View Full Version : I Need The Facts On Youtube Copyright Rules
morestar
10-26-2010, 12:36 PM
I recently posted a video of Justin Timberlake on the John Stewart show from my phone and uploaded it to my Youtube.com account. Within a few days Youtube notified me that my video was removed due to copyright infringement.
This I understand however I see hundreds of videos a day that seem to be copyrighted material.
I've read up and clicked through on the Youtube.com copyright tips (http://www.youtube.com/t/howto_copyright) but couldn't find the exact information I'm looking for - namely, is there a surefire way I can upload songs, videos, commercials or any other content that is 'owned' by others without Youtube removing my video?
I find that one can search for almost every single music video on the planet and find different users posting the same video - videos with thousands of views and seemingly following the right copyright suggestions as their videos never get removed.
How do I do this?
Any and all help or assistance with this is greatly appreciated.
;)
Generally, if you don't own it, don't post it because as soon as Youtube becomes aware of it, they will remove it.
I actually had a friend who made commercial videos professionally, and would post his own content onto Youtube to promote his projects. He had a dispute with a friend, who turned around and filled out DMCA complaints against all of his videos, resulting in all of the videos being removed and his account being banned, even though he owned all the rights to the content.
Just because copyrighted content is on the site does not mean they are letting it slide. However, some producers have made agreements with Youtube that they allow their content to be shown, and others post the content themselves. Still others simply aren't being detected automatically, and stay up until a user or the content owner reports the violation.
morestar
10-26-2010, 02:30 PM
I don't know wige, it seems too improbable that probably hundreds of thousands of videos aren't being reported or taken down. I'm not saying you're wrong but that's even what I would tell someone - and whilst saying it wouldn't believe it myself - based on what I see.
I can't remember where I picked up on this but I remember hearing/reading something to the effect of, if you add the owner of the video to the details of the video than you will be OK. I'm not sure if this is true either. I've seen an example of this here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81PAlsbXhY).
Runaway (SNL Performance) - Kanye West feat Pusha T
Could this rumor that if you provide the right amount of true owner credentials to the video everything will be OK be true?
Note that the youtube member displaying the video is also a member of the Youtube partner program - that video has over a hundred thousand views. Would the member really jeopardize their account by publishing material that could get their account banned or closed?
imvain2
10-26-2010, 04:53 PM
When a person takes a photo of a celebrity, the photo is copyrighted to the photographer and they can turn around and sell it to the tabloids legally. I'm wondering is video from a camera phone different?
morestar
10-26-2010, 06:48 PM
This is what you see when you are on the video upload page:
Important: Do not upload any TV shows, music videos, music concerts, or commercials without permission unless they consist entirely of content you created yourself.
The Copyright Tips page and the Community Guidelines can help you determine whether your video infringes someone else's copyright.
By clicking "Upload Video", you are representing that this video does not violate YouTube's Terms of Use and that you own all copyrights in this video or have authorization to upload it.
If the rules are so tight I do not understand the millions of videos that are breaking this rule and getting away with it.
ronchalice
10-27-2010, 01:21 AM
When you see a video that you think is in violation, you might first check to see if there is a purchase link for the artist or song. There are a number of cases where the artist who owns the copyright has granted permission for use as long as a purchase link is provided. However, this is not a blanket permission. If you see the XYZ band in a video and there is a purchase link that does NOT mean that you can upload an XYZ video. You need to negotiate with the copyright holder for permission first. Unless you have a number of videos that are getting a large amount of traffic, it doesn't make sense for the artist to grant you permission.
weegillis
10-27-2010, 02:35 AM
The key to copyright is just as Wige stated, 'If you don't own it, don't post it.' What credit is it to the poster if it's not theirs?
So what if I know how to post on YouTube all the videos that I scrape from somewhere.... They're still not mine.
OP, are you kidding?
rehaylock
10-27-2010, 03:21 AM
I think it's the song that would have been copyright, not the video itself. I guess Justin Timberlake and/or the John Stewart show has people actively protecting their copyrights.
weegillis
10-27-2010, 03:33 AM
The John Stewart Show have obligations affixed to their license to broadcast any performance, one of which is to protect the rights of their guest artists.
If the rules are so tight I do not understand the millions of videos that are breaking this rule and getting away with it.
Every day, millions of drivers exceed the posted speed limit. Just because most of them get away with it doesn't make it any less illegal.