 book, Reviving Ophelia, described today's world [as] "a look-obsessed media-saturated girl-poisoning culture" that causes young girls [to] "stifle their creative spirits [and] natural impulses which ultimately destroys their self-esteem". [The] book's title refers [to] [the] story of Ophelia in Shakespeare's Hamlet: "as [a] girl, Ophelia happy [and] free, but [with] adolescence [she] loses herself. [When] [she] falls in love [with] Hamlet, [she] lives only for his approval. [She] has no inner direction; rather, [she] struggles [to] meet [the] demands of Hamlet [and] [her] father. [Her] value [is] determined utterly by their approval. Ophelia [is] torn apart by [her] efforts [to] please. [When] Hamlet (despondent over [the] death of his father) spurns [her], [she] goes mad [with] grief. Dressed in elegant clothes that weigh [her] down, [she] drowns in [a] stream filled [with] flowers". Four years later, [the] release of Real Boys by William Pollack drew attention [to] [the] fact that today's boys [are] also in trouble: "Hamlet fared little better than Ophelia. Alienated from himself [as] well [as] from his mother [and] father, he [was] plagued by doubt [and] erupted in uncontrolled outbursts. He grew increasingly isolated, desolate, [and] alone, [and] those [who] loved him could [not] get through [to] him. In [the] end, he died [a] tragic [and] unnecessary death". Pollack, [who] has since released [i][The] Real Boys Handbook: [A] Guide for Parents [and] Others, says that [as] [a] society [we] shame young boys [and] men into repressing [and] denying their [more] tender feelings. Pollack talks about [the] "Boy Code" that commands boys" [to] [be] [a] man, [be] strong, [be] brave, don't [be] [a] sissy, don't show [your] feelings". He suggests that [the] Boy Code [is] learned [at] an early age in sandboxes, playgrounds, classrooms, [and] our homes. Boys [who] don't learn quickly [to] conform [to] this code [are] taunted [and] shamed until they do. [As] [a] result, they learn [to] [be] silent [and] [to] suffer quietly, retreating behind [what] Pollack calls "[the] mask of masculinity".

So, it's worse than we thought... apparently, according to this program, women are only capable of monosyllabic utterances...

The "female" words are also
(1) words of 4 letters or less, and
(2) primarily connective words, which, even if eliminated, don't reduce the comprehensibility of the text.

My conclusion:
(1) the author of this program is a male and possibly a misogynist
(2) his view of women is that they use a lot of words that aren't necessary and if eliminated would leave the rest of the conversation or text more understandable

"Fightin' words" indeed...

Time to start burning down that website? ;o)

[matauri]

Time to start burning down that website? ;o)

Actually, I didnt mind it calling me a male. Not at all ! It was strangely gratifying to know that with a technical text & a professional text, that I can enter The Boys Club.

That it edited 'fluff' for females is a good indication that what Leisa, ldyguique & myself wrote isn't considered 'fluff' :-)

<<< shakes Leisa's & ldyguique's hand! >>>
Well done Ladies !! :-)


Cindy

[janeth]

I'm not playing because I think the Genie is broke.

I also think Rocky and Minstrel broke it.

[Leisa]

I agree with Matauri...every point. I'm not ashamed!!!!

But, to make the gender genie happy I will continue this post in true woman-spirit.

if not where should be with myself when her was not with she and me. hers was not where should be.

[Leisa]

the report on my last sentence is as follows:

Words: 21

(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

Female Score: 365
Male Score: 0

The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!

[minstrel]

Cindy:

While you were replying, I was editing and extending my post - see above.


Actually, I didnt mind it calling me a male. Not at all ! It was strangely gratifying to know that with a technical text & a professional text, that I can enter The Boys Club. That it edited 'fluff' for females is a good indication that what Leisa, ldyguique & myself wrote isn't considered 'fluff' :-)
That depends on how you view it - explaining this badly (I was very tired that day) got me into some unexpected trouble recently with a female Crown Attorney and female Judge, but that won't stop me trying again! :o)

If you read Pollock's book (or even the brief description above), the point is that, compared to most women, many men are handicapped, maybe almost disabled, emotionally - looking at it that way, it isn't a compliment to a woman to be thought to be a male...

To put it more bluntly, John Wayne doesn't exist. John Wayne never existed. Even John Wayne wasn't "John Wayne" (indeed, I find it interesting that his real first name was "Marion"). And the efforts of the male gender to emulate John Wayne are doomed and crippling.

[minstrel]

I'm not playing because I think the Genie is broke. I also think Rocky and Minstrel broke it.
Pfffttt... what do women know about programming? ;o)

(ducking to avoid the flower pots and frying pans)

[janeth]

You where not suppose to tell anyone I was at your house minstrel.

