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indianbug
12-08-2003, 01:53 PM
Hi every body!

This is my first message on WebProWorld. I have few queries on Web Promotion!

1. What is the difference between submission by hand & submitters like web positioning gold/IBP?

2. I have been reading many messages jotted down by SEOs that submission to searchengines once is enough but I have also read many saying that submitting frequently helps websites on top listings! So please help me what to do?

3. Can i add commas in between the keywords? I read that maximum 3 commas are invited!

I hope I get my querries answered and do not get disappointed.

thanks

Indian Bug

Janet
12-09-2003, 05:19 PM
Hi Indianbug,

Welcome to the forum. Some answers for you based on my opinion:

1. Most search engines (particularly the large ones) do not allow automated submissions, or require you to pay an inclusion fee. This means that automated submission software does not have the value it once did. However these tools are still useful in that where a manual/paid submission is required they will take you to the correct page to do the submission manually. This means you waste less time having to search around for the submit page for each search engine.

2. Those who say you don't need to keep resubmitting are correct. Those who say you do need to resubmit frequently are usually those who would wish you to pay them to do this for you! This is myth that has come out of the early days of the search engines when, with poorer technology, it was not uncommon for listings to "drop out" from the SE's database and require resubmission. These days, if you "drop out" it is more likely to do with an algorithm change or spam penalty. In either event, simply resubmitting is not likely to help.

3. You can put commas or spaces between keywords in your meta tags. Don't spend too much time fretting about meta keywords though. Most (all?) of the major engines ignore them. Far more important is to use your keywords in the body text of the page, in your headings, TITLE tag, and link text.

Hope that helps.

Janet

TrafficProducer
12-09-2003, 05:25 PM
Yes! I'd like to know the answer too!

On problem is that each search engine may use different methods. So some could need submitting to say every month while others just require the once but increase ranking if that site has an updated. This may depend on whether or not that search engine uses a Spider to check listings.

Paid methods will usually override other methods.

As well as the above. Once listed do you need to suggest your link again?

Here are some
Tips (http://www.solutions.ukdots.com/advertising_methods.html).

Janet
12-09-2003, 05:51 PM
TrafficProducer,

Resubmitting will NOT increase your rankings.

chris_g
12-10-2003, 01:18 AM
Hi indianbug:

Janet pretty summed up how it works.

1) Manual submissions are better and safer that automated software.

2) Once your website is indexed the search engines will revist your pages every month on their own and they will follow links throughout your website and find all the other web pages on their own. There is almost never a reason to resubmit once you are indexed. Don't sweat about the meta tags at this point they are not that important.


3) You can leave commas in or out of a keyword tag. Build keyword tags mentioning your keywords only one or two times. Most search engines don't use the data in meta tags and other will either ignor or penalize websites that stuff them full of keywords. Only put words found on the actual page the tag is intended for.

chris_g
12-16-2003, 10:08 PM
One comment I didn't mention which is important is some search engine penalize your web page a few positions everytime you resubmit it. The penalty is temporary but if you keep resubmitting you keep aplying the penalty which does hurt your rankings.

So instead of helping its hurting.

Some top SEOs like Jill Whalen don't submit their customers at all, ever. They say allowing the search engine to find it on its home will get a better ranking.

I submit them manually once if they are not listed and never have problems