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ADR International
08-17-2010, 11:55 AM
Can anyone give advise on article submission does this help with SEO?

williamc
08-17-2010, 12:06 PM
Yes. But as with anything, there are right and wrong ways of doing it. Rather than ask a question that at least 1000 others have asked, try searching on this forum. You will find more than enough info on the subject, I am sure.

govindseo
08-19-2010, 08:23 AM
Can anyone give advise on article submission does this help with SEO?
Yes this will help with seo,posting an article in your sites will updates your content and by submitting article in to various good article directories will increases back links for your sites and the credibility of the author's too.

innominds
08-19-2010, 11:43 AM
Instead of submitting article to article directories, do publish it on your website or blog first.

AnnM
08-19-2010, 02:09 PM
article submission is the best way to get quality backlinks and traffic. your article should be ideally 400-600 words long with quality content. submit it to high pr article directories. try deep linking which is more beneficial rather than just linking to your home page with each submission. every page on your site will get equal link juice this way

weblover50
08-20-2010, 10:11 AM
Instead of submitting article to article directories, do publish it on your website or blog first.

I have done this in the past and had little success. The article directories rank high and it is easier to get an article on the top page of google if it is on an article directory rather than on a blog or website.

morestar
08-21-2010, 08:02 PM
Yes. But as with anything, there are right and wrong ways of doing it. Rather than ask a question that at least 1000 others have asked, try searching on this forum. You will find more than enough info on the subject, I am sure.

I believe one of the reasons posting questions that have been asked before is because a question posed here can bring more traffic and answers than a previous post did - new ideas, new findings. Another benefit of allowing people to post questions that have already been posted before is in relation to Google's real time search (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/relevance-meets-real-time-web.html) results. The last reason would definitely be because new posts create pages and as kgun points out in his signature: Conversations create communities and conversions create profit.

So...


Instead of submitting article to article directories, do publish it on your website or blog first.

I tend to stick to this method for the most part. I prefer having more control over my content and taking the long-haul out of building up my site's own page rank and credibility. Although I don't do as you indicated and post an article on my property and then post it on someone elses property later...If I do it's rare.



...your article should be ideally 400-600 words long with quality content. submit it to high pr article directories...

Not really. We can see a number 1 ranking website with nothing but three lines of copy on it...links back to the page matter most but I agree that it must be quality content because no one will link to garbage or spam.



...try deep linking which is more beneficial rather than just linking to your home page with each submission...

I agree. Go for many of your internal pages and from many links.

williamc
08-22-2010, 01:17 AM
I believe one of the reasons posting questions that have been asked before is because a question posed here can bring more traffic and answers than a previous post did - new ideas, new findings.

Not when the topic is one that has always had the same reasoning behind it.


The last reason would definitely be because new posts create pages and as kgun points out in his signature: Conversations create communities and conversions create profit.

Actually no, redundancy creates a community that dies, when the more intelligent posters all leave due to it.

morestar
08-22-2010, 07:29 AM
Not when the topic is one that has always had the same reasoning behind it.



Actually no, redundancy creates a community that dies, when the more intelligent posters all leave due to it.

As you've said the question has been posted a thousand times and WebProWorld.com is still alive and kicking.

The responses generated may be the same nick-naks we've heard in the past but it's that elusive discovery or change in concept that may creep into an 'out-dated' question. There could be something new out there that someone may wish to share via a response rather than starting a new thread.

And of that same possibility I ask, do you want them to digg through the thousands of posts on the same topic and respond to those? Probably not.

If it was a valid forum rule this post would have been moderated and/or deleted.

We're looking at the end results, the creation of new pages and new discussions. Maybe this post shed no new light on the act of directory submissions but that remains to be seen with this and all 'redundant' posts.

How to rank on Google today may be different than it was a few weeks ago...and so the question 'how do you rank on Google?' would be a valid question - again although it's been asked a thousand times.

williamc
08-22-2010, 08:45 AM
How to rank on Google today may be different than it was a few weeks ago...and so the question 'how do you rank on Google?' would be a valid question - again although it's been asked a thousand times.

