HubPages. Good or Bad for SEO?

[watto]

I recently started to include hubpages in my off line SEO marketing campaign (hubpages.com/hub/sydneybusinessforsale).

My question is, from an SEO point of view is it worth continuing to use HubPages? I realise these links are nofollowed but will they ever become followed? ( like google knol)

Thanks in advance.

[SteveGerencser]

Stop thinking links and start thinking traffic.. Can you make those pages drive traffic to your conversion page??

yes = do it
no = do something else

[Chief001]

Using Hub Pages is a great way to generate leads over time. As long as you return to update your page with new and useful information, who knows, maybe you'll begin to see more visitors who may link your article to someone else. Hub Pages has been referenced by many SEO gurus as being helpful, so that never hurts.

[ezestseo]

With HubPages you create “hubs”, which is a good name for these types of pages and a good concept to explore in your overall SEO and Link Building strategies.

More hubs you have, the more mentions you will get, and this leads to more traffic for your hubs. However, the traffic you can expect from displayed Related Hubs is minimal but it’s also free backlinks from other hubs, which leads to easier rankings for the hubs themselves.

[Optimize]

I realise these links are nofollowed but will they ever become followed? ( like google knol)

Thanks in advance.

you have to get your author score to more than 75 and then the hub links become follwed.

I found this hub explaining how to get a good link from humpages

How-to-Use-HubPages-to-Intelligently-Promote-your-New-Small-Business-Website (hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Use-HubPages-to-Intelligently-Promote-your-New-Small-Business-Website)

[PeterRossy]

Hubpages gives you a hub score for each hub. hubs with a score over 75 are do follow, under 75 are no follow. they are scored on several factors including quality of the individual hub, activity in the social community and on forums, traffic to your hubs, and overall quality of all of your hubs. Linking to other hubs is also a factor. # of friends and followers, etc... basically , they dont want you to just use it for link building. if you join the community and help other hubbers out, you get a better rating, as well as more traffic to your hubs. Your hub score also is how they rank their internal search, so the higher your hub score, the better you will rank in their search listings.

[Optimize]

Hubpages gives you a hub score for each hub. hubs with a score over 75 are do follow, under 75 are no follow. they are scored on several factors including quality of the individual hub, activity in the social community and on forums, traffic to your hubs, and overall quality of all of your hubs. Linking to other hubs is also a factor. # of friends and followers, etc... basically , they dont want you to just use it for link building. if you join the community and help other hubbers out, you get a better rating, as well as more traffic to your hubs. Your hub score also is how they rank their internal search, so the higher your hub score, the better you will rank in their search listings.

this isnt right, you need your author score above 75 or no hubs are dofollow. if your author score is above 75 then hubs themselves can be dofollow at score 40 or more.

[watto]

Ah now I get it. Thanks for the feedback guys. I really aprociate it. Hubpages actually seems way more useful to me now than it did before. I just didn't get it.

Thanks again.

[texxs]

Stop thinking links and start thinking traffic.. Can you make those pages drive traffic to your conversion page??

yes = do it
no = do something else

NEVER stop thinking links. article marketing is a great way to generate inbound links. They are lousy way to generate traffic usually (there are a few exceptions) and when they do it's usually traffic that doesn't convert.

If they nofollow they really aren't worth the time to write an article since there's so many article directories that will follow, IMO.

Try Squidoo

[watto]

How does Squidoo work? Is it an article directory? Are the links followed?

[SEOCat]

I'm going to read more about HubPage so I can decide if I use it or not, but, as Feydakin if the links send you traffic, just do it!

[texxs]

How does Squidoo work? Is it an article directory? Are the links followed?

Yes, and yes.

It also gives you some control over how much and what type of advertising is shown on the articles you write. And it even lets you keep a portion of the advert revenue, if you'd like.

[texxs]

I'm going to read more about HubPage so I can decide if I use it or not, but, as Feydakin if the links send you traffic, just do it!

1- Articles hardly ever bring you traffic unless they are something very populus like "Cheerleaders with Big Boobs Reveal All in Scandal with Obama and Newt Gingrich"
1a- when they do get lots of traffic (a prerequisite for sending you traffic), the traffic you receive is junk traffic and doesn't convert.

2- There are exceptions to every rule.

In summary, articles don't build traffic you want, if it doesn't give no follow links, go somewhere else. If your trying to just build traffic (vs build traffic by placing high in the SE's), articles directories are not the effective way to do it.

[watto]

Thanks again for the pointers guys. I have already bumped my personal hub score and main hub score to 74! Not long now before my main link goes live.

[C0ldf1re]

I did get spammed with a "How to Get to the Top of Google" course. It revolved around the idea that Google loves HubPages because of continual fresh content. It is still a dubious idea that depends on luck. Remember that if you get lucky, HubPages will keep a large part of any advertising revenue you generate.

[JasonP]

How much effort does it take to get a score of 75 on Hub Pages?

I was also thinking it needed / wanted unique content.

BTW I get good quality backlinks from Squidoo but it drives virtually no traffic for me. Squidoo takes a lot of work on the networking side. They really want the writers to be involved in the community.

