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Runawayrentals
12-06-2003, 04:02 AM
Well I am still waiting for this to all happen. I implemented a new domain. Though keeping the old domain, strictly with a 302 redirect to the new domain. Google as picke dup the new site, which was put in play end of Sept, and has for most part dropped the old domain. Problem I have is the index page is not showing up for main keywords that the old domain did. Nothing has changed with the pages. Though I have a PR 6, and good solid link inbound and outbound. I cant do 302 redirct on all my old domain pages as my site has about 1200+ pages. I am wondering if I am getting penalized for this, as google still picked up some of hte old dimain pages.

Anyone have any suggestions? I would really like to get back in the light. My traffic is doing farely well off all the interior pages, but lacking that strength I once had from the idnex page.

*shrug* maybe its just a time issue and with all the google changes etc... just hasnt really had a chance to catch up with it.

aardvarkads
12-06-2003, 04:57 AM
I asked Google about penalties for redirects (note: I sent this email to Google on Nov 2,2003 -- before they started dancing).

The statement from Google and my email to them are below:

RESPONSE FROM GOOGLE:

Thank you for your note. If you are redirecting several sites to one, we
recommend using HTTP 301 redirects on the less-desired sites. Our robot
understands and follows this type of redirect to find the desired site.

If we can assist you further, please let us know.

Regards,
The Google Team


MY EMAIL TO THEM:


I have six domains that redirect to my primary domain using an Apache
301 redirect:
RedirectMatch permanent (.*) http://myprimarydomain.com

I understand that Google may penalize for flat-out aliasing sites; and
I can understand your reasoning and applaud it.

However, I have been unable to find a definative answer regarding 301.
I have visited many discussion sites like webmasterworld.com and all of
the responses contradict each other. As with many Google issues, I
doubt anyone knows the real answer. So, Does Google penalize for 301
redirects?

I redirect these domains because they are either companies that I have
acquired or the name is a common misspelling of my primary domain. I am not trying to use deceptive SEO tactics.

Thanks
Mike


However, I don't have an answer to why your index page isn't showing up

minstrel
12-06-2003, 11:04 AM
(1) even if Google has updated it's directory for your site, it may be that your inbound links have not been updated, so the old pages are still being picked up for that reason if for no other. Ideally, a redirect on each page would be good - alternatively, for smaller sites contacting the inbound links and requesting an update would be helpful - doing either of those on a 1200 page site would be pretty scary.

(2) possibly a stupid question (I've always done redirects a different way) - what is the IIS equivalent of that Apache redirect for those of us on NT/2000 servers?

Runawayrentals
12-06-2003, 04:07 PM
aardvarkads... I mistyped and I do use 301 redirect. Back links are continueing to climb on my new domain, after yesterday's little whatever, I am over 300. In all everything is good, its just the index page that seems to be giving me the grief, as it seems a lot of the other pages are indexed and put in the right places. The index is indexed but rarely at all comes up in any searches.

minstrel.... IIS 301 redirect
<%
Response.Status = "301 Moved Permanently"
Response.addheader "Location", "http://www.yourdomain.com/newpageurl/"
Response.End
%>

minstrel
12-06-2003, 06:18 PM
IIS 301 redirect
<%
Response.Status = "301 Moved Permanently"
Response.addheader "Location", "http://www.yourdomain.com/newpageurl/"
Response.End
%>
Thanks... where is this code placed?

Runawayrentals
12-07-2003, 12:34 AM
sorry thats actually ASP code to do a 301 redirect

I do believe IIS has an option under "Internet Services" under the "Home Directory" tab, you can chose A redirection to URL and then also option to make it a permanent redirection below, also the new domain you want it redirected to.

LD
02-09-2012, 08:48 AM
The 302 redirection is under of black hat SEO and consider as spam in the search engine eyes.

Really? A nearly 9 year old thread and you resurrect it? What would make you think you are helping the OP when his/her last active post was in 2004??