View Full Version : Web Traffic Fraud
06-14-2004, 10:40 AM
I don't know if anyone in here had resource to the traffic service from web companies.
I recently purchased a package that guaranteed me 100 thousand visitors on my site,
which they delivered but I did not get one single purchase, not an email not even a phone call; now is it me or there is something wrong with this picture.
I do allot of direct mailing marketing I usually and is usually 100 that's right one hundred letter to local business and to out side the state business,
and I always get at leas a phone call or some type of business than at least pays back the investment that I make on envelopes and stamp.
But with traffic marketing campaign I did not get a single dime.
an other thing that I fond weird is that the
majority of the users went to the index page and then disappear as if the got there by accident.
I hope this serves as a warning to anyone who might be thinking on getting this service it simply does not work.
06-14-2004, 11:04 AM
Those 'visitors' were faked and thus it could have been a scam. Check your log files to see the IP addresses that visited your site and I would bet that they all came from the same IP address.
06-14-2004, 02:56 PM
Sometimes learning the hard way, is the only way.
But, yes, IMO, these traffic services are BS.
Even if the hits are legitimate ... are they targetted? Not likely.
Signing up for guaranteed hits... may as well flush the money down the toilet.
06-14-2004, 08:54 PM
Sometimes learning the hard way, is the only way.
... may as well flush the money down the toilet.
you could not have said it better, my friend
06-25-2004, 02:45 PM
what it sounds like happened is that you purchased either visitors, not hits (They are very diferent, hits are unique and visitors are people who came back, well at's least what I have come to believe, corect m if I'm wrong).
The people that went to your website were extremely untargetted. Who is your target market?Where these visitors within your target market? Not likely since you didn't recieve any response.
You probably recieved a combination of both.
It sounds like people visited your website through a pop up or were possibly given an incentive to clic to your website, such as "you gain credits by visiting other's websites, and in return you can use these credits to show your website to other people".
I would stay away from programs such as these, unless they can genuinely provide targetted traffic to your website.
I hope this didn't cost you too much.
I know of a reputable company who provides genuine opt-in leads, 100,000 for $1000, I think it's around about that.
Much better than just traffc which MAY contact you.
However, it's always best to generate traffic and leads yourself.
If you're selling something then ppc may be the way to go.
07-13-2004, 11:56 PM
Boy Howdy, don't get me started. A few years back one of my clients wasn't satisfied with being in the top 5 positions of yahoo etc.... so he hired one of the "Traffic Power/Builder/Bull" scams to "Market" his site.... well,
By using "illegal" and unethical methods, this scam got him blacklisted from every search engine. They used a hundred repetitions of the keyword in the Keyword and Description, used thousands of characters of comments - tho the site sold flags and banners the scammers used "FREE MONEY" FREE VACATIONS", Happy families big money easy" as the keywords ! .... They even put up a page of phony testimonials - not even related to the product - "The best site I have ever used"... etc.. etc.. which were on every site this scam company did.
I have NEVER met an ethical one.... has anyone ??
07-23-2004, 01:16 PM
yes there are ethical seo firms out their but they charge big $$ and do not promis any return with long minimum commitments
because at the end of the day there is no guarantee and it is a rook of the dice.
Purchased traffic is almost always pop-ups or under and we all know what we do with them x right
Sometimes they are redirects off pages or null domains.
The only way to purchase relevant traffic is through ppc advertising or a specific industry / market related site. Evan ppc has itís problems with false clicks.
As bhartzer mentioned link at your logs for 1 ip too many visits or 100000 unresolved ipís all they have to do is cloak their ip and hammer your site.
I started off as a programmer and I developed a piece of software that later I found could be used for Iíll proposes. A auto navigator self cleaner system ap that could navigate through a web site through itís pages cleaning itself of cookies and cash each pass. If you where to cloak you ip then run this ap in a hammering way you would see your traffic sore and through your site. This was not my designed intention (believe you me I made this 5 years ago and no-one was looking at unique visitors let alone unresolved ipís Iím just too honest or I would have cashed out then instead I pulled my program before replace) it was to be kind of a locked browser with a browsing circulation(good application a business could leave this visible to in house customers as it auto navigates without customer interference(they always mess something up)
The more the net grows the more manipulation you will find.
Just remember if it sounds too god to be true it is
07-23-2004, 03:29 PM
Well unfortunately they gave you 100,000 hits. What more than likely happened - they inserted your link / URL into a another website & made it "pop-up" on exit or entry. And you got a hit. I have seen this "scam" a lot. They do not even have to have fine print
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07-24-2004, 02:07 AM
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