Check out this trick [Archive]

janeth

11-14-2003, 08:22 AM

I read this on another forum and now I can not find where I saw it.
But anyway this is a neat trick if you do a search for "custom web site" we should be ranked number one. Look at the arrow pointing to our name.
We did it by putting & # 9 6 5 8 ; in the title tag.
We did it a couple weeks ago and our traffic has doubled since we have done it.
Just remove the spaces in the code below and it will work.

arrow
& # 9 6 5 8 ;
star
& # 9 7 8 8 ;
Black Smile
& # 9 7 8 7 ;
White Smile
& # 9 7 8 6 ;

I know we are getting more hits now then we have ever gotten before and this is the only thing we have changed this month.

rlrouse

11-14-2003, 11:11 AM

Neat trick.

minstrel

11-14-2003, 11:15 AM

this is a neat trick...

shhhh.... everyone else might hear... next time, just tell me, okay? that way, it will just be you and me, each at the top of our categories...

:-)

But seriously, if it works, why do you think that is? has it changed your ranking at all? or is it just that it is another way of drawing attention to your site when people look at a long list of results from a search?

rlrouse

11-14-2003, 11:17 AM

It would probably draw attention to the listing, make it stand out from the rest.

janeth

11-14-2003, 12:35 PM

It draws attention to the site. Our hits have more then doubled in the last two weeks.

It is because the arrow which I was about to take off after I saw it. I think it makes our site stand out in the rankings and causes more people to click on it.

I was scared at first that we may drop in the ranking but the ranking has actually gotten better but I think that is due to our links being added every day.

Anyway I'm going to add it to every page now.

Jurgen

11-15-2003, 01:08 AM

Hello Janeth,

At first I did not know what you are talking about. I do use netscape (still some people do.... )
I did see your arrow in the explorer and opera. In netscape only a "question mark" shows up.... :-)

I did apply your "neat" trick in my home page. Let's see what comes up.

Jurgen
www.absolutelyfabulousflowers.com

cbp

11-15-2003, 01:21 AM

Can the moderators please delete this thread? :-)

I like the idea and don't want too many people doing it :-)

CBP

busy1

11-15-2003, 05:38 PM

I tried to place the code in my title but I have a website title feature where I just type in regular words, & it edits the html in the title for me.

So by placing the code in of course I see the code and so does everyone else. I can edit the body and add tags but can't seem to html the mega tag title, description, or keywords.
I have a spot I type in and it converts it. Does anyone know anyway around this? I can switch between 3 editors from basic to advanced but I still don't seem to have any control over the title, description or keywords html.
Thanks,
Lynn

minstrel

11-15-2003, 05:59 PM

I tried to place the code in my title but I have a website title feature where I just type in regular words, & it edits the html in the title for me.
Hi, Lynn:

Is this a web-based editor, like the ones you would use to create pages on sites like Yahoo/Geocities? If so, you are basically supplying information to a template editor and you have little or no control over the html code it generates.

On the other hand, if your editor is a program on your own computer, look to see if it has an "HTML" option, which allows you to go in and directly edit the HTML. The major editors like Dreamweaver and FrontPage have this feature, as do many shareware editors. If you are using a shareware program on your own computer that does not have this feature, you can open the file in Notepad and edit the HTML that way.

busy1

11-15-2003, 06:12 PM

Hi,
I use citymax.com. I can't work offline only online if that adds anything to help.
Its not a template. I created the site with tables using the active editor. I can opt to use basic editor and write my own html, but I still can't seem to touch the title, description, or keywords with any of the editor choices, just the body.
Maybe if I erased the title that I have now in my title bar that converts to html and put in my own tags in the body it would work?
Hope this makes sense.
Thanks Again
Lynn

minstrel

11-16-2003, 12:34 AM

I use citymax.com. I can't work offline only online if that adds anything to help.
Its not a template. I created the site with tables using the active editor. I can opt to use basic editor and write my own html, but I still can't seem to touch the title, description, or keywords with any of the editor choices, just the body.
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with citymax but they may well put limits on titles, tags, and such.. sorry I can't help you with this one.

