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mememe
12-22-2004, 10:22 PM
Don't know if this is the right place to get an answer but maybe someone's had this odd problem before. Of a sudden, starting today, three of my pages are taking ten to fifteen seconds to download - with cable. These are fast pages, one only 8 seconds with a 28k modem, and they came up instantly as usual the night before. The rest of the pages on the site load normally, so far as I know. Website host doesn't know what the problem is and says those pages come up instantly for them. But I know it's not just me since a neighbor also using cable also has to wait for those pages to load. I've done nothing to those pages to make them load slow - why would I? And why three particular pages? Might anyone have a clue what's happening to my website? I've thought I might be being hacked. Wouldn't be the first time. I'd appreciate any knowledge from someone with a brain for this kind of thing.

Deep13
12-22-2004, 11:42 PM
site url?

is it the one which is in ur sig?

i checked it..worked fine for me..

Deep

mememe
12-23-2004, 06:41 AM
Hi Deep -

Yes, it's Viola Fair. The three items on the main menu taking so long to download are Meet a Ghost, Another Ghost and Site Map. I called the cable company - not my host - and they said those pages were presenting instantly. It's a mysterious quirk that a neighbor below me, using the same cable company, has the exact same problem on my website. Just doesn't add up. Maybe he shares a similar computer problem on his notebook, whatever that would be. Meanwhile, I'm going to investigate across town with someone using 56k.


Thank you so much for checking. I very appreciate that. If those pages were loading slow for everyone there wouldn't be any point in the website since they're theme-essential on a site of at least 600 pages. As for my end, I don't have a clue. I'm not a geek and don't want to be. Matters like tcp stack, etc. are way beyond me. Only thing I know to try is delete those pages and load them again. But what point if they download all right for everyone but my neighbor and I? That or face the nightmare, again, of trying to find a good host, though I don't know how this odd problem could be theirs. If I find out the answer to this strange phenomenon I'll post it.

Again, I'm most grateful. Let 2005 be exceedingly prosperous for you.

mememe
12-23-2004, 07:35 AM
Hi Deep -

Yes, it's Viola Fair. The pages on the menu taking so long to download are Meet a Ghost, Another Ghost and Site Map. I called the cable company, which is not my host, to see if, perchance, a tech could lend a clue. They said the download on those pages was instant for them as well, but had no clues. This is problem most odd since my neighbor below, using the same cable company, has the exact same problem on my website, though no one else seems to. Maybe he shares a similar computer problem on his notebook, like tcp stack, whatever, who knows. Just doesn't add up. Meanwhile I'm going to investigate across town with someone using 56k.

Thank you so much for checking. I very appreciate that. If those pages were presenting so slowly for everyone it would render the entire website nonsensical since they're essential to a few of the ways I've approached art theory on that website, and themes interweaving throughout more than 600 pages.

If I discover the cause of this strange phenomenon I'll post it. I can't be the only webmaster who has experienced this. Or can I?

Again, I am most grateful that you took your valuable time to look. Let 2005 be an exceedingly prosperous year for you.

me

mikmik
12-23-2004, 09:04 AM
Ya, they are all the same for me also. The only similarity/difference in those slow pages you report, is that they are root level pages, but that would affect the site index and Lobe Probe, plus your home page!

You aren't using any server side code, so it isn't that.

No, I can't see anything in the source code. I noticed that you reference external scripts - Google ads - and some remote images, but I don't know, really. All the pages look consistent!

I checked With FireFox.

Weird :O)

cyanide
12-23-2004, 11:33 AM
Are you experiencing this kind of thing by visiting any other website?

Since you and your neighbour and no one else is seeing this problem, I might have your ISP run some diagnostic/speed checks with the incoming line to your complex

Deep13
12-23-2004, 12:00 PM
hi again mememe,

To cross check the speed you can check ur site using any of the free proxies available..

www.megaproxy.com is very good site...

2nd thing you can check your site loadtime using some free scripts available online

http://www.netmechanic.com/toolbox/html-code.htm
http://www.1-hit.com/all-in-one/tool.loading-time-checker.htm

both seemed to be good..
i checked ur site in both the scripts load time seems to be good..

as cyanide suggested, the problem could be with ur ISP...

and yes last thing...you have a great holidays and wish new you a very happy new year ahead :)

Deep

mememe
12-23-2004, 08:37 PM
Once again, thank you all. That's an excellent suggestion as to the line. I'd almost put money on that. However, this is odd:

I check those pages with someone using DSL. They load all right.

I check the supposed slowest one at 1-Hit. They tell me 7 seconds for 56k, 3 seconds faster than what FrontPage says. No problem.

I check the next slowest at Net Mechanic. They tell me 12 seconds for 56k. No problem. But then they say 10 seconds for high-speed. Huh? If it's a line problem maybe they have a secret office hidden underground directly below my neighbor and I.

Well, I'm just going to shrug this problem for a while, and a few others. Maybe they'll repair themselves like the television does, and the toaster, if you threaten force.

Thanks for the great references. Discovered a transparent gif maker along the way that I've been looking for, without looking for, for a couple of years.

Anybody knows webproworld is about the best web development forum on the internet. So, again, thank you very very much and do have a sweet season.

me

cyanide
12-23-2004, 09:11 PM
The problem with many of these online website speed checkers is that most of them are not accurate.
Also depending on the connection, speed and location of that speed-checker webpage can influence the results.

Glad you are enjoying the forum.

Deep13
12-23-2004, 11:37 PM
The problem with many of these online website speed checkers is that most of them are not accurate.
Also depending on the connection, speed and location of that speed-checker webpage can influence the results.

Glad you are enjoying the forum.

you are right but he can get basic idea about the load time...

when i checked his site on netmechanic it showed me site load time around 14 seconds and when i checked it on the other site, it showed me around 7 seconds so from this i got an idea that nothing wrong with the site, if both would have showed load time more than say 20 seconds then the problem could have been with the server...

Regards
Deep

mememe
01-06-2005, 10:55 AM
I've discovered what the slow-load problem was. It was javascript links to nonexistent web pages. I was affiliating with a couple dating services which fed the links from their own server. When those websites suddenly ceased to exist I wasn't told (both Yahoo! enterprises - thanks Yahoo!). The pages wouldn't load until the search for those dead links timed out. Now that they're gone the pages load normally.

Thanks again.

Me