I think my post above already covered this exception?


Not when the topic is one that has always had the same reasoning behind it.

kgun
08-22-2010, 08:57 AM
Actually no, redundancy creates a community that dies, when the more intelligent posters all leave due to it.
But you are still here.

williamc
08-22-2010, 09:25 AM
But you are still here.

I sadly am too stubborn to leave easily. Too many are not, and are indeed gone.

morestar
08-22-2010, 10:06 AM
I sadly am too stubborn to leave easily. Too many are not, and are indeed gone.

And others will come...as long as we continue to build a positive community and out of those newcomers professionals and experts will arise.

user999
05-19-2011, 09:38 AM
Can anyone give advise on article submission does this help with SEO?

I can say from my experience that it works like a charm.
It drives traffic to your site. I have a niche forum for 4 years but never bothered to publicize it, it was/is successful on its own, but then I published an article at Google ranking 5 site, and that page has become first result for my targeted keywords in exactly 5 days

nicolebeckett
05-23-2011, 05:30 PM
It's not just about building backlinks on the article directories. After all, the page that your article is actually published on is a PR 0 page (sure, the home page of the site may have a much higher PR, but, remember, your article doesn't get published on the home page). The key to seeing backlink success with article marketing is to publish content that other site owners will want to syndicate (with your name and links attached, of course). If you publish a quality article that gets picked up and syndicated by a bunch of different websites, you'll get a backlink for each one of them. In fact, a quality article can generate dozens of backlinks thanks to syndication.

However, the key is publishing a *quality* article - meaning something that's chock full of solid facts and provides a compelling read. If you publish garbage (or even something that's full of spelling and grammar mistakes), no one's going to want to syndicate it.

angelica11
05-30-2011, 08:58 AM
Article submission is one of the most effective SEO techniques. It can help you boost your web presence immeasurably. Some of the reputable article directories in my opinion are ezine and isnare. Submitting to these directories is bound to enhance your web presence. Make sure to write quality articles that are keyword rich and search engine friendly. Articles have to be original. Plagiarism-free articles that are engaging and enticing are always appreciated by readers and search engines as well. Hire professional SEO writers if you don’t have the required writing skills. They can write on a variety of topics.

blind bandit
06-01-2011, 07:20 AM
article submission is another one way to make sure your blog will get good rank, but you should know the quality of that submission. Sometimes they just want to submit your article and publish their banner in your blog. But you not get anything of it.

I hope you can using automatic ping or blog directory or maybe Digg / stubmleupon.

As i know, blogwalking is the best way to make your content will be strong in search engine

martinclaybold
06-09-2011, 09:43 PM
Here's a brief list, where you can submit your articles for free and get the advantage of quality backlinks:

articlealley.com/
articledashboard.com/
articlesbase.com/
articlesnatch.com
amazines.com
articlerich.com
a1articles.com
articletrader.com/
articlemotron.com
affsphere.com/
articlebliss.com/
articlepool.com
articlesnare.com
articlecube.com
associatedcontent.com/
articlecity.com/
articlefair.com
articalize.com
adduparticles.com
articletake.com/index.php
articlesunit.com/index.php
articlecarrier.com
articlesclip.com
articlesset.com/index.php
articledizz.com
articlesonwire.com
articles4pr.com
articlelinkets.com
articlesocial.com
articlesblot.com
articlemediaz.com
articlequeue.com
articlenooze.com
articlemanza.com

I have a list of some more sites as well. PM me if you want it.

vikashony
07-18-2011, 08:41 AM
:smile:

Article submission becoming a puzzle !
Are they good or not after updating Google panda. According panda low quality and duplicate content may have less preference and it can be penalized as ezine article have lost ranking. But still remain question same in mind if we promote one article in two article directory and also add into our blog and website. what will be the impact on site.

