Has Your Yahoo Traffic Increased Recently?

[mrrobertstv]

Nothing has changed with my search engine stats

Google 9947 68.2 % 10568 69.2 %
Yahoo 2153 14.7 % 2156 14.1 %

[anablake]

I've noticed a gradual increase on Yahoo traffic as well as our rankings moving up to the first two pages in the past month.

The pages that are moving up haven't really been changed that much at all as far as SEO is concerned either. I thought is was just us here but maybe not.

Perhaps Yahoo is doing some changes as well?

Ana

[rovers]

my traffic from Yahoo search had quadrupled my Google search traffic.


You've got a damn good website which is very easy to use and you deserve credit for...
Yahoo sees that......Google doesn't!

Yahoo's catching up on Google big time and they don't even see it!

POWER TO YAHOO I SAY!

[ktsparkman]

I'm perplexed as to what makes Yahoo tick. My most recent web documentary http://www.organtransplants.org was a Yahoo Pick, is in the Yahoo directory and ranks in the top 10 or 15 on Google for key terms like organ donation or organ transplants. However, it's barely on the radar of Yahoo search. Any suggestions.

[Andilinks]

Yahoo has gradually been getting better, but is still abysmal. The most recent ratios:

Google 4025
Yahoo 270
MSN Search 125
AOL Search 65
Google.fr 62
AltaVista 16
AllTheWeb 7
Teoma 5
iWon 2
Overture 2
Lycos 1
ixQuick 1
Excite 1

[Simar]

I have also been observing that there is an overall growth of about 10% - 15% over last 2 weeks... Largely from Yahoo and on those keywords where positioing on Googlr is bad...

Simar

[Nirav_Thakker2003]

HI Everybody,

We have nothing difference in yahoo search engine. And nothing difference in visitor and rank. What can i do for ranking? Please help me.


Good Day


Nirav

[roam_dx]

Hi,

I run a 200 page website that has been around for many years and was very well ranked for all it's keywords. Then it was offline for about 6 months and all but fell out of all the search engines rankings specifically Yahoo and Google.

Well, I got the site back up a little over a month ago. Heres the scenario -

Google is still the highest referring SE but the website doesn't even show up for its main keyword. I get a lot of traffic through related keywords appearing in the page content.

Yahoo, within 15 days I had regained my old ranking position on Yahoo for the main keyword which is at the bottom of page 1. But the traffic is still almost half of Google's.

I have no directory listing, no page rank or link backs anymore...well very few anyway...

I think Yahoo's getting bigger and faster than Google and very soon, unless...

Google's got something discreetly stuck up up it's sleeve as it usually does. Also, Google used to be a good friend and I haven't given up hope on it.

[dracula]

I have experienced some weeks after Yahoo dropped Google that all my main sites with Google PR5 and heavy traffic dropped out of Yahoo, but to my surprise some of my secondary sites with no much traffic and hardly any links to it, not maximised for keywords now achieved first 10 placements in Yahoo. To me it looks like that Yahoo randomly picked some sites regardless popularity .

// Rudi

[misha]

"Curious, I recently viewed my web stats & to my astonishment my traffic from Yahoo search had quadrupled my Google search traffic."

Hi Maximilian,

We have a small crystal shop and have been trying to succeed with Google and Yahoo for years. While Google keeps sending us trafic through less important keywords, we've experienced an unexpected increase from Yahoo in the last few weeks on both "difficult" and less frequented keywords. We have been optimizing (in our view) equally well for both, but it seemed as if Yahoo has suddenly decided that we are "for real".

Until I saw your post, I thought we have finally figured it out, but now I see that it's probably caused by some recent change of policies. Well, no complaint, I just like to know what it was that we did so well :-)

Thanks for the post!

Misha
FeelBohemian.com

[espectations]

My customers and myself definitely get better rankings in Yahoo and I am convinced our sales result from that as well - I tracked it.

Earlier this year during the SEO congress there was an interview held with one of the Search managers at Yahoo (Jon Glick) about the new search engine etc.

