Google Paradox -- get paid for better listings!

[ReviewGolf.com]

Has anyone else noticed this? If you add AdSense ads to some of your pages and hopefully get some clicks on those ads, it seems Google will spider the page more actively.

Ever since we put the ads on the pages of one of our sites, most of those pages ended up on the first page of Google. Interesting, it's not only free for us, but actually generates some revenue...

We call it a positive side-effect of using AdSense.

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[flood6]

I really hope this is just a coincidence. I'm really going to get upset if this is true...

Is anybody else seeing this?

[AndrewX]

Don't know if this is true or not, but something to consider is that you can differentiate between visits to your page for the purpose of parsing your content for AdSense versus normal spidering of your page for search results.

Spidering for search engine purposes will include the following string in your referrer logs...

Googlebot/2.1

When Google is scanning your content for AdSense you will see this...

Mediapartners-Google/2.1

[jestep]

I agree, Using adsense with greatly increase the google spider traffic on a web site. If your site is having trouble getting indexed or was hit by a duplicate filter and you are trying to get it back this may be a great way to do it.

[ReviewGolf.com]

jestep, you nailed it.

We've had the same pages sitting there with no chance of getting anywhere first page on Google... until we put AdSense ads on them.

What's that expression that we could apply here that explains Google's actions: "One hand is washing the other"?

[craven]

jestep, you nailed it.

We've had the same pages sitting there with no chance of getting anywhere first page on Google... until we put AdSense ads on them.

What's that expression that we could apply here that explains Google's actions: "One hand is washing the other"?

We have been running Google adsense for almost a year now across multiple sites.

We have never noticed an increase in rank by using adsense. We actually lost rank on several sites shortly after adding adsense.

There are many other reasons your pages may have increased in rank but we're pretty sure adsense has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Craven

[jestep]

Just to clear up what I said. I never meant the google gives better ranking, only that the site gets more spider traffic.

[robsynnott]

And interestingly, the Adsense spider also alerts the normal spider; I've had sites with no outside exxposure suddenly visited when AdSense starts running (this is occasionally irritating... Once, a page on my LOCAL MACHINE, connected by dial-up and with a webserver open to the world for testing purposes was briefly indexed...)

[jestep]

Once, a page on my LOCAL MACHINE, connected by dial-up and with a webserver open to the world for testing purposes was briefly indexed

Definately interesting. I wonder if the adsense spider obeys robots.txt. That would be very annoying to have a testing server, or local page spidered.

[flood6]

Once, a page on my LOCAL MACHINE, connected by dial-up and with a webserver open to the world for testing purposes was briefly indexed

Definately interesting. I wonder if the adsense spider obeys robots.txt. That would be very annoying to have a testing server, or local page spidered.

Lol, you don't think it would be convienient to be able to use google to search your C: drive?

[jestep]

Lol, you don't think it would be convienient to be able to use google to search your C: drive?
You can buy a google search server for that. Its only like $40,000 for a 1u unit. I have three next to my personal desktop server!!

[ReviewGolf.com]

Yes, Google bot obeys robot.txt. In fact they ask you to remove blocking instructions when you add AdSense.

No, Google does not rank you higher because of AdSense, but they do spider your site right away. So if you have site with relevant content and do not see yourself anywhere near on Google, try AdSense.

[ReviewGolf.com]

Over the weekend my friend asked me to put adwords on his site to test my theory. I'll try and if it works I'll be sure to post my observations here.

[jestep]

Kind of combining topics, I believe that I have a site that qualifies under the google sandbox effect. I just added adsense to it, so not Im waiting to see if using adsense has any effect of the google sandbox effect.

[marketershandbook.com]

Hi,
I agree that google does spider more when you put adsense on. I believe this is to ensure that the most relevant ads are displayed.

However I think ranking and indexing is completely seperate, because although my website is getting spidered quite a lot, only my home page has been indexed.

All of the others haven't even been indexed by google, let alone ranked well.

[Yayagogo]

I wonder if this increased spidering due to adwords also applies to dynamic pages? Has anyone tested this?

[rocos]

I wonder if this increased spidering due to adwords also applies to dynamic pages? Has anyone tested this?

Only Googlebot spidered your page, it will be indexed.

[Will.Spencer]

Quoting from the Google Adsense FAQ (https://www.google.com/adsense/faq)


6. How does participation in this program affect my site's position in the Google search results?
Participating in Google AdSense does not affect your site's rank in Google search results. Google AdSense will not affect the search results we deliver. Google believes strongly in freedom of expression and therefore offers broad access to content across the web. Our search results are unbiased by our relationships with paying advertisers and publishers. We will continue to show search results according to our PageRank technology.

Adding the Google AdSense ad code or WebSearch code to your site will not queue your pages for crawling by our main index bots. While our bot (Mediapartners-Google/2.1+) does crawl content pages for the purpose of targeting ads, this crawl is not associated with our main index crawl.

[Will.Spencer]

Y'all need to distinguish between Google's two bots, which do not share data with each other.

Here is what the referr strings look like:

Googlebot:
"Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"

Google AdSense bot:
"Mediapartners-Google/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"


Being crawled by the AdSense bot will not help you to be crawled, indexed, or ranked in Google.

[ReviewGolf.com]

True, it might have been a coincident, but I suggested similar trick to a friend and he got similar results.

I'm sure there's a lot more Google bots then just two, and I would think that there's some sort of connection between all. Google is trying so hard to get a clear picture of their users in order to deliver a personalized relevant content. And what's the better way of getting the correct image if not cross reference data from multiple sources? If they're not doing that yet, they're missing a whole lot...