Williamc said

Yes. But as with anything, there are right and wrong ways of doing it. Rather than ask a question that at least 1000 others have asked, try searching on this forum. You will find more than enough info on the subject, I am sure.

So what is really right way a for article promotion? Is little change on article possible to make fool to search engine or It will also calculated in duplicate content

mjtaylor
07-18-2011, 09:11 AM
I have stopped article marketing for clients, even on the better article directories. I think too many "self service" links coming from low quality sites may well be a negative ranking factor.

Instead, we are blogging on our own site and putting more and more energy into creating quality content.

greatar4
07-19-2011, 04:51 PM
Article marketing seems to not be as effective as it once was after the recent Google update. Despite of that, it can still be effective if it's done the right way. You should focus much more on producing content that are unique and high-quality. Getting links from unique content can have a greater impact on your site than links that you get from low quality content and duplicate content for the reason that those links tend to be not high quality. You should also submit your articles trough article directories that are reputable.

Webnauts
07-23-2011, 08:45 AM
Article marketing is not finding a topic, write an article about it and include one link or two, and publish it on several article directories. Also it is not just paying someone else to do all that for you, and you just provide the link destination and anchor text.

I am working as an SEO since 2006 and I always considered the common article marketing practices as pure scam or poor link building attempts, and not article marketing. If that is what you mean, I agree that it is dryed out or dead.

I expressed my opinion in full at the blog of Michael Martinez, in case you want to read more details what I am about http://www.seo-theory.com/2011/03/15/article-marketing-for-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-2082

Don't miss the following comments of Michael.

That said, if you do not know how article marketing works, you cannot claim that it is dryed out or dead. It is one of my link building strategies mix which I still use and it is more effective than ever before. Thank you Panda!

Just my two cents.

mjtaylor
07-23-2011, 01:59 PM
The way *you* do article marketing, webnauts, is not how most link builders do it. It may remain a viable tactic for you, but the mass marketing that's done on lower quality sites is what most people think of when the term 'article marketing' is used. Panda did seem to cut into that tactic, and none too soon.

Webnauts
07-26-2011, 08:23 AM
The way *you* do article marketing, webnauts, is not how most link builders do it. It may remain a viable tactic for you, but the mass marketing that's done on lower quality sites is what most people think of when the term 'article marketing' is used. Panda did seem to cut into that tactic, and none too soon.
If those link builders would closely follow up the search engines patents, they would never have fallen into such painful traps. Never mind. Panda Lives! :lol:

keyon
07-26-2011, 12:23 PM
I expressed my opinion in full at the blog of Michael Martinez
Hi, Webnauts,
Could you clarify something you said in the Martinez blog?

2. Each article is submitted to only one web site and only to well trafficed (popular) quality article directories and blogs...Again, they never submit one article to multiple sites.

The plural "directories" and "blogs" kind of confused me.

Is this an accurate rephrasing of your sentence:
2. Each article is submitted to only one web site. That website must be a well trafficed (popular) quality article directory or blog. Again, they never submit one article to multiple sites.


Thanks

mjtaylor
07-27-2011, 10:00 AM
Hi, Webnauts,
Could you clarify something you said in the Martinez blog?

2. Each article is submitted to only one web site and only to well trafficed (popular) quality article directories and blogs...Again, they never submit one article to multiple sites.

The plural "directories" and "blogs" kind of confused me.

Is this an accurate rephrasing of your sentence:
2. Each article is submitted to only one web site. That website must be a well trafficed (popular) quality article directory or blog. Again, they never submit one article to multiple sites.


Thanks

Absent Webnauts prompt reply, I would say, yes, your rephrasing is what he meant.

williamc
08-14-2011, 01:34 PM
SEO Optimized Banner Design Ok, I have to ask... what in the holy heck makes an image design have anything to do with SEO?