I quote one question and answer (which in my opinion might have a lot to do with what your are seeing) from this article:

"o Mike:

On the subject of meta data, let me just go off at a little tangent here. Tim [Mayer] mentioned to me yesterday that meta keywords are back again! After all that time away, now they're alive and well at Yahoo! search...

o Jon:

Yes we do use meta keywords. So let me touch on meta tags real fast. We index the meta description tag. It counts similar to body text. It's also a good fallback for us if there's no text on the page for us to lift an abstract to show to users. It won't always be used because we prefer to have the users search terms in what we show. So if we find those in the body text we're going to show that so that people can see a little snippet of what they're going to see when they land on that page. Other meta tags we deal with are things like the noindex, nofollow, nocache we respect those. For the meta keywords tag... well, originally it was a good idea. To me it's a great idea which unfortunately went wrong because its so heavily spammed. It's like, the people who knew how to use it, also knew how to abuse it! What we use it for right now is... I'd explain it as match and not rank. Let me give a better description of what that really means. Obviously, for a page to show up for a users query, it has to contain all the terms that the user types, either on the page, through the meta data, or anchor text in a link. So, if you have a product which is frequently misspelled. If you're located in one community, but do business in several surrounding communities, having the names for those communities or those alternate spellings in your meta keywords tag means that your page is now a candidate to show up in that search. That doesn't say that it'll rank, but at least it's considered. Whereas, if those words never appear then it can't be considered. "

Very long article but well worth the read....
http://www.e-marketing-news.co.uk/april_2004.html

[jenvil]

Very long article but well worth the read....
http://www.e-marketing-news.co.uk/april_2004.html

I would like to highlight a couple of points about the keyword tag discussion in the article:

Jon Glick elaborates on 3 features of the keyword tag in the next paragraphs:

1) He is emphatic that the keywords in the tag are of relevence only to matching enquiries not to any measure of page ranking.

2) Phrases should be seperated with commas.

3) Over long strings of words will raise a red flag


Each keyword is an individual token separated by commas. So that's that. You want to separate these things with commas and not just put one long string of text. The more keywords that are put in and the more they're repeated, the much larger the chance our spam team is going to want to check out that page. It doesn't mean that page is going to get any specific judgement. But it is very much a red flag. For best practice you just need to remember it's for matching - not ranking. Repeating the same word 20 times is only going to raise a red flag... It doesn't increase your likelihood of showing up on any given set of search results. It's just a risk with no benefit.

o Mike:

So I could put, I don't know... er... for instance, ‘laptop computers, desktop computers, palm computers...’

o Jon:

Exactly, and, of course, since each of those is separated by commas, then ‘laptop computers’ will count for ‘laptop computers’ and not ‘laptop’ or ‘computers’ separately. So doing it like that means that you're not going to be penalised for keyword spamming on the word ‘computers’.

What does everyone think about how Google would handle such a comma seperated keyword tag? Would they ignore it completly or could it raise a red flag?

[smakyyy]

I have actually experienced a high increase in traffic from yahoo.also am number 1 and #2 on yahoo - so maybe that helps...

[Nirav_Thakker2003]

Hi


Sir,

You have good experience in search engine's ranking system. You also know how to increase rank. I know this b'cos I join in webproworld. I want to launch my site. But I dont know how to submit site in google and other like yahoo and etc search engine. Please tell me how to submit my url in yahoo and all search engine.and i want to know how to all pages catch google. Please tell me fast.
my email address is nirav_thakker2003@yahoo.com
Nice Day

Nirav








I do recall that about 5 or 6 weeks ago, I submitted to this link I found offering free submission to Yahoo Search at:

http://submit.search.yahoo.com/free/request


Yahoo states:
Enter the full URL, including the http:// prefix (for example, http://www.yahoo.com) of the site you would like to submit. Enter only the top-level page in your site, our crawler will explore the rest of your site from there. We will automatically detect and remove dead links on an ongoing basis.

Please expect a delay of several weeks before your URL is crawled.