busy1

11-16-2003, 12:48 AM

Janeth,
Looked at your sites "View Source" and can't find the neat trick anymore.
Did you take it out because of concern.
Just wondering.
Lynn

minstrel

11-16-2003, 01:01 AM

Janeth, Looked at your sites "View Source" and can't find the neat trick anymore.
Did you take it out because of concern.
Hi, Lynn:

I won't try to speak for Janeth but it's possible - while you're waiting for her reply, have a look at this thread which might be relevant:
Something Big is happening at Google (http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=8585)

busy1

11-16-2003, 01:19 AM

Hi Minstrel,
Thanks for the heads up. I think I'll wait on
"neat trick" for now. :-)
Lynn

minstrel

11-16-2003, 01:24 AM

Thanks for the heads up. I think I'll wait on "neat trick" for now.
Don't misunderstand me - I have no idea whether the "trick" has anything to do with anything, although I suspect not because it was probably too recent an addition. All I meant to suggest was that with the Google adjustment going on it is clear Janeth was worried about the impact on her website and business and may well have decided not to take any chances. As I said, I don't want to speak for her and I have no idea whether Google would have any objection at all to non-ascii characters in a title.

busy1

11-16-2003, 01:31 AM

Hi Minstrel,
I wasn't really thinking that the codes were bad.
I just meant heads up in that I will check to see whats happening on google with my own position and wait on the code as I thought maybe Janeth might be doing. No misunderstanding here.
Lynn

busy1

11-16-2003, 01:35 AM

What do these tags mean? How do they help?

<META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,follow">
<META NAME="Googlebot" CONTENT="index,follow">

Thanks,
Lynn

minstrel

11-16-2003, 02:00 AM

<META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,follow">
<META NAME="Googlebot" CONTENT="index,follow">

They are instructions to spiders (web bots) to index a page and follow any links outward from the page to index other pages on your site: the first is a general instruction for any spider, while the second is specific to Google.

There are differing opinions on whether these help or hinder search engine optimization. It has been pointed out that bots already know how to index and follow web pages and links, so basically this is the default. Whether including them can be harmful is debatable but they probably don't do you any good and they are additional dead weight for the spiders to scan or for a visitor to download from your site. The tags are really only useful if there are pages on your website that you do NOT want indexed or "followed", in which case the syntax would be "noindex, nofollow" or perhaps "index, nofollow".

busy1

11-16-2003, 02:14 AM

Thanks Minstrel.

janeth

11-16-2003, 08:38 AM

Hi everyone the code is back on the page.

My site took a hard hit with Google it had nothing to do with the code but more to do with an over use of <h> tags.

I had been trying to see how many key words I could get the home page ranked for and had about 2,000 words and a lot of header tags and I do not think Google liked it. We still rank good for all the key words except the ones I had in the header tags.

rlrouse

11-16-2003, 06:19 PM

can you explain the eyeball attention effect?

I think anything out of the ordinary tends to draw attention, and since the arrows are rarely seen (up till now at least), they do draw ones attention.

If half the webmasters with sites in Google did it, I don't think it would have much affect.

jackson992

11-16-2003, 06:20 PM

Does anyone know if these are the only 3 things we could use? Is there maybe a list of things similar we could use? Thank you Janeth I had been wondering how my friends had done this trick:P

minstrel

11-16-2003, 06:40 PM

My personal opinion, based on, I hasten to add, absolutely NO data or supporting evidence of any kind, is that if this technique becomes at all widespread it would draw penalties from the search engines. It's a neat idea but essentially what it is is an attempt to provide your site with an advantage (over other sites offering similar products or services) that is not based on content or "importance (however that is defined by a particular SE) - in the past, web sites using techniques perceived to be in this category have been penalized.

luvdavy

11-16-2003, 06:40 PM

janeth

11-16-2003, 08:14 PM

I'm sorry everyone I tried to make a couple changes on the site and took it off line while I was doing it.

janeth

11-16-2003, 08:32 PM

Hi everyone,
As far as it hurting your site so far we are still ranked good as a matter of fact from what we are seeing now it looks like we have just about all our key words back and a couple new ones want be for sure until about Wed.

