php or asp.net as a career ?

[etch]

i'm starting to work in a small company that uses php as its default web developing language , and have another chance to go to another company with asp.net as its default developing language ,,,

my knowledge with asp.net is the same with php ,,, just starting around :P

my question is what to choose to start my career with ? php or asp.net company ?

[web_tech]

I would prefer asp.net for your career. It will be benefited for your future.

All the best!

kunal

[greg.uk]

I would say PHP. PHP is available for ALL platforms. ASP.NET only runs on Windows.
Most web servers are Linux with PHP installed by default.

Greg
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Sites4All - Web Hosting & Design in Chandlers Ford, Eastleigh, Southampton, Winchester, Romsey, Hampshire, UK

[kgun]

You find some very personal hints in my signature at the Norwegian W3 Schools forum.

Let us play the name space game. - W3Schools Forum

[wilsonweb]

Java and JSP are more respected.

[kgun]

What do you mean by that? Then, I could add. C++ is even more respected, especially Borland C++ Builder 2009

But Borland is not the best on Ad.

All of these languages are C inspired languages:

Begin = {

End = }

++, +- operators and more.

If you learn C++, the rest of these C inspired languages are easy to learn.

But PHP has the largest online community, is easiest to learn, has a lot of class libraries and plugins. It is said that 99 per cent of your PHP problems are already solved if you can do the relevant search. You don't need to reinvent the wheel.

PHP may be good enough for more than 50 % of your online programming needs and sometimes good enough is best.


php or asp.net as a career ?

The answer should be, learn to program, especially in C++.

[wilsonweb]

My 1st sites where ASP, then I switched to PHP and loved it. For my personal stuff I've always used PHP, and you're correct, the learning curve is awesome. The problem is when I've gone to get a job to advance my career they are like oh, PHP, that's good you can code, but we require java experience; as if to say that PHP people are hacks or something, But then I learn a little JSP and they act like oh wow, - Java. I don't work in HR, I don't really understand why most sites are PHP but the big companies are requiring us to use the sometimes unnecessary complexities of java.

For the loving of coding, I've been very pleased with PHP, but now that I have a baby and need to make money then non-coder HR community is forcing me into the JSP class.

I don't miss ASP.

[maneetpuri]

Originally Posted by etch

i'm starting to work in a small company that uses php as its default web developing language , and have another chance to go to another company with asp.net as its default developing language ,,,

my knowledge with asp.net is the same with php ,,, just starting around :P

my question is what to choose to start my career with ? php or asp.net company ?

Hi,

Both PHP and ASP.NET are of equal demand in the industry. And its my person experience that if you well learnt any language its not tough for you to migrate to another one, as your logics will be clear, you would know how implementations is done the only thing you will have to learn will be the syntax and specific concepts of the new language, which does not take much time.

Now for the career perspective, if the other company is bigger then the one you are working with then I would say jump to ASP.NET and if both the companies are same size and offering you the same kind of package then stick to the one you are in.

Best of Luck for your Career,

Cheers,

[martinmarzejon]

It really depends on the career path you want to follow. Here are some very general guidelines.

If you want to work for one of the Fortune 100 companies (financial, pharma, etc.) you are better off knowing .NET. Many of these companies have systems running on JAVA and .NET, but very few (if any) in PHP.

If on the other hand you wish to pursue a career in any other environment, you can go far with PHP. You will most likely develop more "current" applications instead of supporting and extending legacy code.

There are some cutting edge companies and there are some "safe" companies. Ultimately, you will have to make the decision where you belong. You have a lot of choices; JAVA, .NET, PHP, RUBY, PYTHON and yes, even COBOL (if you want a nice steady paycheck).

~m

[Chiefos]

It always makes me chuckle when I see the PHP guys suggesting that theirs is the better platform because its cross platform, cheaper and more wide spread.

The funny thing about this is who would you rather be working for anyway? The company that spends tens of thousands on server and software infrastructure or one that signs up to one of the many, many shared hosting companies run by 2 guys in a basement somewhere. Php hosting company's are everywhere because its cheap for them to set up.

Now, for my suggestion...

Php all the way!!! You'll get paid less, you will *probably* not ever learn as much or be as good a developer as the Java/.NET guys, but you'll likely enjoy your job more. Why? Because you will likely be working in some easy going new media company where everyone goes for drinks on a daily basis and there are even a few hot women scattered around.

If you do choose the .NET route though, learn Java in parallel as there are major similarities. Oh, and avoid the WebForms framework like the plague (look at MonoRail or ASP.NT MVC).

[southplatte]

I originally started using Classic ASP, then switched to PHP - that was back in 2003.

Now, having just left a company and looking for employment, I find about an equal amount of PHP and ASP.net job openings in my particular area. One caveat: the .Net seems to have a higher pay scale.

What I have is close to 5 years PHP experience, 4 of that design web apps and sites, 1.5 years Java training using official Sun curriculum and enough .Net experience I can make code changes and code simple tasks.

Still unemployed though. So you take your chances either way - depends upon the market where you live and/or work, and where you want to live and work. If the market is .Net there, you may find a .Net programmer on every corner, just like in my area there is a PHP programmer on every corner....though as we all know, some better than others. So why not diversify? Learn more than one and stand apart from the next guy in line?

[Chiefos]

@southplatte - you still unemployed? You sound like you may be a decent developer. It days your location is Colorado do maybe you should just get your ass out of southpark and to a real City

Anyways, southplatte is spot on and heres the hot markets right now:

Google Android (Java based) - Download the Android SDK - Android
Adobe Air (Flash/Flex)- Adobe ? Adobe AIR Developer Center
WCF and SilverLight (.NET)- Windows Communication Foundation
IPhone (Objective C, not for the faint hearted!!)- iPhone Dev Center

As for php and .NET, well you can pretty much be up and running with both of them in a few days. But to be half way decent I suggest looking at (and I mean for more than 10 mins) and learning some frameworks i.e.

php:

symfony | Web PHP Framework - MVC framework
Doctrine - Free Open Source PHP ORM - ORM for php
PHPUnit - php test framework
Smarty : Template Engine - A great php template engine

ASP.NET

ASP.NET MVC : The Official Microsoft ASP.NET Site OR MonoRail :: Castle Project - MVC framework for .NET
Download :: Castle Project - Castle Windsor IoC Container (and other goodies)
hibernate.org - NHibernate for .NET - NHibernate ORM

Also, if NHibernate is a bit too dry for you and you want quick and simple DAL try Active record:

ActiveRecord :: Castle Project
altinoren.com - ActiveWriter Introduction - And a great visual studios plugin to automate the whole thing

Aside from the we side of .NET look at:

Windows Mobile Developer Network - Resource for Wireless Application Development - windows mobile (quite fun)
Getting Started with Windows Communication Foundation - WCF aka .NET web services and remoting framework (a bit dry but a definate requirment).

Bookmark, follow link and learn. Or disregard all that I have said and spend 4 years slowly catching up .

[kgun]

Good resources.

I miss the Borland C++ Builder 2009 platform in your list, but you may have noted my above link.

Time to repeat this thread: A soft introduction to object oriented programming.

[sushil]

php is good language I think you should go for the php language.

[kgun]

Microsoft says:

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More information:

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