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markcoe
04-28-2011, 04:59 AM
i want to know that how Google Panda update has affect the website SEO and its back links.

NickTyler81
04-28-2011, 07:53 AM
Well it has affected some positively and some negatively. There are plenty of threads on this forum if you search and also have a look here (http://www.tugsearch.co.uk/blog/2011/03/04/googles-matt-cutts-talks-about-recent-algorithm-update-big-panda-or-farmer/) for some links to articles about it.

ujt123
04-28-2011, 08:30 AM
Google panda works against duplicate content and who offers visitors a poor experience.So,Google Panda banned these sites and decreases its pagerank and priority.

DavidF
04-28-2011, 10:41 AM
Surprisingly (as most updates seem to hurt me) this latest one really helped as all my content is unique and fresh. However I'm still seeing content farms rank high on Google so it's still not nearly an exact science.

vikasrawat
05-06-2011, 01:34 AM
Google panda update have negative impact on content farms. And positive impact on websites and blogs that are publishing well researched contents

C.Rebecca
05-07-2011, 08:59 AM
The Panda update is designed to reduce rankings for low-quality sites:
- sites that copy content from other websites or
- sites that are just not very useful.
- Sites with poor user experience

At the same time, it will provide better rankings for high-quality sites:
- sites with original content
- sites with useful information such as research, in-depth reports, thoughtful analysis and so on.

So if your website has low quality backlinks, chances are high that your SERP rankings may drop. Furthermore, if you have spammy backlinks, Google will surely devalue them.

MattC
05-09-2011, 03:00 PM
As most others have stated Panda is designed to target low quality websites, 'farming' content to achieve high quality organic positions. One interesting area this update has affected is price comparison websites.

I had a very good article to post about this but appear to be unable to do so as I have not made 10 posts. Makes this post a little pointless so apologies, but I clearly need to make my 10 before I can be trusted!

NickTyler81
05-10-2011, 04:20 AM
Matt you can post the URL it just won't be clickable yet. Then we can paste it and see if you are trusworthy??

Yorozuya
03-31-2012, 07:34 PM
For me personally it has caused some difficultyes, had to change my methods here and there, but overall I think it affected the internet marketplace positively. SEO is like any other aspects of life afterall; If you can't adopt to changes, you lose. A webmaster has to be able to remain up to date in his methods ;)

Amarsharma
04-02-2012, 06:16 AM
Google always like fresh content .It always checks that the content is original or similar to the website.

SENtelligence
04-02-2012, 11:01 AM
There are a lot of speculations regarding Panda on the Internet, but most of them are not based on anything material. I'd advice you to read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Panda) wikipedia page about the Panda update first.

Google has never disclosed what actually triggers the algorithm, they've only hinted (http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2011/05/more-guidance-on-building-high-quality.html)at what sites'd be safe from it, so, SEO's went on speculating and suggesting that, perhaps, Google is now looking at how unique your content is, how high your CTR (from the SERPs) is, other user-behavior metrics (time on site, etc.)

However, the only thing we know for a fact is that Google had let their quality testers look at tons of websites, and then, a machine-learning algorithm was used to analyze what the "downvoted" sites had in common, which lay the foundation for the Panda update.

richardfranklin
04-03-2012, 03:59 AM
By having Panda update, Google decided to reward those websites, which have high quality unique content on their websites. Through this updates the websites which were not providing useful and relevant information to their users, have been penalized.

richardfranklin
04-03-2012, 04:03 AM
Panda is a reward to those websites which have high quality unique content on their websites and a penalty to those which have copied it from other resources or having less useful information for users.

SENtelligence
04-03-2012, 09:00 AM
By having Panda update, Google decided to reward those websites, which have high quality unique content on their websites. Through this updates the websites which were not providing useful and relevant information to their users, have been penalized.

Even though what you're saying does sound a bit pompous and idealistic, I have to admit that Panda did quite a good job, and most of the sites complaining on webmaster central are indeed crappy (and sometimes creepy). However, ever since Panda hit, the amount of web spam has scaled up too.

LD
04-03-2012, 09:17 AM
I look at it like this. What may seem like a reward for some sites in terms of SERPs, can be looked at as more of a byproduct of the devaluation of lower value sites. When sites are repositioned lower in the SERPs due to devaluation, the previously lower positioned sites that add value in their existence, would move up.

ozsubasi
04-20-2012, 06:07 AM
How it will find duplicate content?

I can find duplicate content easily enough - just type an extract into Google search and see what comes up. For specific phrases use " at the beginning and end. If I can do that don't you think Google can?
Have a look at this:
http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66359

deepsand
04-21-2012, 03:36 PM
How they distinguish duplicate contents. Suppose two sites "A" and "B" have same contents, then will A be duplicate of B or vice versa.
No particular copy enjoys an inherent advantage over any and all others.

Google will try to determine which copy, within the context that it is presented, is the better suited for the user's query string.

By analogy, consider the task of selecting which recorded version of a song or other musical work is most likely to be best liked by a particular listener.

nhunet
04-22-2012, 12:02 PM
depends on the time google robot fetches content of a website. By this way google can know which content appears first.

deepsand
04-22-2012, 01:40 PM
depends on the time google robot fetches content of a website. By this way google can know which content appears first.
Which appears first is not necessarily the original.

