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Old 05-26-2009, 03:53 AM
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Default IE8 No PNG images at all???

I can't seem to find anything on the web about this. I just noticed that IE8 does not load .png images AT ALL. (box with red X in it)

This isn't the ongoing saga of transparency and alpha channels folks! I mean ANY .png file from ANY website will not load in my install of IE8. All other browsers are ok (FF, Opera, Chrome, and Safari)

I've confirmed the default file association in Vista for .png files is the Windows Picture Viewer and they load just fine in that program.

Anyone heard of this problem before? Any Suggestions?

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Old 05-26-2009, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

correction: Windows Picture Viewer = Windows Photo Gallery

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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Works fine for me in IE8. Maybe there's a setting somewhere you need to check.
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Works perfectly fine for me, including the transparency (see Portable Network Graphics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for a good sample image). Is it possible you have an overzealous firewall or antivirus software that is blocking the images?
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Old 05-26-2009, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

I am sure the problem is related to my specific home install.

1) only specific to the instance of my ie8 install on my vista home machine because I am typing this from my work pc with ie8 and png's load just fine as well as transparency.

2) doubt it is firewall related as my other browsers load just fine.

3) I also noticed that going to >> help >> about internet explorer also shows empty box with red x for the ie 8 image in the about window?

3a) I am getting the feeling that this might be a reg fix type thing but don't know where to go because you can't un-install and re-install ie in windows.

3b) I can't find any reports of this problem anywhere on the web? maybe try ms technet?
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Add this to your <head> section:

<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7" />
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Great idea. I'll try it on my site. But...

Did I also mention this happens for any png on any site anywhere in the world from my home vista install of ie8? I also tried compatability view with same result.

It didn't use to always be like this. I just happened to notice it and am not sure how long it's been like this because I don't tpically use ie. I really only use the browser when testing.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

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Add this to your <head> section:

<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7" />
And why would you want to emulate IE7? It is a badly flawed browser. Apart from anythingelse that is not addressing the issue.
Have you seen https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/fee...dbackID=389191

I sometimes have this problem in FireFox and have to reupload the image.

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Old 05-26-2009, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

I agree, the idea is only as great as seeing if emulating a different version corrects the problem, then I would look further at the ie8 core within my installation.

I did see that thread before creating this one. Here is why I don't beleive it appies to me.

1) My site uses "img" tag and not "object". (if I change to object, then quicktime will load the png but causes undesireable load times)

2) Again, this happens with any png on any site anywhere using my home computer and ie8. It doesn't happen in other browsers and it doesn't happen from other pc's running ie8.

Knowing these things, I have a specific problem with my install of ie8 and doesn't seem logical to have anything to do with how my site is coded. I started in the right forum, thinking it was something like an ie condition or similar but now is evident I have a problem with my ie8 install as it relates to loading png files. All other images are fine. Now I am on the hunt for a cure and I can't find anyone else that's had this problem. As with any other app, I would simply un-install/re-install, but since MS has built their browser into the OS, how do you do get around re-loading the OS?

Surely someone has had this problem?
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Old 05-26-2009, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Funny, my IE8 doesn't load anything.

Well, at least not until I reset preferences and restart the computer... then it works for a couple of days... although, interestingly enough, the only preference I ever set is: "IE8 is NOT my preferred browser, and don't ask again" ...hmmmmm
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Are you using the final release version?

I think the earlier versions (pre-release) had an issue with

Try associating .png images with 'Windows Picture and Fax viewer' or remove the file type altogether and then add back in again to restore its defaults.

See this for the pre release IE8 problem:

(Sorry, can't post links, under 10 posts!)

but google: FeedbackID=389191

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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Well, I had problems viewing chinese characters in some websites for IE8. What I did to resolve is going to the Tools setting for Compatibility View Settings and set it Display all websites in Compatibility View.

This has resolved all my issues for viewing chinese characters.

Maybe you can try this?

Btw, I do not have problem viewing PNG images.
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Wow, just seems like neverending trouble with ie8! what do you mean you cant uninstall it and reinstall though?
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Although IE8 can't be uninstalled, you should be able to download and reinstall it from here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/Int...r/default.aspx

The first thing I would try would be disabling (I know, its risky, but just for a few moments) your antivirus and software firewall, and try viewing the .png image on wikipedia that I linked to before. This will at the very least rule out a problem caused by your security software.

If that does not resolve the issue, reactivate the software and open IE. Go to Tools > Internet Options > Advanced Tab > Reset. In addition to resetting the options for Internet Explorer, this should also reset all of the registry entries in case something got corrupted. If this doesn't fix the problem, then go ahead and try a reinstall.

As far as associating PNG with a specific application, I am not sure if that would have an effect. The browser knows to display the image internally, and should not be checking what program .png files are associated with. Also, on my computer I have .png associated with another image editing program and it doesn't seem to adversely affect the display of these images in IE.
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Why don't you upgrade to Firefox?

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Old 05-28-2009, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

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Why don't you upgrade to Firefox?

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Now whilst I am great fan of FireFox, I canot see how that solves this particular problem.
We have established that he can see everything in FireFox (although I have experienced issues with pngs not displaying in FF recently).

And for the record using FF is not an upgrade - it is an alternative. He could just as easily use Opera or Safari both of which pick up faults that FF leave behind!

However, it is his IE8 that is causing the problem and I for one would like to know how to resolve it.

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Old 05-28-2009, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

No problem here, with MSIE8 (6001) on WinXP.

I normally use Firefox or Opera but MSIE8 seems to work well on my 32-bit WinXP and 32-bit Windows 7RC (& on Windows 7 Beta 7000). These also have Windows Live installed.

I'd assumed that all common web browsers were capable of opening GIFs, JPGs and PNGs directly, without needing help from external programs. So I'm puzzled that your MS IE8 is using an external program.

Have you tried using "developer tools" in MSIE8? Would they help point to the problem?
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

Reinstall IE8 and make sure you have all the M$ updates
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

If you view the source for the web page, you would see .gif files were
being presented for the images, not .png files.

Web servers can see what web browser is connect to them. They can
present different web pages based on the web browser used. Javascript
can also detect which web browser is rendering a web page. It can
change the web page so its code matches the abilities of the web
browser. So that .png is seen for Firefox and .gif seen for Internet
Explorer means the server or Javascript decided to use a different file
to best match the abilities of the web browser being used.

PNG was not supported in all versions of web browsers. Some web sites
or pages will detect the version of the web browser and decide if it
supports PNG format. Some just want backward compatibility with as many
versions of a web browser as possible so they use the least common
denominator approach by using something that all versions of the web
browser can support.
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Default Re: IE8 No PNG images at all???

you're not alone.

skipping win SP3 update with XP professionell after severe problems with missing files, probably taken away from false virus detections in the past , my IE8.0.6 does not display any .png images as well. (?)
NO : the wikipedia link is working!

still so far I haven't found any help just like you.

Microsoft still does not provide any help.

does anybody have new ideas

infact my f-secure virus control search results on google have png-symbols for a safe site that are not displayed

Firefox is working fine instead.

greetings from proudmary ,average user

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