You can't steal me!

[brianzajac]

Ok, hopefully that got your attention. Please take a look at http://www.eyemagination.us/vrstarterdesigns.htm and let me know if there's a way that you can take the designs that I have posted up. Just click on any of the thumbnails designs to see the full-screen size...these are the ones I'm interested to know if they can be taken. Thanks guys and gals!

[redcircle]

Very easily.

1. Turn Javascript off.
2. Do a screen capture.
3. Look in cache.

[sudhani]

I don't think we can really ptoect the content we place on the net from someone who knows a bit about the html >>> Presume, everyone who tries to copy will know a bit more than a common man does!!!

[redcircle]

When I see someone trying to use some kind of javascript protection I purposly go out of my way to see what they are trying to hide. It's like at a restraunt when the waitress says "watch out the plate is hot" and the first thing you do is touch the plate.

[le_gber]

Could also do a ctrl+n to open your page in a new window and the use the ie toolbar to look at the source code.

What you could do is use a big copyright sign as a watermark or a 50% transparent layer but it won't prevent people to reproduce your designs without it.

Leo

[brianzajac]

Thanks for the advice. Actually, the options you gave are great. However, the most important part is that an advanced user has to spend a little time getting to it. I just want to reduce the number of people who can download my designs. I figure it's just like music on the net. Most still don't know how to download music and convert it to CD to play in their car. However, there will always be a few who will do it, regardless of restrictions.

[carbonize]

Mozilla and Mozilla Firebird both allow you to view a pages info including the exact url of any images called. This has been discussed to death in a previous thread located at http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=268. You can not stop a person from copying something they can view in a web browser.

It did also occur to me that they wouldn't want to copy the images from your site anyway. If they like the design they would recreate it for themselves. Copying the image would serve no purpose.

[brianzajac]

Carbonize,

Thanks for the input. However, I'm not sure that I agree with your statement:

"If they like the design they would recreate it for themselves. Copying the image would serve no purpose."

I believe that copying the image gives them a much easier way of taking the image into Photoshop and manipulating it. Keep in mind that the designs (http://www.eyemagination.us/starterdesigns.htm) I'm protecting are a single image and not already cut-up into html. This image could be easy reference material for duplication. Text sizing, bolding, special effects, location, ect. all play a part in easier duplication.

But, if I play devil's advocate for a bit, I also know that my design is one of millions of designs currently out there. And, if they really want it, they could get it (with some of the advice from the previous posts).

[carbonize]

I'm at home now and just viewed your pages in Firebird. I hate to tell you but your no right click script actually doesn't work in Firebird. I assume this means it doesn't work in Mozilla neither.

[www.ROMELO.com]

I saw this site, it was in HTML but when you went into their portfolio/gallery the photos or images are in flash. Maybe they thought that they can protect their images if they put it in flash.

[brianzajac]

I'm sure the "design system" doesn't work in many ways, as previously mentioned...I'm only taking care of the majority of the audience. If I tried nailing it down to everyone, I would believe padded walls and a straight jacket would be in my future.

[carbonize]

Since the only people that are going to want to steal your images are web designers they are going to have more knowledge regaring how web browsers work than the average person.

[www.ROMELO.com]

Theft will always be an issue in any medium. The best way to protect your designs is not to publish them online. Maybe you can send them your portfolio upon request or you can redirect them to a secured section of your website which only prospective clients can have access to.

[SyrenSong]

I'm at home now and just viewed your pages in Firebird. I hate to tell you but your no right click script actually doesn't work in Firebird. I assume this means it doesn't work in Mozilla neither.

Absolutely correct, carbonize.

I just tried right-clicking in Mozilla. I got the popup window telling me I can right-click, and also the option to "Save Image As" right on top of it.

Sorry for the bad news, brainzajac.

That was a no-sweat no-brainer method of taking the image.

[brianzajac]

I know this might sound crazy to everyone, but I know one way or another, people are actually going to utilize the designs I've created...locally, my "eye" logo has been "artistically-duplicated", so I expect the same here. What I'm really going for is letting people know that you shouldn't steal it (through simple methods on the major browser...IE). Copyright is on every major page of the site, so designers will get the hint. Now, if they do steal it, then so be it. But I've got an easy way to black list them in the community and possibly sue them too. But, then again, it is flattering to know someone would take the time to steal my JPEG and go through the mounds of trouble of making the design functional.

And, as a final note, I want EVERYONE to know the work that can be purchased from me...that's why these are starter designs...as for the custom ones...no one is touching those babies!

[Memoire]

Just click on image and drag to the desk top - in all browsers

[Narasinha]

I'm at home now and just viewed your pages in Firebird. I hate to tell you but your no right click script actually doesn't work in Firebird. I assume this means it doesn't work in Mozilla neither.

Hey carbonize, this isn't all going to start again, is it? ;)

Same thing in Opera (7.21, Windows). Opera has an option in the configuration to allow or disallow JavaScript access to right-button mouse clicks. I believe it is disallowed by default, always allowing right-click unless you choose to change it.

[carbonize]

I'm at home now and just viewed your pages in Firebird. I hate to tell you but your no right click script actually doesn't work in Firebird. I assume this means it doesn't work in Mozilla neither.

Hey carbonize, this isn't all going to start again, is it? ;)

Same thing in Opera (7.21, Windows). Opera has an option in the configuration to allow or disallow JavaScript access to right-button mouse clicks. I believe it is disallowed by default, always allowing right-click unless you choose to change it.

Nope I just meant that his no right click script doesn't work on Firebird at all.

[woggins]

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet but in IE 6 you just have to hover over the image for a couple of seconds and that send/email... toolbar shows up, i think it can be turned off in javascript.

[tviman]

Brian...

A question - have you actually applied for, and received, your copyrights from the Copyright office? Without these, your copyright notices are meaningless.

[Narasinha]

Brian...

A question - have you actually applied for, and received, your copyrights from the Copyright office? Without these, your copyright notices are meaningless.

Actually, your copyright begins at the moment you create your work. Registration does provide much greater protection, but providing evidence of your creation of the work prior to registration also works well.

[brianzajac]

I'm going with Narasinha's approach. Once you've created it, it's yours. And, in the online design world, someone can tweak your design and it's difficult to sue them for any amount due to the lack of laws out there and who's stealing it. Recently, I just saw a TV commercial taking the same idea of my "eye-blinking" procedure. Again, it's flattering to me. I'm only here to say "hey, remember, this is copyright...so think a bit before you act".

[tviman]

Actually, proving that you created "it" first is no protection against copyright. What it does is prove that you did "it" first when applying for a copyright. To win a copyright infringement suit, you must have the "official" paperwork.

[minstrel]

To win a copyright infringement suit, you must have the "official" paperwork.
No... you must have some sort of objective evidence that you created "it" and that you did so before the other guy. The "official paperwork" certainly helps - it's the best such proof - but even if I have a copyright, it would have little value if you could prove that you created the work or something highly similar before I obtained the copyright.

[carbonize]

Simple rule of thumb, If you don't want it copied then don't make it public.

[seaflex]

Why not just make the pop up images a bit smaller - the images are already compressed down - so if you made them about 75% of real size they would still be large enough for people to see but difficult for somebody to use as the quality would drop so much when they tried to enlarge them to use.

Only my opinion

Phil

[thehookah]

How about all the mac users? You can easily drag the pics to the desktop. Many designers use macs. This is possible with ie and safari. My 2 cents.

George