[Leisa]

Out of curiousity I just found an article written by a feminist, for feminists, about feminists, etc. It's the first one I came upon so it's not that I searched until I could find one that did this but... It comes up strongly male. What of it?

[ronniethedodger]

... or if each of you simply had too many bowls of Wheaties for breakfast!

Whatever the cause it is an interesting case study. And, I'm thinking that it's very likely a taught method of business composition.

I am going to go with this theory, because it contains the words "he" and "ties" in the word Wheaties. Also, breakfast could be interpretted as "fast break" which is a Basketball term of which is a Man's sport more so than a Woman's....in that Women prefer Football more any way. Must have something to do with the tight ends or something, I never did understand it myself.

[minstrel]

Out of curiousity I just found an article written by a feminist, for feminists, about feminists, etc. It's the first one I came upon so it's not that I searched until I could find one that did this but... It comes up strongly male. What of it?
Can you post or send me that article, Leisa? this little program has caught my attention and my professional interest... :-D

[rocky1]

[if] tomorrow never comes does that mean that today never ends [if] today never ends than how can i lose tuesday every week wouldnt today still [be] tuesday even though its wednesday how can [we] have [a] monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday etc [if] tomorrow never comes [and] [if] today never ends then how can [we] have [a] yesterday yesterday [is] just today in reverse right [and] since today never ends there can never [be] [a] tomorrow or yesterday just because [the] lights go out doesnt mean that [the] day [is] over [if] that [was] [the] case then everytime [the] electricity went out [a] new day would start right [and] [if] [a] new day starts [when] [the] lights go on would [a] new day start [when] you have [a] bright idea or [when] you finally get [a] new concept i see [a] lot of sunrises but very few sunsets [and] [the] lights [are] always on in my office soneedless [to] say [the] lights never go out [around] here [and] dont get [me] started on time its just an illusion like tomorrow [and] [the] number system its based on andif tomorrow never comes then everyday [is] our birthday [and] [we] never get any older because [we] were born today [the] next time you [are] asked [if] you were born today say yes [and] completely confuse people so happy birthday everyone you never get any older because you were born today isnt that great no [more] lying about [your] age gals [and] yes i do think [to] much

Strangely enough female!

[janeth]

minstrel are you going to try and get Gender Genie to lay down on the coach and try to find at if it was abused in another life. lol

[Leisa]

Can you post or send me that article, Leisa? this little program has caught my attention and my professional interest... :-D

I'll try to find it again later. I just did a search on google for - feminism in america superior - or something like that. Gotta go, my pool playing drinking buddies are leaving without me. Somebody's gotta watch out for them.

[labrynth_of_fire]

I write like a guy....un-consistent letter sizes and sloppy >:->

[minstrel]

Rocky:

[mischief mode]
Have you tried one of the posts from the "Jello EEG" thread? :-)
[/mischief mode]

[minstrel]

the report on my last sentence (which was, "if not where should be with myself when her was not with she and me. hers was not where should be.") is as follows:

Words: 21

(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

Female Score: 365
Male Score: 0

The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!
Of course... the text entered made absolutely no sense... ;o)

No wait! It said I was female too!! That is rank sexist propoganda!!! I demand monetary damages!!!! This website has assaulted my feminine side!!!!!

[ldyguique]

I leave for a few hours to watch a couple of action movies and come back to this!!! If one is able to determine gender by a dozen or so monosyllabic words, and not accurately, I might add -- who cares what it says?

And, DrShrink -- to answer your speculation, it's true. I did deliberately develop a particular style of writing in college (during the 1980s) that was designed to get As from sexist male Professors. I was older than about a third of them; however, it was the older professors, my agegroup, who were the most sexist AND ageist.

I learned to master Aristotelian logic according to their standards, which included three proofs to every argument, followed by three negations or oppostions to those proofs, followed by why those negations were invalid in comparison to the proofs, and therefore . . .blahblahblah

I got red-lined if I didn't spell out each and every AHA and this is why this proof is blahblahblah -- they couldn't grasp the essential simplicity of laying out the proofs to the argument and let it explain itself.

Since I was a returning student on a crash course in gotta get it done with maximum speed, I learned to write according to their needs.

[minstrel]

I leave for a few hours to watch a couple of action movies and come back to this!!!
And by action movies, she, of course, meant John Wayne, or possibly Clint Eastwood, or maybe even Governor Arnold... but please god not "Rocky Balboa" or that martial arts guy with the pony tail...

Or maybe she was referring to LOTR?

[ldyguique]

Bad acting and all, I'm a repeat watcher of all Steven Seagal movies -- and this one was followed by "Romeo Must Die," which had some great moves!!

[minstrel]

Oh, no!!! She did mean that guy with the pony tail!!!

Get thee behind me, satanette!!