Webnauts
08-14-2011, 01:38 PM
William I thought exactly the same thing, but I did not dare to mention, because I thought I might violate any WPW guidelines or so. :roll:

Webnauts
08-18-2011, 09:46 PM
JennyJackson, just FYI, Panda have hit huge sites. And article submission are not always helpful to get backlinks from high PR directories. Also posting garbage in this forum trying to get enough of posts to get your signature in your posts displayed does not work either. So please stop spoiling the threads here. If you have too much free time, why don't you get your little bucket and go to the beach and build some sand towers. It could be more fun for you than spamming the forum here.

Thanks.

Webnauts
08-24-2011, 08:57 PM
Since the discussion here is about articles marketing, I thought of dropping an interesting link for the ones who have not read already: http://www.seobythesea.com/2011/08/early-google-panda-patents/

Glen Lawrence
08-25-2011, 05:08 AM
Won't competing websites be able to abuse that patent by falsely labeling their competitor's landing page as a "manipulative article" by spamming click throughs which will penalize the landing page's SERP ranking? I wonder how Google will deal with this.

deepsand
08-25-2011, 05:19 AM
Won't competing websites be able to abuse that patent by falsely labeling their competitor's landing page as a "manipulative article" by spamming click throughs which will penalize the landing page's SERP ranking? I wonder how Google will deal with this.
Most click fraud is readily detectable.

Glen Lawrence
08-26-2011, 04:57 AM
Most click fraud is readily detectable.
I have had a bad experience with that kind of foul play, so I'm rather skeptical of your statement. I tried contacting Google about it to no avail.

deepsand
08-26-2011, 06:01 PM
I have had a bad experience with that kind of foul play, so I'm rather skeptical of your statement. I tried contacting Google about it to no avail.
I said only that it's generally readily detectable, not that it's necessarily easy to get an SE's action.

From personal experience, I could relate horror stories re. PPC click fraud.

In re. the present case, those who might seek to engage in such fraud have long had the opportunity to do so, dating back to the initial Patent filing itself. And, given that it is Google's work itself that might be manipulated, and, unlike PPC fraud, with no potential gain to them, I suspect that this is an issue on which they would have proactively addressed.

LD
08-26-2011, 06:19 PM
From personal experience, I could relate horror stories re. PPC click fraud.

So how are the sellers of PPC getting around this subject these days? I'm curious as there was a PPC guy, a self-proclaimed "Google specialist" at a business networking meeting today who was trying to sell his wares to wide-eyed deer-in-the-headlight small biz owners. One check of this guy's company site and you'll find Organic SEO is being "ripped" to pieces. I could argue against every negative point made against Organic services, but it seems anyone trying to sell PPC services, that I've come across lately, shoots down organic. I don't see it the other way around much for Organic specialists ripping PPC, if at all.

Sorry to the OP for the aside.

deepsand
08-26-2011, 07:05 PM
The great advantage of PPC is that you have control of what is displayed when and where. It may not come cheaply; but it is nevertheless control, a such as is wholly lacking vis-a-vis organic listings.

LD
09-05-2011, 01:15 PM
The great advantage of PPC is that you have control of what is displayed when and where. It may not come cheaply; but it is nevertheless control, a such as is wholly lacking vis-a-vis organic listings.

Just thinking about this - how many PPC campaigns must one have to capture the most potential leads? And what about the cost to run multiple campaigns? In terms of Organic SEO, the work propagates out to all search engines, both those that have the greatest market share and those that aren't so popular too.

Sorry - possibly another aside. This may be better as a new thread?

deepsand
09-05-2011, 08:47 PM
Just thinking about this - how many PPC campaigns must one have to capture the most potential leads? And what about the cost to run multiple campaigns? In terms of Organic SEO, the work propagates out to all search engines, both those that have the greatest market share and those that aren't so popular too.
Which, of course, means that it cannot be individually well tailored to either the SE or the target audience and their search habits; PPC, of course, much more easily accommodates such needs.