And, being the original does not mean that it's the best suited for a particular query string.

Being "first" guarantees nothing.

ozsubasi
04-23-2012, 04:25 AM
Which appears first is not necessarily the original.
And, being the original does not mean that it's the best suited for a particular query string.
Being "first" guarantees nothing.

This is something I wasn't really aware of until just now when I came across it when researching something else, and what you are saying seems to confirm it.
I had thought that the first publication would be the original, but hadn't taken into account the matter of indexing. My understanding now is that I could post something original on my site but it may not get indexed for a while, whereas a copy on a site crawled more frequently could have it visible sooner.
If my understanding is correct, how could I then prove mine was the original, if I wanted to report the copy?

deepsand
04-23-2012, 04:45 AM
This is something I wasn't really aware of until just now when I came across it when researching something else, and what you are saying seems to confirm it.
I had thought that the first publication would be the original, but hadn't taken into account the matter of indexing. My understanding now is that I could post something original on my site but it may not get indexed for a while, whereas a copy on a site crawled more frequently could have it visible sooner.
If my understanding is correct, how could I then prove mine was the original, if I wanted to report the copy?
Unless it is truly your unique copyrightable work, you've no claim to exclusivity.

If it is, and you can prove that you authored it, then you should report such to both the host of the infringing party's site and those SEs which have indexed the infringing copy.

ozsubasi
04-23-2012, 05:15 AM
Unless it is truly your unique copyrightable work, you've no claim to exclusivity.
If it is, and you can prove that you authored it, then you should report such to both the host of the infringing party's site and those SEs which have indexed the infringing copy.

Apart from my legal and privacy policy pages (which I created using online services) the only page I have which has copied content is one which gives some figures and that is reproduced with permission and linked to the source. Everything else was written by myself. I would stress that I don't have any issue over someone who has copied anything, I'm just asking out of interest.
My pages have a "copyright" notice at the bottom but I am not sure that really means anything. The basis of my question was that although I know it is my own work, if someone was able to get it copied and shown in search results before I could, how would I actually prove I'd authored it?
From some reading I've just done I can see that there are services available for copyrighting content before it is posted to your site, but if it's there already am I right in thinking that it would be difficult to do much about it?
Sorry if this is veering off-topic, but I am wondering that if Panda is designed to help sites that have original content whether there is any real protection for those that do.

deepsand
04-23-2012, 06:10 AM
... I am wondering that if Panda is designed to help sites that have original content whether there is any real protection for those that do.
To repeat, "originality" guarantees nothing. What counts is the context within which such is presented as compared to the intent signaled by the form and content of the users query.

Think of it as being analogous to trying to figure out which recordings of a song are most likely to appeal to a given listener.

ozsubasi
04-23-2012, 06:43 AM
I understand that, but if the copy and original are identical then one would not appeal more than the other? I know that panda is not there for site owners but for users, but I was exploring the situation from the point of view of someone who's work had been copied.

deepsand
04-23-2012, 06:54 AM
I understand that, but if the copy and original are identical then one would not appeal more than the other?
Each could be joined by other different content of the same page. Also, factors relating to other pages on the site, and to the Domain as a whole, may play a role in determining which copy is selected for a particular query.

ozsubasi
04-23-2012, 07:03 AM
Each could be joined by other different content of the same page. Also, factors relating to other pages on the site, and to the Domain as a whole, may play a role in determining which copy is selected for a particular query.

Ok so there are other factors from the user's point of view which could influence their search results even if their were no alterations to the content copied. As I said, I was really trying to look at something beyond that as well.

deepsand
04-23-2012, 06:35 PM
As I said, I was really trying to look at something beyond that as well.
What that something may be is unclear.

ozsubasi
04-24-2012, 01:51 AM
What that something may be is unclear.

It is explained in these parts of my earlier postings:

The basis of my question was that although I know it is my own work, if someone was able to get it copied
and shown in search results before I could, how would I actually prove I'd authored it?
From some reading I've just done I can see that there are services available for copyrighting content before it is posted to your site,
but if it's there already am I right in thinking that it would be difficult to do much about it?


I know that panda is not there for site owners but for users, but I was exploring the situation from the point
of view of someone who's work had been copied.

deepsand
04-24-2012, 02:10 AM
Relying on formally filed and government approved applications for Copyright is both time consuming and expensive, particularly if the content are dynamic.

Better, if possible, is to demonstrate that the file containing the content in question pre-existed that of the infringement. For some, a finding of ones page archived by the Wayback Machine (http://archive.org/web/web.php) may suffice.

ozsubasi
04-24-2012, 02:35 AM
I had a look at the Wayback Machine for my site, it was archived 4 times over a two week period last June, but not again since so in my case I don't think it would be any help if I was in need of evidence. But thank you, I don't think I have anything that anyone would want to copy, but it is as well to be informed.

deepsand
04-24-2012, 04:54 AM
I had a look at the Wayback Machine for my site, it was archived 4 times over a two week period last June, but not again since so in my case I don't think it would be any help if I was in need of evidence. But thank you, I don't think I have anything that anyone would want to copy, but it is as well to be informed.
Yes, it's crawling seems to be rather spastic.

However, if you've not done so, you might try another look under a different canonical form. Ditto for any URLs re-directed to current pages.