The Mystery of Inktomi

[DreamingEagle]

My site is #3 in Google under keywords "Juarez Mexico", but I can't seem to get anywhere with Inktomi, which means I am nowhere in Lycos and MSN. Here are the meta tags on my home page at http://www.juarez-mexico.com:

<title>CIUDAD JUAREZ TOUR GUIDE, Juarez Mexico, Ciudad Juarez, Ciudad Juarez Mexico</title>
<META NAME="Keywords" CONTENT="Juarez Mexico, Ciudad Juarez, Ciudad Juarez Mexico, Juarez Mexico Restaurants, Cuidad Juarez Restaurants, Juarez Mexico Markets, Ciudad Juarez Markets">
<META NAME="Description" CONTENT="Discover the great restaurants, attractions, and shopping values in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico.">
<META NAME="Author" CONTENT="Juarez Mexico Tour Guide">
<META NAME="RATING" CONTENT="General">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="index, follow">
<META NAME="CLASSIFICATION" CONTENT="Mexico Travel">
<META NAME="REVISIT-AFTER" CONTENT="1 Week">

I'm really having a hard time understanding this since my category is not a popular one. Currently sites which have a couple of pictures of something in Juarez someone took on their summer vacation are outranking mine, people who have made no effort whatsoever to optimize for these keywords.

I'm all ears to anyone who understands what this search engine wants. My efforts up 'till now have been centered on Google, but I'd like the extra traffic from Inktomi, also.

Thx.
Ron

[Toolman]

Go here (http://www.sitesolutions.com/analysis.asp?F=Form) run the test and address all these issues.

Then go here (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.juarez-mexico.com) and run it again.

More problems

Frank(U1 Webmaster)

[DreamingEagle]

Don't EVEN think you are hurting my feelings any, because I didn't come here to hear nice things about what I am doing. I came here to LEARN and get in the Top 10 on every search engine and learn how to stay there....for any site I develop in the future.

So I really appreciate you taking the time to point these things out.

It's too late tonight, but I'm going to squash most of these errors tomorrow night. Then I'm off to Mexico for 14 days, and will be coming back here for more guidance...

Night!

[TrafficProducer]

Inktomi

I believe you need to pay for a listing with Inktomi

This may be done via Lycos (http://insite.lycos.com/) -

Lycos SE Submit (http://insite.lycos.com/inclusion/searchenginesubmit.asp)

[albaby]

I would do a few things. The text links that are actully graphics below, adsense, make them text, Google likes text.

Put Adsense to the right in a 2nd table columm,. Or get rid of it alltogether, I dont understand Adsense, and the point of giving you customers a WAY OUT of your site.

Google MAY be docking you since your flooding it with the word Juarez.... in the metas

No engines that I know of care about <META NAME="CLASSIFICATION" CONTENT="Mexico Travel">

No alt tag in top FOUR links

Top left graphic has no alt, should say city/cntry

Why does the domain have a colon in it? http://www.juarez-mexico.com:/ Could that be the Primary reason for non Googling?

[alienzhavelanded]

Toolman said: Obviously you have no concept of how engines spider cgi perl script -

(MOD note: that member has now been banned and his more offensive posts deleted)

And obviously you have no concept of how PAGE RANK affects what Google thinks is a "quality" inbound link. You can rank great in your search results, but if your PR is ZERO, Google will NOT consider it a great backlink. Instead of arguing with people you could be a bit more open minded. Silly human.

The Martian

[Lando]

I would definitely revamp the keywords you have chosen, I mean as far as the number of times repeated. 'Juarez' is mentioned seven times alone, and could be more damaging than helpful.

I am only SUGGESTING that MAYBE the SE's are looking suspiciously at the repeated words in a negative light. Again, just my opinion. By the way, I found that the very little money to get into Inktomi is worth every penny!
Your best bet is to optimize your content with keywords rationally and properly distributed throughout the body.
Hope this helps!
Lando

[JuarezTourGuide]

First, the topic under discussion is Inktomi, not Google. I'm #3 in Google. Second, the Adsense ads are the only revenue the site has generated, so they stay. Third, the image menu under the banner started off as text links, but that was messing up the description on some of the pages Google had indexed. The left navigation are all text links, and so are the ones at the bottom. Fourth, strangely enough, I did pay Lycos In-Site for a year subscription.

I'm confused about the repetition of the word "Juarez" in the keywords, however.

Let's simplify this a bit. If you wanted to write keywords for two search terms, "Juarez Mexico" and "Ciudad Juarez", what would you write?

To the poster who suggested the analysis tools, thanks again. I'm going to work on those reports right now.

Thanks to all of you.

[geoffreygag]

Hola Dreaming Eagle.

You will have to pay $32.00 in order to get included in Inktomi & Fast. Otherwise, Inktomi will eventually add you to their data after several months. My www.mexico.us site got on Inktomi after a few months for free. You may want to pay in order to be positioned for the big 1st qtr searches which are made for Mexico searches.