[eortega]

I've been using hubpages for over a year now and while I don't get much traffic to my site from it, I think viewers are more in the "browsing" mind set and are not looking to leave the hubpages site so they don't click on links to external sites. I love the boost in SERPs they bring though. Just remember to post quality and insightful content and everything else will take care of it self!

[deepsand]

Just remember to post quality and insightful content and everything else will take care of it self!
Nope; this is not a case of "build it and they will come."

If you want traffic, traffic that converts, you've got to market.

Chasing rank, of any kind, is not marketing. Achieving rank may make you feel good; but, unless that alone is your goal, it's not going to guarantee success.

[kennyf]

There are a few problems with hubpages
1. They require original content. My problem with this is that I prefer to post the original article on the site being marketed usually on a blog so that it gets the Original content credit. hubpages takes the original content credit away from the author.

2. They have editors and administrators who not only check for plagiarism through automated tools but go to the linked sites and look for spun articles if you try that trick. I am not in favor of plagiarism, but I am in favor of syndication of my own work. Plagiarism is copying someone else's work, not syndicating your own. They do not make that distinction.

3. Your hubs are full of ads that the creators of hubpages profit from, not you. They hotlink words in your articles with those annoying pop-up video ads.

4. It takes a while to get to 75 because everyone is considered a spammer until proven innocent, in their minds.

5. They do not allow you to promote, in any way, a single site in your articles. So you have to link to Wikipedia or some other innocuous website and sneak a link to your target site, if they let you.

In summary, they require original content without any value or compensation, they have strict editors that block your articles and make you endlessly correct things, they run ads all over the place and profit off of your work, you have to work hard to get ranked 75 just so your backlinks get dofollowed, and your are very restricted as to what links you are allowed to put in your ad in the first place because you are not supposed to be promoting any one site.

So... how is this a good idea for SEO? There are better sites to syndicate articles and get backlinks AND traffic. Hubpages is a rip off. All of this makes it a lot of work for little payoff.:-|

[kathleenrivero]

Based on experience, Hubpages is generally well-loved by Google. Same goes for Squidoo. But then, if abuse is made, you know what google will do.

[williamc]

Chasing rank, of any kind, is not marketing. Achieving rank may make you feel good; but, unless that alone is your goal, it's not going to guarantee success.

Agreed, however unless you have traffic, you can not test conversions either. :)

[janessecret]

Hub pages are a good source of backlink juice, the only problem is that they need consatnt attention because if your score falls below 75 all you links revert to nofollow. The best way to keep your score up is to participate on some other pages and the forums on hub pages etc.

[deepsand]

Based on experience, Hubpages is generally well-loved by Google. Same goes for Squidoo. But then, if abuse is made, you know what google will do.
Define "well loved."

Then, state how Google's "love" of hub pages is measured.


Hub pages are a good source of backlink juice, ...
How is PR indirectly accrued the equal of that which is directly received?

[deepsand]

Agreed, however unless you have traffic, you can not test conversions either. :)
Hence the need for marketing, as opposed to trophy chasing.

[williamc]

Ahh, then we are obviously thinking of different kinds of ranking. I only go after keywords that actually send traffic, and get them (rank for them). Maybe I misunderstood what you meant?

[deepsand]

Ahh, then we are obviously thinking of different kinds of ranking. I only go after keywords that actually send traffic, and get them (rank for them). Maybe I misunderstood what you meant?
There are clearly many who labor under the false notion that attaining rank, as measured by some external party, is both necessary and sufficient for the realization of their goal(s).

[deepsand]

Well Hubpages are really good offline source for your business.
Off-line? :confused:

[williamc]

lord, I am not even getting into this one..

[deepsand]

Well, I suppose that PornHub generates some off-line business. :wink:

[LD]

Well, I suppose that PornHub generates some off-line business. :wink:

So it's not just urban legend?? :-o

[watto]

I was able to get my links followed at HubPages in less than two weeks (score of 75 and over). I have also started using Squidoo................and Pornhub...lol!

[deepsand]

So it's not just urban legend?? :-o
It's a secret masquerading as urban legend. 8)

[Web_Design]

HubPages usually bring a lot of traffic to our sites. I wouldn't worry too much about dofollow etc on HubPages. If you can submit good text to HubPages then you will see the results

[dforman]

I believe Hub Pages is just a small piece of a much bigger pie! :) It is important and will help as long as that is not all your are doing.

Dawn

[williamc]

I believe Hub Pages is just a small piece of a much bigger pie!

Really? What exactly are hub pages dawn? Personally, I am just waiting for someone to play 'waste the dumb spammer'.

[IntegratedS]

HubPages are definitely for those who either wish to simply express themselves or for those who wish to make it a focus that is, bring people to their hubs and earn from revenue sharing.

[edhan]

I always believe it is GOOD if you only how to utilize for your advantage in SEO. It is always good to do SEO for a long term advantage gain rather than short term. I can see alot of people are putting in effort to see short term result but that is not healthy for online business for long term. So, if you can really fully utilize HubPages to your advantage with articles drawing to your business site then you will achieve success.

[deepsand]

HubPages are definitely for those who either wish to simply express themselves ...
And, one needs a HubPage in order to express oneself why?


... or for those who wish to make it a focus that is, bring people to their hubs and earn from revenue sharing.
Need a HubPage to bring people to your hub? Going in circles, are we not?