The site was down because minstrel and others where giving be a hard time about things we where doing. So I had to make a couple changes.

Thanks for the emails I got about 15 emails from people telling me the site was down. Thanks so much.

I'm not sure what other things you can do I'm sure there are more.

The arrow draws your attention a lot of people think maybe Google put it there or something I do not know what they think but I know it makes the site stand out and that makes people click on it.

Like I said before we have been getting a lot more hits and someone else sent me an email and said they where getting more hits also.

ReadyCompanies as far as changing things on your site it does help to let the search engines know there is new information there. It want help you rank better but it does keep Google coming around.

We try a lot of new stuff almost every week with the site so it helps to see what Goolge will do when they see the changes.

We also try to add two new pages everyday. We are trying to catch rlrouse

rlrouse

11-16-2003, 08:57 PM

We also try to add two new pages everyday. We are trying to catch rlrouse

At the rate you're going it won't take long... I'm glad your site is back up Janeth. You had several of us a little worried about you...

janeth

11-16-2003, 09:08 PM

Hi rlrouse,
I got a little worried also the internet conection was no good I changed the www folder and could not get it to change back.

I now have the arrow on every page though.

As soon as everyone starts doing it I will take it off and then I will be the only one with out an arrow

minstrel

11-16-2003, 11:58 PM

Does anyone know if these are the only 3 things we could use? Is there maybe a list of things similar we could use?
Yes - see Character entity references in HTML 4 (http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/sgml/entities.html#h-24.3). For more sources and information, do a search on Google for "html ascii codes".

What the heck - I figured I might as well play too so I just managed to insert the Greek psi symbol (representing psychology) - matches my logo :-)

See here (www.psychlinks.ca/index.htm).

janeth

11-17-2003, 12:03 AM

Hi minstrel

How many different ones did you find?
This is what we have so far but they look better in the searches in Yahoo and Google

Ψ

►

☼

☻

☺

janeth

11-17-2003, 12:09 AM

I think minstrel got the best one.

Maybe we should all do his.

luvdavy

11-17-2003, 12:29 AM

Must be something wrong with me...LOL...all I see is question marks still...

Jan

minstrel

11-17-2003, 12:34 AM

luvdavy

11-17-2003, 12:38 AM

It is hard to say what will work or what will not work. What we do is try and fine tune the pages for the customers. (snip) I think if you work on the site for your customers and work on the links for traffic then Google will do the rest on there on.
I can't think of any better way to summarize the best advice than this...

I used to would have agreed with this. If I get my key phrases back, I will again. If I don't, I think I'll go back to being a secretary...:-)

Jan

minstrel

11-17-2003, 12:41 AM

I think minstrel got the best one. Maybe we should all do his.
Hey! Now cut that out! :-)

But I have to admit - it's kinda cool:

"Ψ PsychLinks: Dr. David J. Baxter, Psychologist, Ottawa"

(and by the way, Carju1, the "J" in my name, unlike the "J" in "Homer J. Simpson", stands for Julian)

luvdavy

11-17-2003, 01:00 AM

David, if that is you in your avatar, you LOOK just like a psychologist...chuckle.

That is not an insult, either. I greatly admire "mind doctors". Maybe you can tell me why I am obsessed with Davy Jones....hahaha...

Jan

minstrel

11-17-2003, 01:17 AM

David, if that is you in your avatar, you LOOK just like a psychologist
Yep... that's no avatar... that's the real me... ;-)

Maybe you can tell me why I am obsessed with Davy Jones....hahaha...
I think you meant to say "muahahaha!" But, that aside, tell me more about this Davy Jones thing... I assume you don't mean the former member of the Monkees, or the birth name of David Bowie... what is it you visualize when you think of Davy Jones? Does it happen often?