[mikmik]

mikmik, from Edm., (from spirituality thread):
Words: 521

(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

Female Score: 381
Male Score: 886

BUT, from moral dilemna:
Words: 177

(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

Female Score: 477
Male Score: 457

The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!

One more, and I could be androgenous! Or what? I'm afraid to check, you thilly gooses!

[mikmik]

minstrel wrote this I just noticed:
Oh, no!!! She did mean that guy with the pony tail!!!

Get thee behind me, satanette!!

A--HEM!! I have a p-tail, and I look like S.S., I've been told, and I got 1.5 out of 2.

[ronniethedodger]

Oh, no!!! She did mean that guy with the pony tail!!!

Get thee behind me, satanette!!

I used to like Steven in his earlier flicks, but later films are not all that impressive. And he comes off as...well...roostery in his attitude.

Now that I know what you think about men with pony tails, it is a good thing that the pic of me to the left is not a profile shot, eh? And please, no more Crusty photos ... doh !!! =)

[mikmik]

(one more) matauri, I'm shocked!
Actually, I didnt mind it calling me a male. Not at all ! It was strangely gratifying to know that with a technical text & a professional text, that I can enter The Boys Club.

That it edited 'fluff' for females is a good indication that what Leisa, ldyguique & myself wrote isn't considered 'fluff' :-)

<<< shakes Leisa's & ldyguique's hand! >>>
Well done Ladies !! :-)

LEFT BRAIN, AND PROUD OF IT - hey?
8<;o)

[matauri]

LEFT BRAIN, AND PROUD OF IT - hey?

When dealing in 'your' world....yup ! Goes to show we can have both sides of our brain working ;-)

We adapt ! :-)


Cindy

[sonnie]

Female Score: 365
Male Score: 0
The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!

OK, so my score actually rated me maybe 100/50 Male. So you got a score of 100 totally female? Wait a minute, I think you cheated. I know you must have submitted something that would waver that to you.

Hmmm sonnie

[ronniethedodger]

LEFT BRAIN, AND PROUD OF IT - hey?

When dealing in 'your' world....yup ! Goes to show we can have both sides of our brain working ;-)


That explains those two-sided questions that women keep asking men that you are better off not answering at all...such as "How does this dress look on me?"

Just when you think you have a woman figured out, they switch sides in their brain on you in mid-stream. It is no wonder that this Gender Genie is wrong most of the time and it is definitely showing signs that it was programmed my a man.

I also am not left-handed, does that mean I am not in my right mind?

[mikmik]

Matauri wrote:
mikmik wrote:
LEFT BRAIN, AND PROUD OF IT - hey?


When dealing in 'your' world....yup ! Goes to show we can have both sides of our brain working ;-)
Damn! lol
I should've listened to my right brain before that post. Of course it's not 'one half or the other'!

ronniethedodger answer a great mystery!
That explains those two-sided questions that women keep asking men that you are better off not answering at all...such as "How does this dress look on me?"


Just when you think you have a woman figured out, they switch sides in their brain on you in mid-stream. It is no wonder that this Gender Genie is wrong most of the time and it is definitely showing signs that it was programmed my a man.

Pleased to meet you, man!

[Leisa]

Am I the only one sensing that war is upon us?

[mikmik]

Leisa ponders:
Am I the only one sensing that war is upon us?

Before I answer, would you be so kind as to tell me what side that question originates from, comrade?

B-)

:-)8-<

:-)-^<

[Leisa]

Before I answer, would you be so kind as to tell me what side that question originates from, comrade?

B-)

:-)8-<

:-)-^<

LMAO!!! I wouldn't be female if my answer wasn't "Oh, you know, I'm kinda in the middle. Doesn't really matter either way.".

The commentator speaks: The women sit idly by, eyeing their prey. Having tricked him into thinking they will not strike...they wait to engage the enemy...they wait for him to make that one fatal mistake...

[ldyguique]

<pretending to be a female, rather than a "Russian female,"> The only statement that I could make to all of the guys' postings: You KNOW what you said, I shouldn't have to explain.

[janeth]

Leisa it does appear you scared them away.

[Leisa]

Leisa it does appear you scared them away.

I suppose this leaves no doubt as to who wields the power. Their silence has spoken volumes.

[janeth]

It does look like when the girls get togeather the men run

[minstrel]

But uusally "when girls get together and men run" they run toward the girls, not away from them - I think in this case we were alarmed not by the female part but the armed and dangerous part... ;-)

Actually, given the battering you women were taking from the Gender Genie, I think I may speak for more than just myself when I say I thought you might like to be alone to commiserate together, eat chocolate, and have one of those pyjama parties we guys are never invited to...