SEO = shotgun; SEM = rifle.

LD
09-05-2011, 08:59 PM
... well tailored to either the SE or the target audience and their search habits...

I understand. The "shotgun", "rifle comparison makes a lot of sense. Knowing some of the above info would be a definite advantage, however I wouldn't know where to begin looking to analyze the above criteria for individual SEs. Any suggestions?

deepsand
09-05-2011, 09:48 PM
Demographic data at no charge are very hard to find.

For the SMB, in addition to the obvious keyword/phrase testing, use demographic/geographic targeting options offered by PPC syndicators and test for results.

Webnauts
09-11-2011, 02:57 AM
Not when the topic is one that has always had the same reasoning behind it.



Actually no, redundancy creates a community that dies, when the more intelligent posters all leave due to it.
Well I would not call myself an intelligent poster, but that is one of the main reasons I am no more around here...

Glen Lawrence
10-12-2011, 08:48 PM
Which, of course, means that it cannot be individually well tailored to either the SE or the target audience and their search habits; PPC, of course, much more easily accommodates such needs.

SEO = shotgun; SEM = rifle.

I bet to differ. The way I see it, SEM = frag grenade; SEO = one of the many shrapnel.

crancor1
10-17-2011, 10:53 AM
Hi All,

I have been trying to learn SEO for over 20 years. It never hurts to hear valid, repeated information. Almost every time I read a new thread, I learn something new.

If people explained in more detail, maybe SEO wouldn't be such a nightmare for those of us who are not computer geeks.

My 10 cents on article submission.
This may not be 'tekky worded' but it is what I have learned after reading for years as no one seems to give precise and detailed steps on how this actually works.

Select a directory with a high PR ranking such as ezine articles-PR6.
Just query Google for a list of the highest PR ranking article submission websites
Your get more 'juice' than going with a PR 2 or3 site. More people read it so your chances of your link being pick up by others is also greater.
Submit 1 article to 1 directory only.
Do not submit the same article to more than 1 directory - the serps see this as spam and you could be penalized.
Make sure you put in info about the author, at the end, you can get your website name posted in that area as well.
Make sure your article is ALREADY posted on your website or blogsite before you submit it to an article company.
That way you will get the credit for it on your site and you will get the credit back to your site from other people who use your link, regardless where it is posted or where they found it.
If you don't do this first, the link juice or credit will go back to the article company and you will lose the benefit of all back links.

Within your article try and use some of your best keyword phrases (usually 2 to 4 words max). Don't overdo it or it will appear too spammy.
If you don't know your best keywords, search google under businsses doing the same thing as you and look at the snippets of info the top 3-5 sites use or compare their keywords on SEO Centro or other such meta tag analyser sites.
Regardless of what any SEO expert tells you, meta tags do count - maybe not as much as they used to but they count. Most companies use their top keywords somewhere in their meta title and meta description.

Hope this helps. If it does, pass it on.

Patti

williamc
10-19-2011, 03:26 AM
I have been trying to learn SEO for over 20 years.

Really? What engine did you first start with back then?

deepsand
10-19-2011, 03:34 AM
Can I answer? Huh? Huh?

amabaie
10-20-2011, 10:11 AM
Really? What engine did you first start with back then?

LOL. The funniest line in this thread. I was doing SEO with my file cabinet 20 years ago. :-)

Glen Lawrence
10-21-2011, 05:15 AM
Can I answer? Huh? Huh?

I'd love to hear that, deepsand. You seem to be extremely knowledgeable in SEO and Internet marketing, almost as if you come from Google itself... you even know formulas and stuff.

williamc
10-25-2011, 05:21 AM
Can I answer? Huh? Huh?


LOL. The funniest line in this thread. I was doing SEO with my file cabinet 20 years ago. :-)


Well at least a few people caught it :)

deepsand
10-25-2011, 11:35 PM
Well at least a few people caught it :)
The million dollar question now is how many of the others that should be blushing aren't.