[minstrel]

I'm confused about the repetition of the word "Juarez" in the keywords, however. Let's simplify this a bit. If you wanted to write keywords for two search terms, "Juarez Mexico" and "Ciudad Juarez", what would you write?
I think many people are confused by the concept of keyword repetition and I agree with you:

"juarez, juarez, juarez, juarez" is keyword repetition.

"Juarez Mexico, Ciudad Juarez" is not because they are two non-identical keyphrases which merely contain a common word.

Similarly, "Easter eggs, Easter baskets" or "Christmas gifts, Christmas decorations, Christmas trees" are keyphrases describing different items a site might sell and containing common words.

I know of no evidence to suggest that such phrases would be viewed as "spamming". I don't see any problems with the practice, I do it on my own site in describing certain related psychiatric disorders, and, like JuarezTourGuide, I can't think of any other way one could do this anyway.

[ronniethedodger]

Hola Dreaming Eagle.

You will have to pay $32.00 in order to get included in Inktomi & Fast. Otherwise, Inktomi will eventually add you to their data after several months. My www.mexico.us site got on Inktomi after a few months for free. You may want to pay in order to be positioned for the big 1st qtr searches which are made for Mexico searches.

Yes. It is a good deal too. But isn't those seperated charges, $32 each ??? I will have to find my receipt on that to verify it.

I might add that the $32 (whether for one or both services) is per page, not the entire site. Usually you will apply that fee to just your home page.

The fee covers a one-year period, and guarantees that your submitted page is crawled every 48 hours.

[JuarezTourGuide]

You may want to pay in order to be positioned for the big 1st qtr searches which are made for Mexico searches.

As mentioned above, I did spring for paid inclusion, but I'm curious about this part of geoffreygag's comment. Not sure what "1st qtr searches which are made for Mexico searches" is.

Toolman's utilities did a lot to help me coordinate the keywords in the title, meta keywords tag, and body text, and they also revealed the shocking discovery not a single page on my web site had a <DOC TYPE> tag. Adding one to the three Dreamweaver templates being used and then republishing the site took care of that problem.

All that said I still find it very peculiar that page after page of junk sites which have done NO optimization towards keywords "Juarez Mexico" could appear before mine, especially since I paid for inclusion, but that's just life, I guess. We'll see how this improves my ranking in Inktomi driven engines.

Thanks to all of you. I'm off to Mexico for 15 days and won't return to the 5th. I need a little time with some pretty muchachas who never heard of the Googlebot or Inktomi crawler algothythms...:)

Merry Christmas to all!

[cbp]

I'm off to Mexico for 15 days and won't return to the 5th. I need a little time with some pretty muchachas who never heard of the Googlebot or Inktomi crawler algothythms...:)

Thats some good advice. The best thing I ever did for my PR was to go on holiday for 2 weeks .... rather than check 100 times a day what the PR is, what bot has been to visit, who linked to me, where I ranked, etc .... when I got back everything looked better (PR was up, rankings up etc) - there is a good lesson in that - PATIENCE

I was in Mexico 3 weeks ago - enjoy. Google will still be here when you get back :-)

CBP

[geoffreygag]

"1st qtr searches which are made for Mexico searches" Jaurez, sorry.

9.8 million U.S. tourist go to Mexico every year. Many start planning their spring or summer vacations during the months of Jan - Feb - Mar.

So if your site is better positioned by then, you should expect an increase in visitors.

www.mexico.us y www.ecuador.us

[jackson992]

One thing I want to comment on re:repetition. Some repetition is good. I think you are a fool if you're not using the same phrase in your title and heading tag. This is just common sense and I see no indication that anyone is penalizing against this

[ronniethedodger]

I'm off to Mexico for 15 days and won't return to the 5th. I need a little time with some pretty muchachas who never heard of the Googlebot or Inktomi crawler algothythms...:)

Thats some good advice. The best thing I ever did for my PR was to go on holiday for 2 weeks .... rather than check 100 times a day what the PR is, what bot has been to visit, who linked to me, where I ranked, etc .... when I got back everything looked better (PR was up, rankings up etc) - there is a good lesson in that - PATIENCE


Isn't that odd? I too noticed that when I was gone over a week and half during Thanksgiving.

Although I did some checking during that time, the checking was done on a Mac which does not have the Googlebar.

Serious question: Is their a slight possibility that our incessant checking of our SERPS at Google having a detrimental effect while the googlebar is active on our browser ???

[cbp]

Is their a slight possibility that our incessant checking of our SERPS at Google having a detrimental effect while the googlebar is active on our browser ???

Maybe that is the secret that no one has picked up about the Florida algorithm/filter :-)

If Google was tring to find a way to demote the over optimised sites, then maybe they make the assumption that webmasters with over optimised sites are a paranoid bunch and the check the rankings several times a day. By recording IP addresses against sites that are checked, maybe as well as a PR and a sort of 'relevancy score' they now have a "checks rankings too often" score that negativly impacts on rankings :-) hmmmmmm....

CBP