[mikmik]

janeth observered:
It does look like when the girls get togeather the men run

minstrel retorts:
But uusally "when girls get together and men run" they run toward the girls, not away from them - I think in this case we were alarmed not by the female part but the armed and dangerous part... ;-)

Actually, given the battering you women were taking from the Gender Genie, I think I may speak for more than just myself when I say I thought you might like to be alone to commiserate together, eat chocolate, and have one of those pyjama parties we guys are never invited to...

mikmik's turn: Familiar territory, eh minstrel?
They don't realize we are specialists in this area, and 'combat tested'. (But this one, ldyguique:
<pretending to be a female, rather than a "Russian female,"> The only statement that I could make to all of the guys' postings: You KNOW what you said, I shouldn't have to explain.Must watch her - no 'reconnaissance' yet. Special agents Paulhiles and rocky1 made need to be contacted, I will be free of mission responsibilities in "alpha-berta sector" by 2200H. Prelim data indicates target=janeth with strong ties to known blonde faction, may be disguised, known recruiter: Warning-All personnel; be wary of female attempts at isolating and outnumbering. CALL FOR RE-ENFORCEMENTS.
repeat CALL IN RE-ENFORCEMENTS WHEN STAMINA WANES; suggested - 1 hour, the fems are only human! Take live prisoners only!)
(makes mental-remember to encrypt further communicai)

[ronniethedodger]

Pleased to meet you, man!

Same to you dude !!! Let's get together later and compare pony-tails and eat some red meat. arg-arg-arg-arg.

[Leisa]

Actually, given the battering you women were taking from the Gender Genie, I think I may speak for more than just myself when I say I thought you might like to be alone to commiserate together, eat chocolate, and have one of those pyjama parties we guys are never invited to...

*#&$* @**&^*&# $(*&(*&#$ (*%@^# @&#^*&@% $(#@**&$#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ronniethedodger]

Actually, given the battering you women were taking from the Gender Genie, I think I may speak for more than just myself when I say I thought you might like to be alone to commiserate together, eat chocolate, and have one of those pyjama parties we guys are never invited to...

yea right....then we can set up hidden webcams and watch em break out all over their faces after eating the chocolate...not to mention all of the revenue from posting the pics on the web....

(psssst....they are listening idiot)

....better not do any of that. Shame on you Minstrel for even bringing it up. The girls are mad enough. Leave it alone I tell ya !!!

[mikmik]

Leisa wrote:
*#&$* @**&^*&# $(*&(*&#$ (*%@^# @&#^*&@% $(#@**&$#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a trap! Run for them!! I mean IT! Run for covers!

[ldyguique]

Men who wear ponytails should remember and heed the lesson of Samson. Women are sneakier than men; it would be wise to remember this.

While you are busy arrgghing and chestbeating and going through manly enthusiasms, you aren't paying attention to what is going on behind you.

[ronniethedodger]

Actually, given the battering you women were taking from the Gender Genie, I think I may speak for more than just myself when I say I thought you might like to be alone to commiserate together, eat chocolate, and have one of those pyjama parties we guys are never invited to...

*#&$* @**&^*&# $(*&(*&#$ (*%@^# @&#^*&@% $(#@**&$#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
... . . . .^
... . . . .^
... . . . .^
gimme one of those, they are my favorite

[ronniethedodger]

While you are busy arrgghing and chestbeating and going through manly enthusiasms, you aren't paying attention to what is going on behind you.

I thought "arguing" and "chest feeling" were the manly enthusiasms.

And I do pay attention...uh...now I forgot...what were you just talking about again?

[janeth]

What was the score from the gender genie for the men that have pony-tails compaired to the men with out them.

[ronniethedodger]

What was the score from the gender genie for the men that have pony-tails compaired to the men with out them.

Higher !!!

How is that for an non-answer? =)

[christoefar]

I just read the entire post and boy it was confusiong, well I got female on my old school work, and female on almost everything I wrote.

Is it not really possible to tell if a piece of text was written by a male or female, one good way is to look at the hand writing

Messy - Male
Neat - Female

This is a general assumption only, and not meant to offend anyone!

And whats wrong with males with pony tails ?

[janeth]

I was just playing with the pony tails

Just wanted to know if it mad you more of a man or less of a man.

Why do you have one?

I'm taking a poll

[minstrel]

I was just playing with the pony tails - Just wanted to know if it made you more of a man or less of a man.
Well, I don't have a pony tail ('tcha! as if!) but even so I consider those to be fightin' words, for sure...

Leisa or Daren? can we get a pic of Janeth with those Paul Hiles horns? She's definitely stirring the pot here... being what my mother used to call a little minx (yeah I know... I never fully understood it either).

[janeth]

NOW NOW

I asked a question I did not comment either way rather I liked them or not.

( really I think it looks good on the right guy but do not tell anyone I said that )

[mikmik]

janeth asked:
I was just playing with the pony tails

Just wanted to know if it mad you more of a man or less of a man.