DID YOU SAY, "EVERY HOUR"!!! Wow! that's really weird!

(oops... sorry 'bout that... I wasn't supposed to say that out loud, was I...)

luvdavy

11-17-2003, 02:01 AM

Sniff...well, YEAH...Davy Jones from the Monkees...
But why Muwhaha instead of hahaha?

Doctor, I have it bad. I've been following the man for 4 years now...spending every dime on his concerts...going to horse races that he's in...I even have the number 2 website for Davy in Google.
http://luvdavy.tripod.com/Frontstreet/djmefrontst.jpg

Tell, me Doc....is there hope for me? I just flew from Myrtle Beach to Beavertown, PA last weekend to a concert. My condo is decorated in early Monkee style...My family and friends (well, no not my friends...they are all Davy nuts too) but everyone else thinks I need to be hospitalized....

He just came on tv..A&E...sigh...another small fix for the week....

Jan

luvdavy

11-17-2003, 02:05 AM

PS...the little gadget you put between your psych-link thing looks more like a well deserved little pitch-fork than it does anything else...
(muwhahahahaha) :-)

Jan

minstrel

11-17-2003, 02:29 AM

Sniff...well, YEAH...Davy Jones from the Monkees...
gasp! it's worse than I could ever have imagined!

But why Muwhaha instead of hahaha?
it sounds more sinister...

Doctor, I have it bad. I've been following the man for 4 years now...spending every dime on his concerts...going to horse races that he's in
he still has concerts????? This is bad... this is very bad... and those horse races... is he the jockey? the horse? the rabbit? what??

I even have the number 2 website for Davy in Google.
http://luvdavy.tripod.com/Frontstreet/djmefrontst.jpg
omigod! you mean to say there's more than one website for him?

Tell, me Doc....is there hope for me?

let's see... what's the best way to put this? no...

everyone else thinks I need to be hospitalized....
listen to them... I beg you... it's your only hope...

He just came on tv..A&E...sigh...another small fix for the week
"small" is right... what is he? 33 inches high?

minstrel

11-17-2003, 02:31 AM

PS...the little gadget you put between your psych-link thing looks more like a well deserved little pitch-fork than it does anything else... (muwhahahahaha)
now you're getting it... and as for that pitchfork thing, it's all about "transference" - sort of a "devil or angel" thing... :-)

luvdavy

11-17-2003, 04:09 AM

he still has concerts????? This is bad... this is very bad... and those horse races... is he the jockey? the horse? the rabbit? what??

**Grunt** He's the owner of the racehorses.
(Mike Nesmith quote..."What a maroon!")
He DID however get his jockey license and WON a race in England when he was the tender age of 50 years old, I'll have you know. We are so very proud of our sweet baboo...:-)

omigod! you mean to say there's more than one website for him?

Well, there are 117,000 PAGES for him, according to Google. I think there's probably about 25 sites for him alone, and maybe another 25-30 for the Monkees as a whole. We are a dedicated bunch.

let's see... what's the best way to put this? no...

How can you say that??? boohoo...and I was a believer....

"small" is right... what is he? 33 inches high? How could you? He's 5'3"!!!! And still beautiful! We love him! I love him! Doolay Rahley Ronday Doolay Ron Ron....err...I want to be FREE!!!
I'm Gonna Buy Me a Dog! Cheer up sleepy Jean!!!

Oops...someone's at the door...maybe it's him....
That's funny...looks like some kind of flashing lights in the parking lot....????

This is not the result of Monkee-mania. This is what Google's dance has done to me...
Google...look what you've done to me...
Me..and my whole world....
Google...you've brought the sun to me...
With your algorhythm...you did it Google....

sigh....

busy1

11-17-2003, 05:54 AM

Hi again,
The trick showed a ? for a check mark. Anyone have this problem.
Thanks,
Lynn

janeth

11-17-2003, 07:22 AM

It depends on which browser your looking in and also some of my words are ? and some are the arrow I think as time goes on it will all change to the arrow

busy1

11-17-2003, 07:54 AM

Thanks Janeth,
I have learned so much just neat stuff from all of you seo experts. :)
Lynn

jackson992

11-17-2003, 02:16 PM

Is there a way to see what it will look like?

