Please help with the suggestions: How to hide words from SE?

[gregmil]

All sources say that SEs are not able to read the text in the javascript.
I tryed to use this to hide recurring words in the directory I am trying to build.
I tryed following:

<a href=""....>
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">

document.write("Business Profile);

</SCRIPT>
</a>

instead of

Business Profile ("")

I tryed it with the Meta Tag Analyzer. Result: Metacrawler see the link and count occurances.

I tryed JS version:

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">

document.write(business_profile);

</SCRIPT>
In JS file I had this
var business_profile = "Business Profile"


Result is the same. Anyone can advice something?

[sudhani]

[quote="gregmil"]All sources say that SEs are not able to read the text in the javascript.
quote]

Google can Read and Follow .js

[MathsIsFun]

Sudhani - can you elaborate? I can see your point. If a browser can handle it, why not a robot. But it is a common belief that Google does not follow java links for example - any ideas why or why not?

Gregmil - just be careful of Google's guidelines ( http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html ) "Don't deceive your users, or present different content to search engines than you display to users."

Having said that, why not put the words in a graphic?

[sfowler]

why do you want to hide them anyway? It is perfectly logical that a directory will have recurring terms, same as a telephone book. Here you will find "address" and "number" next to every name. There would be something wrong with it otherwise.

[gregmil]

why do you want to hide them anyway? It is perfectly logical that a directory will have recurring terms, same as a telephone book. Here you will find "address" and "number" next to every name. There would be something wrong with it otherwise.

Well... you are right! BUT... you are human and your logic is the logic of human. Boats should be as smart as yourself, but they are not. Do they differentiate DIRECTORY from other types of sites?

They just calculate the dancity of the certain keywords. Example: I have the screen in category "Auto Electronics". I spent bunch of time and money to make it populated by related keywords.
What do you think is number one keyword in the list?
Don't even try... The word "pro".

pro - 33 - 3.72%

Is there such word in the text? NOPE!!!
There are 20 occurances of "Business Profile" + 9 occurances of the word "product" + a few more in link descriptions.

The same word "profile". 20 occurances.
The word "list" - 26 times. This word is a part of "Add to Watch List" link recuring 20 times + Wish List (feature of the site) + a few more ("Listings", "List your Business").
Some more recuring "cuties":
"Add" from the same "Add to Watch List" - 20
20 "Inquire" + 20 "Now" from the "Inquire Now"...

If I would be able to hide 3-5 phrases, usefull keyword dancity would jumped...

That's why I am trying to hide some useless ones.

Thanks for you attempt to help!

[sfowler]

I think the problem is your software for calculating keyword density. What do you mostly get found for? I suspect it is not for "pro". The bots are not as daft as you think. Getting two or three inbound links with the right keyword anchor text will probably do you more good than messing around wit htrying to hide things. Just write it the way you would want to read it.

[Mac 5]

I saw a tip in WPW to convert your text to Unicode value.
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=29283&highlight=

http://www.mikezilla.com/exp0012.html
Type your text in the ASCII Text box then hit encode button. Copy paste the Unicode Value and insert in in the html of your webpage. The browser will display the text correctly but engines will see the Unicode.

[jawn_tech]

I wonder if a word was divided with excessive html, that the SE might see it as two unidentifiable words.

For example, "quarterback", could be divided as "quar" and "terback" with font code, without leaving a space.

So it would look like this:


<font face="Arial">quar</font><font face="Arial">terback</font></p>

Just a hypothesis. I've never looked into this, as I've never had a need to hide words from SE's before.

I wonder if a word was divided with excessive html, that the SE might see it as two unidentifiable words.


I may be mistaken, but are search engines becoming more accurate at looking for natural language flow? If so, would they penalize for unidentifiable words that break such flow? I also read that some search engines discount or ignore conjuctions within sentences. If so, how do they see the difference between natural language & keyword stuffing?

[jawn_tech]

Great point, cpw3. :)

This is a different mindset than I'm accustomed to, much like the 'how do I decrease PR' thread we've had a month or so ago. This is a case where 'un-stuffing' keywords can be seen as 'stuffing', if not careful, lol.

I may set up a throw-away site to test this and see how it turns out, using non-sensical words (guaranteed top SERP). I'll report my findings in a few days when it gets indexed. If other suggested methods emerge, I'll try those too, because now my curiosity is really piqued.