Why do you have one?

I'm taking a poll

Well, when I see pictures of 'hot hunks', they usually have long hair.
Does it make you more of a man? Generally, women like the long hair, then we move in or get married, then they try to 'style' it....shorter....and...and then I'm single again for years at a time.
That way I get the compliments, I get to keep the rapidly disappearing but still stylishly long locks, and..... I might meet the mythical 'woman who means it when she says she likes me for what I an NOW' (not for what I am "when she gets done 'redecorating'" now)
and live happily every after, right dear?

More of a man? Plenty good enough, if I just don't try that "I was like that when we met" crap once the honeymoon is over LOL :o*
(I'm kidding about the mythical part :o)

(or is he?....)

Oh ya, to answer you, janeth, I have one because I'm a hippy, I like long hair, I haven't found a stylist I can trust, and I look funny with short hair IMO.

[ronniethedodger]

And whats wrong with males with pony tails ?

Evidently they all write like girls...that is how I am interpreting the results. Us guys with pony tails are sissy writers to the Gender Genie....and I think they need to neuter that piece of shift-ware.

Of course this is only a pony-tailed opinion. ;-)

[mikmik]

Hey, you there, what the heck??
Well, I don't have a pony tail ('tcha! as if!) but even so I consider those to be fightin' words, for sure...

Minstrel, it's a chick magnet!!
But it doesn't make you more of a man!!
Not less either!!
Just more open minded!!
Just kidding!!

<edit - add on..>
ronniethedodger posted:
coolo_chris wrote:
And whats wrong with males with pony tails ?


Evidently they all write like girls...that is how I am interpreting the results. Us guys with pony tails are sissy writers to the Gender Genie....and I think they need to neuter that piece of shift-ware.

Of course this is only a pony-tailed opinion. ;-)

I must insist that it is a sign of our versatility (see note to minstrel above) and we can write in any style we choose, but our handwriting is still messy, and we don't use little 'happy faces' to dot our i's!

[ronniethedodger]

I was just playing with the pony tails

Just wanted to know if it mad you more of a man or less of a man.

Why do you have one?

I'm taking a poll

hmmm....mostly because I haven't cut it and it looks like crap if I don't put it up in a ponytail.

But when it does look good...I really like to go to the bar and do that Fabio thing and toss my hair in a big swirl. It really wows the girls, and they go ga-ga.

Then I turn around to do the Fabio thing to wow another girl sitting down at the other end of the bar ... and I notice in the mirror out of the corner of my eye that the previous girl has this horrid look on her face. I may have long hair with a magnificent flowing curl to it....but it is not enough to cover up that one little shiny spot at the rear of my noggin.

so I pull it back up into it's ponytail, tuck it up under my baseball cap and gracefully exit the bar.

[ronniethedodger]

I must insist that it is a sign of our versatility (see note to minstrel above) and we can write in any style we choose, but our handwriting is still messy, and we don't use little 'happy faces' to dot our i's!

Kewl dude, and right on !

You and I must get together and talk about what we did at Woodstock, and if we may have possibly met back in those good ol' free-lovin long-haired flower-powered far-out-trippin and totally-psychidelic grassy-eyed days....did I say grassy?....I meant glassy....come to think of it...I guess they both mean just about the same thing. 8)

[janeth]

I think that it is great that you old men try and look young with the pony tails.

I'm just playing so do not get upset.

I really do love you all with or with out the pony tails.

How many of you have ear rings?

[mikmik]

I'm very angry, janeth.
Oh NO! Not at you!

(man, or woman? c- none of the above)
http://factor1.net/temp/wpw/12_21%20Hair.jpg

Where'd it go??!
C'mon, show us your bald spots!
No more diamond stud in left ear though, janeth.

I must sign off - ale + mikmik + WPW = BADNEWS!
(non yet (o; )

Oops :o^
ronniethedodger =
Kewl dude, and right on !

You and I must get together and talk about what we did at Woodstock, and if we may have possibly met back in those good ol' free-lovin long-haired flower-powered far-out-trippin and totally-psychidelic grassy-eyed days....did I say grassy?....I meant glassy....come to think of it...I guess they both mean just about the same thing. 8)

Wasn't there, bit to young to go across N.A. but, I definitely was 'Country Joe and the Fish' and 'C.S.N. & Y.' fan, and those glassy causing 'cubes LOL

You, rocky1, cyanide, and minstrel will be seeing me on way back from Col., S.A. next summer!!
Then I'll need a holiday!
(makes mental to remember:guitar, ale, aspirin, scotch, cologne... right j?)

[ronniethedodger]

I think that it is great that you old men try and look young with the pony tails.

I'm just playing so do not get upset.

I really do love you all with or with out the pony tails.