I would like to use the $ sign:)

&#164

maniactive

11-17-2003, 03:22 PM

Call me timid.

I'm hesitant to use this trick, even though it makes the listing stand out. Why? Because it interferes with my belief in "high keyword prominence in the title tags is a factor that Google likes."

I know, it's only seven lousy characters in front of my keyword phrase, but given the current Google dance (which favored hundreds all but two of my keywords): I don't want to do anything that has the potential to make the Google Gods cry: "Foul! Sinner! You are banished!"

And oh yeah, if everybody starts doing this, I can almost predict their mass evacuation from the listings (not to mention rankings). While Google God is not swift, he can be unmerciful to perceived transgressors.

Anyone else in the forum as timid as me?

minstrel

11-17-2003, 03:42 PM

Is there a way to see what it will look like? I would like to use the $ sign:)
&#164
you have to add a semicolon to the end, like this:

¤

(except apparently you have the wrong number - 164 <> $)

minstrel

11-17-2003, 03:46 PM

I'm hesitant to use this trick, even though it makes the listing stand out. Why? Because it interferes with my belief in "high keyword prominence in the title tags is a factor that Google likes." I know, it's only seven lousy characters in front of my keyword phrase, but given the current Google dance (which favored hundreds all but two of my keywords): I don't want to do anything that has the potential to make the Google Gods cry: "Foul! Sinner! You are banished!"
I agree - I added it for fun overnight but deleted it this morning - it IS a neat trick but it IS a TRICK and I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility for SE's to start punishing people for using it...

janeth

11-17-2003, 04:09 PM

I have had it on my site for about 2 weeks it has not effected any of our rankings so far.

Although it could be the reason everyone is having problems with Google right now.

As far as the title goes yes it is a good place to stick a couple of key words but this code is not going to stop you from doing that.

It is all about getting customers the first time I hear that Google has a problem with it I will remove the code. Other wise as long as it works I will keep it there.

But that is just me I'm not scared to take chances heck that is why I started my own business.

busy1

11-17-2003, 04:24 PM

Please look at my title tag. Do you think it is too excessive. After reading the banned stuff I am
thinking yes, too excessive altogether.
Lynn

janeth

11-17-2003, 04:43 PM

Hi busy1
What is your web site address?

busy1

11-17-2003, 04:45 PM

Sorry, its
http://www.thegifts2give.com

busy1

11-17-2003, 04:58 PM

Hi Janeth,
I just cleared it off. I got a little worried.
It read:
-->*Home Decor Gifts, Garden Gifts, Christmas Gift Ideas & Decor
Lynn

busy1

11-17-2003, 10:22 PM

So what do you think Janeth, too much?
Lynn
http://www.thegifts2give.com
Hi Janeth,
I just cleared it off. I got a little worried.
It read:
-->*Home Decor Gifts, Garden Gifts, Christmas Gift Ideas & Decor

minstrel

11-17-2003, 10:39 PM

Home Decor Gifts, Garden Gifts, Christmas Gift Ideas & Decor
Looks fine to me...

janeth

11-17-2003, 10:46 PM

I try for between 6 and 12 words.
On the title

janeth

11-17-2003, 11:53 PM

This may be my last post

I have gotten ten emails from this guy in the last five minutes so it most be true.
MR.WANG QIN
On June 6, 1998, a British Oil consultant/ contractor with the Chinese
Solid Minerals Corporation, Mr. Smith Lawrence made a numbered time
(Fixed) Deposit for twelve calendar months,valued at US$28,000,000.00
(Twenty-eight Million Dollarsonly)in my branch.

