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Damo
06-02-2010, 08:38 PM
Hi Folks,

I have a hosting client (have hosted them ~12 years now), who hired an 'SEO Consultant' back at the start of the year - the consultant proceeded to do basically nothing, so they dumped them.. Couple of days later all the pages on their site were edited to remove all meta tags - thankfully we keep a diff of site changes every day, so once they noticed their rankings dropping, we spotted it, and were able to roll them back to the day before it happened, and change their FTP details. At the same time, their google places listing, which had been coming up #1 for 'hotel canberra', 'functions canberra', and 'conferences canberra' for a good 2-3 years, started showing up on about page five of the results in google maps, so we're assuming something was changed on the Places entry as well..

I posted a couple of questions to the google help discussion boards, as the places entry says it's an 'owner verified listing', but noone at the client knows anything about it. I was asking if there was any way to find out WHO the owner was.. Big zip of replies to that, so after a bit of reading of the forums, I went and created them a google account (as webmaster in theirdomain, so they don't have any hassles if staff or contractors change, etc), and created a google places entry. As expected after reading some of the help replies, it asked if I wanted to claim the existing listing, which I did.. - went through phone authentication (btw, that's seriously painful that it wants phone auth EVERY time you make a change, when you're 500km from the client!), and a few days later the new listing appeared in the search results..

Although it now seems to have disappeared - even when searching by the exact title.. - All I get is the existing one?? (Kurrajong Hotel Canberra, btw)

is anyone able to give me any pointers on either a) finding out who the 'verified owner' of the original listing (I can tell the difference between the two, the original says barton, canberra, act. the new says barton, act) is, and somehow transferring it across to the client.. or b) actually properly replace the old listing with the new one I created?

I was under the impression that if you 'claimed' an existing listing, the existing listing would dissappear, and the new one take it's place.. - but that doesn't seem to have happened, infact the new listing which WAS showing up a week ago, is no longer showing in searches..

Any thoughts MUCHLY appreciated - While I've done a LOT with the google maps API for vehicle tracking etc, I haven't had anything to do with the Google Places part of it, and I'm seriously confused with what's going on..

Thanks,

Damien

danlefree
06-03-2010, 05:33 AM
It sounds as though your helpful "SEO Consultant" is using Google's Webmaster Tools (https://www.google.com/webmasters/) to sabotage the site.

Check the site's head tags for a snippet that looks like this:


<meta name="google-site-verification" content="iEiJs8CyyqlHNDFrity-7eOnlJoH-1k4Ef55zCXOFSE" />

... and check the web root for a file named something like this:


google6ebb6b02487f5e7f.html

If you can confirm that Webmaster Tools was used to tamper with your site, delete the files or tags used to allow the "consultant" verification, then verify on your own Google Webmaster Tools account and get in touch with Google to re-include your site.

I would also pursue some form of legal action against the "consultant" if you have evidence that he or she was responsible for malicious actions against your client's ranking.

Tiggerito
06-03-2010, 12:09 PM
For Google places you could click on the "report a problem" link for the claimed entry (It's under the "more" options) and hope they respond. The entry looks very good though. Maybe you dropped ranking due to some other factors.

Following on from danlefree, check for any file with random characters in it. There are a lot of systems out there that use it to provide access to see and edit information on your website (bing, yahoo...)

Doc
06-03-2010, 04:21 PM
Adding to mccreath's comment, I would suggest you also review the "permission" codes on all your files, and go through any htaccess files with a fine-tooth comb.

And definitely go after this guy, if there's evidence of tampering/sabotage!

Damo
06-03-2010, 07:12 PM
Ok, bizarre - I went to look this morning to do the 'report a problem' thing, and what do you know? the old listing has dissappeared, and the new one now has all of its reviews, info links from other sites, etc!

Ok, so one more question.. - how does one get a places listing higher in the search results on google maps? The actual website itself is doing fairly well for their target terms in normal google... Any pointers on how to get the places listing back into at least the first page of results on maps? :)

Thanks,

Damien

Tiggerito
06-04-2010, 12:58 AM
It might just need some time for Google to settle on it again.

Maybe just tweak the odd thing. It might trigger them to re-asses you faster. Change a category, update some images, post an event.

Or even re-do your keyword analysis and adjust categories and copy to reflect the latest phrases.

confettiguru
06-07-2010, 04:56 PM
And definitely go after this guy, if there's evidence of tampering/sabotage!

I wholeheartedly agree, go after this guy. I had an in house webmaster who was fired for doing less than nothing. I didn't think to drop him from access to our site for a day or so. He went in and screwed with our site to the point that it took serious time to fix. (More work than he ever did while he was being paid) This was several years ago
and sadly I didn't go after him legally. I should have!!! That was an eyeopener to me to really understand both HTML and SEO. It's hard to delegate what you don't understand.