How many of you have ear rings?

C'mon Janeth !! That is getting a little personal. But, if you must truly know such things of men...no. No real man would ever, ever have any piercings above the neck. =)

[minstrel]

http://factor1.net/temp/wpw/12_21%20Hair.jpg


Didn't this guy used to be the Kim Mitchell Band (and before that Max Webster)?

[rocky1]

Actually... I was thinking more along the lines of he's a dead ringer for my younger brother in that picture!

Sorry to disappear on you all that way today, but after ranting at length on issues in another thread, my kids were over for Christmas, so I haven't been bouncing around in here much.

Per Minstrel's earlier questions... Nope didn't try the Jell-O posting, but I'm going after it now.

Per Janeth's questions, no pony tail, never had one, although the hair was long enough too, (maybe, way back when), and never will. No piercing's in any respect either! I didn't need either to attract the ladies!

[rocky1]

[quote="We all Know Who!"]Keywords: this [should] really worry you then okay [a] ghost storyafter this there wont any doubt in anyones mind that im [a] bit off kilter now take [a] deep breath because this [is] going [to] [be] fun people say that they do [not] believe in ghosts yet i do [not] know one person [who] doesnt believe in ghosts [we] use numbers [and] letters [and] believe in gravity [the] laws of physics [and] logicthese [are] all ghosts yet everyday [we] use them [and] believe in them [and] [we] dont think twice about [it] [to] us they seem real [the] question [is] did any of [these] things exist before they were discovered did gravity truly exist before [the] 17th century [when] isaac newton discovered [it] [if] you say yes gravity existed before then then answer [me] thisif [it] did exist before [the] sun moon stars earth etc [and] [was] just sitting there having no mass of its own no energy [and] in no ones mind because there wasnt anyone [and] just sitting out in space before there [was] space did [it] truly exist [if] [it] did exist then how would you define nonexistance there [is] every reason [to] believe that [it] [was] nonexistant [and] no reason [to] think that [it] did exist yet its common sense [to] believe that [it] did exist [the] law of gravity exists no [where] but in [your] head thats [the] only logical conclusion thus its [a] ghost [to] quote [a] rather good book laws of nature [are] human inventions like ghosts laws of logic of mathematics [are] also human inventions like ghosts [the] whole blessed thing [is] [a] human invention including [the] idea that [it] isnt [a] human invention [the] world has no existence whatsoever outside them human imagination its all [a] ghost [and] in antiquity [was] so recognized [as] [a] ghost [the] whole blessed world [we] live in its run by ghosts [your] common sense [is] nothing [more] than [the] voices of thousands [and] thousands of ghost ghosts [and] [more] ghosts


This one's gonna scare you Minstrel! You'll definitely have to study this program further to explain it all! Believe it or not ..........

Words: 335

(NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.)

Female Score: 346
Male Score: 439

The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: [b]male!

[Leisa]

Leisa or Daren? can we get a pic of Janeth with those Paul Hiles horns? She's definitely stirring the pot here... being what my mother used to call a little minx (yeah I know... I never fully understood it either).

I don't know about daren, but I tried and I tried and I tried to give you this. Every attempt got this weird yellow glare! It was the strangest thing...
http://whollywholesale.com/janeth.gif

[ldyguique]

I dunno -- I'm from the right era -- where a lot of men have had extremely long hair at one time or other during the past several decades. Most of the time the hairstyle = uncut or trimmed. Frankly, that's not a hairstyle; however, do hairstyles really matter? Or is it just another way to group ppl based on their looks?

I don't particular like long hair on a man, it's more something that I ignore. However, there is a big difference between a buzzcut and hair to the collar vs down to the shoulderblades. Hair is hair or bald is nonhair. It really doesn't matter a hill o'beans when finding friendships.

I have friends who represent the full spectrum of human physical possibilities. In the land o'geeks, I see exceedingly obese to scrawnily skinny, glasses, no glasses, hair to shaved pate, 18 to my age. And, after initial impressions, none of it really matters.

Although, I must admit, I'm only talking about friendships cus I never plan on having another "relationship." I've found that men and women both play the game of "I love you as you are, today" but "You need improvement and changes if we're going to stay together."

[janeth]

Thanks so much Leisa

While I think long hair ear rings and everything else really makes no difference at all it was what is on the inside that counts.

[wenwilder]

Boy, you step a way from the computer for a weekend and suddenly there's a 50/50 chance that you're male or female. Now I know how Cyanide and Carbonize feel!

In hopes of determining my true gender once and for all (I am leaning heavily toward female, otherwise I have looked far funnier in dresses than I originally thought) I tried the gender genie out using my color theory article and the results...............

Words: 1197
Female Score: 1528
Male Score: 2167
The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: male!