All I need to do is send him all my banking information.
What a deal for me.
How stupid do these people think people are?

elearning

11-19-2003, 01:21 AM

hehehe - if it works for you, FWD the e-mail to me and I'll try as well! I could use US $28,000,000.00! :-)

Mohammed

This may be my last post

I have gotten ten emails from this guy in the last five minutes so it most be true.
MR.WANG QIN
On June 6, 1998, a British Oil consultant/ contractor with the Chinese
Solid Minerals Corporation, Mr. Smith Lawrence made a numbered time
(Fixed) Deposit for twelve calendar months,valued at US$28,000,000.00
(Twenty-eight Million Dollarsonly)in my branch.

All I need to do is send him all my banking information.
What a deal for me.
How stupid do these people think people are?

brianzajac

11-20-2003, 11:30 AM

I just read this post and it all sounds interesting. However, I've looked on all the sites and I cannot see this in a google search or a title tag. I've also put one of those characters on my home page at http://eyemagination.us/. You can view the source...am I doing something wrong? All I see is a box. I'm running MS 6.0 on XP.

minstrel

11-20-2003, 12:06 PM

I've looked on all the sites and I cannot see this in a google search or a title tag. I've also put one of those characters on my home page at http://eyemagination.us/. You can view the source...am I doing something wrong? All I see is a box. I'm running MS 6.0 on XP.
I also see only a box on your home page, using MSIE6-SP1 under XP. It may depend on the specific character you use - some of the ones Janeth posted I see only as boxes - on her site, sometimes loading the page I saw a star or other symbol, somtimes just a box. I never actually saw the arrow...

No idea why this occurs but I guess it tells me that maybe it isn't reliable enough to take the risk that it may end up with your site being penalized.

brianzajac

11-20-2003, 04:29 PM

Thanks Minstrel,

I'll take it off. I didn't even see Janeth's site and the characters she was using. In fact, I didn't see anyone's except for a box on mine. Oh well...Janeth, maybe in a couple weeks/months you could give us an update on your symbols...if your site got penalized or how well it continues to do. All in all, I think it's a great idea, but I just couldn't see it like others did.

rlrouse

11-20-2003, 04:57 PM

All I need to do is send him all my banking information.

You desperately need a middleman. Send me your banking information and I'll act as your broker. Heck, forget about the banking information, just send me your credit card number.

Just in case this deal works out, bear in mind that I get several more offers just like it in the mail every day! We'll all be rich! Share the wealth, that's my motto!

janeth

11-20-2003, 07:22 PM

Hi rlrouse,

I must get five of those crazy emails a day.

Is Google finished there links yet?

rlrouse

11-20-2003, 08:22 PM

Is Google finished there links yet?

Not yet. Maybe by tomorrow...

janeth

11-20-2003, 08:34 PM

Thats good because mine has been all over the place and now has stopped a little low.
I have also been seeing ranking going crazy today.

simonm

11-21-2003, 05:08 AM

Hi Janeth,

If you can't see the effect try doing a search from http://www2.google.com. ie.

http://www2.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=custom+web+site&btnG=Google+Search

1st time I tried on www. the effect wasn't there.

I'm definitely going to try it!

As to your money offer, see http://www.419eater.com

brianzajac

11-21-2003, 09:42 AM

Thanks simonm,

I FINALLY get to see the arrow. Great idea Janeth! The wierd part is that I did a regular google search too and now it came up. And, I know there was no cache', since I dumped my temp internet files. Well, I guess it's like google, one day it's up and another day it's not!

janeth

11-21-2003, 09:47 AM

Yes Google is so out of control right now that I have not even been using them to do searches at all. They need to fix there problems.

jfs

11-24-2003, 06:34 AM

Hey Jen!

We also tried the thing with arrows and blocks. It looks like you can draw more traffic. But talk about conversion and you have a big thumb of Devil. I dont know but it looks like everybody knows the trick but nothing monetary-wise.

Looks like we're thriving in Fools Paradise..................

