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rich_ord
06-21-2004, 05:58 PM
Fox News reporter John Gibson argued that the BBC had displayed "a frothing-at-the-mouth" anti-American bias. In response to some complaints about this coverage Fox News said searching for the phrase "BBC anti-american" in the Google internet search engine resulted in 47,200 hits (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3805691.stm).

The idea being that a lot of hits in a search result proves others are thinking along these lines as well. Unfortunately, search results don’t work like a Gallup Poll. As you can see in our “GoogleFight” at the end of this report the phrase “Fox anti-american” provides 51,000 results!

In my opinion it is not a matter of bias but of misunderstanding about how Google and other search engines work. Pleeker at the SEW Forums (http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=299) states, “There's nothing wrong with using Google for research, as many judges (or reporters) are apparently doing. But the system falls apart when the researcher isn't able to understand the real value (or lack thereof) of what Google gives you.”

Another poster points to a great article on this called “Lies, Damned Lies, and Google (http://www.mediabistro.com/articles/cache/a1217.asp)”. The subtitle tells the story, “It's all the rage for writers to prove their points by citing Google. One problem: The stats are meaningless.”

The news media and the general public (excluding us web-savvy people) may simply be confused. We are all used to seeing news stories of how popular Britney Spears is because she is the most searched for celebrity on Google (http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/01/05/google.list/). The number of times a phrase is searched and how many results show up for a search are two different things.

The results are in for Fox vs. BBC at GoogleFight.com (http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=bbc+anti-american&q2=fox+anti-american&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us) ... check it out.

Rich Ord
CEO, iEntry, Inc.
http://www.ientry.com

"iEntry, Inc. is the parent company of WebProWorld"

celebrate
07-02-2004, 12:45 AM
I was wondering if you have any suggestions on how to improve <Spammed URL zapped by Mike>

Stay on topic please.

-Mike

Dave Hawley
07-02-2004, 02:49 AM
celebrate, all you are going to achieve by posting the same Q in umpteen different threads, is being banned from the forum.

Nobody is likely to help a spammer.

hawkwind dave
07-02-2004, 07:56 AM
Hi Rich, thankyou for an interesting article.

rich_ord wrote
"In my opinion it is not a matter of bias but of misunderstanding about how Google and other search engines work"

We're talking about Journalists here, it's allways a matter of 'bias', and they frequently 'missunderstand', yet they don't care, they only want the story of the day. If they can't find the stats to back up their headlines, they make them up. It happens frequently. The Journo/media types are fortunate that they now have Google to use to back up their missrepresentaion of the world.

Sorry, I'm not a media fan.