I want a recount!!!! Second opinion!!!!! :)

When the doctors removed my rib in March I joked with them that I was no longer an Eve, but had become an Adam. :)

Even dear sweet Julian (excuse me while I laugh uncontrollably for a few hours ;) ) has made a reference to my possible male aspect


OK who gets to the picture of Wen with a beard :) (http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=10225&start=25)


I want my rib back!!!!!!!!!! lol

[janeth]

I think the person that made the Genie was trying to prove he was a man.


In order to do this he had to make it work backwards. It looks like all the guys are female and all the females are male.

[wenwilder]

I'm glad that Male or Female is the only two options it has - knowing my luck I'd end up being an ameoba!

[rocky1]

Or, a bowl of talking Jell-O!

[minstrel]

Did anyone read that story recently about the lab that was reversing the results of testing for HIV and Hepatitis C? Their program was flagging negatives as positives and vice versa, so for a few months people had been getting reversed notifications.

Maybe the same guy who wrote that program wrote the Gender Genie... either that or the estrogen-testosterone balance, at least at WPW, is a lot less clear than hitherto assumed.

[rocky1]

It was probably written by the same folks that wrote the Algebra portion of that College Entrance Exam I just took last week!

[minstrel]

Odd... the WPW Autonotification option is now informing me about my own posts to a thread.

That's encouraging actually - it may help me to remember what I said and where I said it...

Leisa or Daren? can we get a pic of Janeth with those Paul Hiles horns? She's definitely stirring the pot here... being what my mother used to call a little minx (yeah I know... I never fully understood it either).

I don't know about daren, but I tried and I tried and I tried to give you this. Every attempt got this weird yellow glare! It was the strangest thing...
http://whollywholesale.com/janeth.gif


lol i wuz just reading this thread 4 the first time really......

lol i gotta find a break in my work day to take this test now that i'm all curious

Janeth looks great as an angel ...even kinda resembles the angel on top of our christmas tree ;-}

DAREN;-}
http://WebPageTurner.com

[minstrel]

I don't know about daren, but I tried and I tried and I tried to give you this. Every attempt got this weird yellow glare! It was the strangest thing...
http://whollywholesale.com/janeth.gif
Janeth looks great as an angel ...even kinda resembles the angel on top of our christmas tree
Daren... try to stay with the program here. I can understand Leisa's response - she has a vested interest in the takeover-of-the-world but you have to answer the call to arms here... that smile is deceptive...

[mikmik]

ldyguique morbidly hints:
Men who wear ponytails should remember and heed the lesson of Samson. Women are sneakier than men; it would be wise to remember this.

While you are busy arrgghing and chestbeating and going through manly enthusiasms, you aren't paying attention to what is going on behind you.

Or 'down there' when were sleeping? It happenned again. I just read another 'Lorena Bobbit' type of incident, and by incident - I mean OUCH!) in the paper, only "she" brought 'it' wrapped up "nicely in a wash cloth" but too late for reattatchment! Seems she found a text message on his cell phone that he didn't erase, and although I am strongly against what he was 'up' to (never again - OUCH!), Samson got off lucky - I just realized that story is a metaphor!!!
I bet Lorena was wearing an halo at bedtime as minstrel reminds :
Daren... try to stay with the program here. I can understand Leisa's response - she has a vested interest in the takeover-of-the-world but you have to answer the call to arms here... that smile is deceptive...

(Sshhhh... Don't blow his cover)
Ya man, we're at 'war' here (good work, they trust you, wink, wink) :o)

[greeneagle]

This has to be skewed!

In my first several tries everything I import into the "Gender Genie" places me in the "Female" catagory!

Damn glad my wife doesn't see me that way!

Then again, who knows, maybe she does!
Ken

[ronniethedodger]

Odd... the WPW Autonotification option is now informing me about my own posts to a thread.

That's encouraging actually - it may help me to remember what I said and where I said it...

Odd...mine is not working at all.

Also...the Auto-login Checkbox does not work. I have to log in every time I come here. So if you all don't see any posts from me for a while, it is because I am border-line lazy and I have crossed over.

[ronniethedodger]

Thanks so much Leisa

While I think long hair ear rings and everything else really makes no difference at all it was what is on the inside that counts.

You say that now....wait til you find out that it is only jello ! =)

[Leisa]

Daren... try to stay with the program here. I can understand Leisa's response - she has a vested interest in the takeover-of-the-world but you have to answer the call to arms here... that smile is deceptive...

Hey! He was our recruit, fair and square! Hands off!

[ronniethedodger]

This has to be skewed!

In my first several tries everything I import into the "Gender Genie" places me in the "Female" catagory!

Damn glad my wife doesn't see me that way!