Debster

11-27-2003, 12:51 PM

I also tried to apply the arrow to the <title> on my homepage. Strange thing is, that it only works with Google.com

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=conk+webdesign

When I search with Google.nl (Dutch) I get 3 question marks ???:

http://www.google.nl/search?sourceid=navclient&q=conk+webdesign

janeth

11-27-2003, 07:16 PM

It also works with yahoo did you try it there also?

Debster

11-28-2003, 02:54 AM

It also works with yahoo did you try it there also?

No didn't try, I'll try that later. Thanks for the tip.

But don't you think it is strange that it works with Google.com and not with Google.nl?

Most of my visitors use Google.nl, so I would really prefer the situation that it works with alll searchengines, because the 3 questionmarks have just the opposite effect. The arrow will stimulate people to click, but the ??? will avoid that. It looks like there's an error or something.

Don't you agree?

elearning

11-28-2003, 10:34 AM

I am guessing, but could this be due to the character set being used on Google.nl??

Mohammed

It also works with yahoo did you try it there also?

No didn't try, I'll try that later. Thanks for the tip.

But don't you think it is strange that it works with Google.com and not with Google.nl?

Most of my visitors use Google.nl, so I would really prefer the situation that it works with alll searchengines, because the 3 questionmarks have just the opposite effect. The arrow will stimulate people to click, but the ??? will avoid that. It looks like there's an error or something.

Don't you agree?

Jerry Murray

11-29-2003, 11:03 AM

I am not able to do this with my site as the title wont allow me to use html. I went to the title and put a couple of ***before the first word. Will this have any effect on my ranking, has anyone tried this?

janeth

11-29-2003, 01:48 PM

Jerry Murray

11-29-2003, 01:57 PM

I do not think this will effect your ranking.

But with the new changes at Google using your key words anywhere is spam and that will effect your ranking.

They do not want you to use your key words any where on your page.

That doesnt make any sense. If my key words are Honda, Baltimore Maryland...how can I NOT have them on my front page?

janeth

11-29-2003, 03:21 PM

Hi Jerry,
Just playing with that.
It just seems like Google kicked a lot of web sites out for nothing more then using there key words.

But i think Google will be changing that soon.

Lydia

12-15-2003, 08:09 AM

Hello Janeth,

Being new to WPW, I only came across your tip today. However, upon checking your code, it seems like the "trick" has been removed?

By the way, nice job... you're still ranked #1 for "custom web sites".

Cheers,

Lydia

RemodelingGuy

12-15-2003, 08:51 AM

janeth

12-15-2003, 10:05 AM

We redid our site and have not added it back yet.

RemodelingGuy
All it does is make your name stand out in the searches. Just something different that seems to make people click on your site.

ren23

12-16-2003, 06:47 PM

Howdy,

I tried the trick and had no luck. (It didn't show on the search page)

Is there an example of this in working order somewhere?

Thanks

minstrel

12-16-2003, 11:31 PM

Read through the by now numerous threads on the Google shakeup...

This may be a bad time to be trying ANY kind of "tricks"...

cbp

12-17-2003, 12:17 AM

I tried the trick and had no luck. (It didn't show on the search page)

It won't show up on the search page until Google has reindexed the site.

Do a search for web host - I noticed a couple of arrows on sites down the page

CBP

ren23

01-28-2004, 03:00 PM

Hey, does anyone know the code for a musical note? I looked around but was unable to find it.

Thanks,
Ren

minstrel

01-28-2004, 10:52 PM

Hey, does anyone know the code for a musical note? I looked around but was unable to find it.

& # 9834; = ♪ (delete spaces between & and # and 9834)

ren23

01-29-2004, 11:38 AM

Thanks again; what a great forum!

I'll ask this here, just for kicks. (I posted this elsewhere in the web programming forum earlier today)

In your opinion, where should I put my efforts as far as learning new skills is concerned? asp? php? What skill will make me a more valuable designer both in the short term (next year or so) and over the nexr few years?

Ren