[kikkertm]

I noticed an fairly good increase on one of my sites. almost all traffic on that site comes from Yahoo (Google seems to fairly much ignore it).

Because of most traffic coming from Y!, I also noticed another weird thing. It seems my rankings are going up and down with fairly regular intervals. If I look at a specific keyword in my logs, sometimes this word ranks #2 but a few days later it is nowhere to be found. This cycle seems to happen about every 2 weeks or so. This triggered a thought and I was hopnig for some feedback on this; Would search engines (and searchers) benefit from SERPS that cycle ? It always seemed unfair to me that the big sites, for the important keywords ALWAYS show up high, while new comers struggle to get a good ranking. This is not good news for searchers as the old boys are often much more expensive then newcomers (I'm refering to markets like domain name registration now.. Networksolutions - $35/y - we $7.95/y - but they have been around for years. I'd rather find me !). That system of almost static listings makes the big boys richer and the choice for the searcher smaller.

How about an algo that cycles through a selection of good quality sites ? Everyone is then better off (except the big boys but they can handle it). The cycles would mean that someone now ranking on page 4 would next week rank on page 1 for a few days at least ?

Any thoughts ?

[node-net]

How about an algo that cycles through a selection of good quality sites ? Everyone is then better off (except the big boys but they can handle it). The cycles would mean that someone now ranking on page 4 would next week rank on page 1 for a few days at least ?

Life's not fair!

[kikkertm]

Life's not fair!

Don't really understand the remark ? I guess you don't agree then ?

Wonder what happened with Maximum-Beauty.com remarks ?

[node-net]

your comment seems to imply that you think the search engines should give everyone equal coverage.

They are pimitive beasts the search engines.

[Jayms]

For my most popular search term:
Google #3
Yahoo #14-16 some days, #43-45 on other days

Most of my traffic still comes from google.

[sem-seo-pro]

Hello everyone,

I dont post often enough but this post and another had me slapping the keys...

On the Yahoo Google debate..

Are you as webmasters seos attuned to which search engine drives traffic and which one drives buyers ???

Would your clients care who you prefer ??? None of mine do...they prefer I know how to drive what they're looking for ...visits or buyers..

I looked at google about two months ago looking for some title tag clues...while I was there I noticed google still had meta description tags but no meta keywords... This was in the page source for the google groups, news, images etc.

I went tonight and those meta description tags bit the dust, removed from the coding, gone. So that tends to lead me to believe google dumped them both for themselves and as for having any relevancy. ( This will be a joy explaining to clients )

Here is something else I noticed googlebot is taking the first path to text it sees and following that direction to make it's crawl..left to rightm top to bottom or down and up, left to right. I spent the weekend putting a space above my menu on the left hand sde of my pages so the bot would crawl left to right to pick up my Heading tags.

I have seen frontpage listings with the meta description in the results listing, site links from left hand nav in the results listing, and body content in the results listings for the same keyword terms.

Googles last update seemed to be a spam reduction attempt to appease investors in their IPO.. their time to index sites new to the web has moved over two months typically closer to three, and yet yahoo has a sign up saying "we are two weeks behind in our indexing"

As far as yahoo using meta keywords for content matching...from what I learned it was always that way to begin with..if the keywords weren't in your body content they did not belong in the metas...If they were in the metas and not in the content you got dinged a notch for it...I still think it holds true and yahoo in a way is saying that is the case.

Maybe its a corp culture switch...google becomes the next microsoft..shutting its doors to all the prying eyes....yahoo becomes google opens the doors wide open, ...microsoft becomes linux .....This is too deep for me to continue on with ...

I always felt it better to spread the pages across as many SEs and directories as possible that are of signifigance...those listings are one way links back to your site most times...if I can get one targted buyer from splat search to hit a clients site and make a purchase, its still profit in their pocket..

In the theme of the election...one vote does count....one buying customer from any search engine or directory counts too...did you know for example dogpile, and aol are better search engines to market to kids with ???

Hope this helps and makes sense.

Prepare for the holidays it should be a fun relaxing time..

Clint

PS notice the signature??