Then again, who knows, maybe she does!
Ken

Ken -- don't let this Gender Genie do to the same to you that Google PR is also. Don't sweat it. Have you considered the possibility that the PR and GG algos are written by the same person? ;-)

To prove my point, do this search for mens products (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=mens+products) at Google. The number one listing is from what domain?

Daren... try to stay with the program here. I can understand Leisa's response - she has a vested interest in the takeover-of-the-world but you have to answer the call to arms here... that smile is deceptive...

Hey! He was our recruit, fair and square! Hands off!

lol ;-}


DARN DAREN
http://WebPageTurner.com

[janeth]

Daren there is nothing wrong with wanting to be on a winning team.

Also if this was a real war and you had to spend a month in a fox hole which team would you rather be on.

[minstrel]

Daren there is nothing wrong with wanting to be on a winning team. Also if this was a real war and you had to spend a month in a fox hole which team would you rather be on.
I told you she was devious!

Daren! Quick while I have her covered with this spray bottle of Windex! Make a run for it!!

[ronniethedodger]

Daren there is nothing wrong with wanting to be on a winning team.

Also if this was a real war and you had to spend a month in a fox hole which team would you rather be on.

hmmm...that is tough one.

I guess the men's side, because I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole for a whole month.

Now if this was just a two-day war, then that would be a different story !!! ;-)

[mikmik]

janeth wrote
if

If? IF? Have you not been married?? LOL >:o) (P.S. I know you are married, thus my confusion! lol)

ronniethedodger wrote
hmmm...that is tough one.

I guess the men's side, because I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole for a whole month.
Me either, I'm not a young man anymore, I need a slight rest after 1/2 hr. or so. ;o> (even that's probably bragging lol)


Now if this was just a two-day war, then that would be a different story !!! ;-)

Geneva convention re: torture of POW's does not apply, if you capture one of us. And I'm sure we'll have no prob's with the volunteering for the rescue mission.

Also: Hey, Daren. What's your secret!?

[ronniethedodger]

Now if this was just a two-day war, then that would be a different story !!! ;-)

Geneva convention re: torture of POW's does not apply, if you capture one of us. And I'm sure we'll have no prob's with the volunteering for the rescue mission.


Ten-hut

..psst Sergeant MikMik.

There is a difference between being captured and volunteering for probing enemy resistance and eliciting vital secrets.

Give me a day and a half before you commence extraction...ahem, I mean...rescue operations.

...and..and...don't make it look too obvious.

Remember, I am supposedly being tortured here...okay?

At-ease.

[janeth]

My thought was if you had to me couped up for a long period of time would it be better to have to be in a small place with woman that are smart, funny, smell good and are very, very nice

or

With a bunch of smell bad grumpy old men that are slowly loosing there minds.

[wenwilder]

If you were cooped up for a long period of time, in a small space, with men OR women - everyone is going to smell bad, nobody is going to be nice, and smart and funny are going to become annoying and crazy! lol

[Narasinha]

janeth asked:
I was just playing with the pony tails

Just wanted to know if it mad you more of a man or less of a man.

Why do you have one?

I'm taking a poll
Oh ya, to answer you, janeth, I have one because I'm a hippy, I like long hair, I haven't found a stylist I can trust, and I look funny with short hair IMO.

I like my long hair, as does my wife. I might trim the ends a bit if I start getting it caught in my belt. A few more months and it should be about that length. I too think I look funny with short hair. I think I look funny without the mustache and goatee as well. So does my wife. I shaved them off once since we met, and she asked me never to do it again. I've taken her advice.

[Leisa]

If you were cooped up for a long period of time, in a small space, with men OR women - everyone is going to smell bad, nobody is going to be nice, and smart and funny are going to become annoying and crazy! lol

Good points. For women, no matter how many pretty smelling goodies we bring, eventually the supplies will run out. And can you say catfight? Good grief that would be horrible!

[janeth]

Ok So I did not do good with my sample.

But my husband said it would be better to be on the womens side then the men.

Then he came up with that idea and he made it sound good for him.

[mikmik]

janeth wrote:
Ok So I did not do good with my sample.
Well, the men DO shower and wear aftershave occasionally, but we only do it to impress the opposite sex. (what was that? ;o> )
You are very quick to indict a male, however. You got that part exactly right!

But my husband said it would be better to be on the womens side then the men.

Then he came up with that idea and he made it sound good for him. Well! He better shape up his attitude if he wants to join the 'right' team over here. :o)

And Leisa? Ya. YA. I do not trust you and that jello eating wen, not on your life. (it's good with marshmallows, though, sshhhhh....)
Ya. :o)

[ronniethedodger]

Ok So I did not do good with my sample.

But my husband said it would be better to be on the womens side then the men.

Then he came up with that idea and he made it sound good for him.


Spoken like a true husband !!! ;-)

That is why you come to WPW Janeth -- to get the real low-down of what men are really thinking.