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Old 10-22-2008, 02:14 PM
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Default Silicone Wristbands

If anyone has a little time I need to get some ideas for a new silicone wristband design I'm working on.

The site is Silicone Wristbands Custom Silicone Bracelets and Rubber Bracelets and please be as hard on the design as you can.

Thanks so much and I'll give everyone who helps some green rep.
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Hi Janeth, I wonder if anyone has ever considered creating a catalogue of meanings for jewelry and body ornaments.
We all know and understand the wedding ring for example, it is worn on a particular finger to deliver a message " I am married".

I wonder if creating a colour code on bracelets could be gimicy enough to start a hidden language for those in the 'know'. . . for example a blue and white stripe could simply say "I am Gay" a red band could add the message 'but I am available"

I am sure, a colour code could be worked out. . Young people like to be in the know. If I were to take a guess, a simple book explaining things like what an earring through the left nostril means. . or other such silly stuff could be very popular. . .

I often wonder. . I have wondered if a ring through the tongue actually sends a specific message? . . I am 60 plus in years, I would like a book to explain any hidden language that I might not be aware of. .

If There are no rules. . . I think you should create some.

I might just get a red one. . let all them old ladies know that I still have bit of life left in me (available (red) come and get me) maybe add a double black stripe to say (casual flings only)
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Hi Janeth, I wonder if anyone has ever considered creating a catalogue of meanings for jewelry and body ornaments.
We all know and understand the wedding ring for example, it is worn on a particular finger to deliver a message " I am married".

I wonder if creating a colour code on bracelets could be gimicy enough to start a hidden language for those in the 'know'. . . for example a blue and white stripe could simply say "I am Gay" a red band could add the message 'but I am available"

I am sure, a colour code could be worked out. . Young people like to be in the know. If I were to take a guess, a simple book explaining things like what an earring through the left nostril means. . or other such silly stuff could be very popular. . .

I often wonder. . I have wondered if a ring through the tongue actually sends a specific message? . . I am 60 plus in years, I would like a book to explain any hidden language that I might not be aware of. .

If There are no rules. . . I think you should create some.

[COLOR="Blue"]I might just get a red one. . let all them old ladies know that I still have bit of life left in me (available (red) come and get me) maybe add a double black tripe to say (casual flings only)[/COLOR]
I think it's a great idea.

I'll do some research and see what I can find out.

Thanks a bunch.
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I did some minor research (face and body jewelry) about two years ago. My youngest son was always bringing girls home with rings in unusual places. The young people my son knew like the idea of a message in certain placements.

I thought at the time that the 'Fear Factor' seemed huge. I recall one girls saying 'what if I had three rings in my right ear and it meant something . . . and I id not know?'

I did make a note that the book needed writing. less complicated with bracelets.
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I don't care for the white text on black background. More difficult to read than black on white. I think you should ask yourself: who is the target audience? In particular, how old are the people who actually buy your products?

The new site is so "colorless". The old site was much "happier".
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I don't care for the white text on black background. More difficult to read than black on white. I think you should ask yourself: who is the target audience? In particular, how old are the people who actually buy your products?

The new site is so "colorless". The old site was much "happier".
I've still got the old site but was wanting to do some testing with another site. But maybe you are correct and we have gone in the wrong direction.
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  1. The title tag could have been shorter, more foccused.
  2. I like the design.
  3. Personally when you click "home" I prefer for linking purposes to be redirected to

    popularribbons.com

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    popularribbons.com/index.php
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If anyone has a little time I need to get some ideas for a new silicone wristband design I'm working on.

The site is Silicone Wristbands Custom Silicone Bracelets and Rubber Bracelets and please be as hard on the design as you can.

Thanks so much and I'll give everyone who helps some green rep.
I looked at it for 30 seconds. I had to read to figure out what I was looking at. I didn't feel drawn into navigation right away. If you could leave me with one message in 5 seconds, what would it be? I got several messages, and it took me time to add 2 + 2.
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I've made a couple changes to the design. Please let me know what you think now.

Thanks so much.

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Pretty solid layout, only real complaint is that I HATE the Arial font.

Also, you could very easily ditch a lot of the javascript and go for pure CSS rollovers for the menu. It'd lighten your markup up a bit.
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Pretty solid layout, only real complaint is that I HATE the Arial font.

Also, you could very easily ditch a lot of the javascript and go for pure CSS rollovers for the menu. It'd lighten your markup up a bit.
I actually decided to go with a different design but use it on another site. I put the new design here Silicone Wristbands Custom Silicone Bracelets and Rubber Bracelets

The site was getting more traffic and I needed to move fast to try and convert more of it.
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Few things to point out..

the first link you posted, I would never buy from. There are 3-4 different sites being mentioned in the coding, wristbands-with-a-message being one of them.. if it is a legit site, it would not be doing this. If you are trying to be an affiliate you should hide it better.

The second site I still wouldn't buy from. Get a real domain (.com) and not a subdomain. All of the sites are cross linking between each other. I doubt this is good for your SEO. The coding itself is done very poorly.. tables, inline styles, inline javascript, etc.. but I've seen a LOT worse. When you go to order, it takes you to a completely different site. Sure, you may own that site too but the average user won't know that. It looks like a scam to me. Also there is no SSL.. why don't you have a certificate? Any real business would be able to afford one. Also the graphics on all of the sites do not really match or give a clear definition of what is being sold. the wristbands with a message is probably the best design (even though it's pretty outdated). It also looks like you made the site in dreamweaver or some kind of wysiwyg.

Anyways good job hope that helps!
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Few things to point out..

the first link you posted, I would never buy from. There are 3-4 different sites being mentioned in the coding, wristbands-with-a-message being one of them.. if it is a legit site, it would not be doing this.
It is a legit site and it does that. How about that?

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The second site I still wouldn't buy from. Get a real domain (.com) and not a subdomain.
I have a real domain name. As a matter of fact last time I checked it was around 200 real domain main names.

And the site you are now talking about does around $1,000.00 per week, $4,000.00 per month with that sub domain name. I asked about the site design not the name.

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All of the sites are cross linking between each other. I doubt this is good for your SEO.
That is a problem that is being fixed now.


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The coding itself is done very poorly.. tables, inline styles, inline javascript, etc.. but I've seen a LOT worse.
Seeing as how it is a tabless design those tables must be a little hard to find.

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When you go to order, it takes you to a completely different site.
This is something that I've felt might end up being a problem. But a problem that can be overcome with enough traffic.

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Also there is no SSL.. why don't you have a certificate?
On the main site were you would place your order there is an SSL. There is no reason to have one on the affiliate site.

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Any real business would be able to afford one.
Once again, there is no reason to have one on a site that is not selling anything.

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Also the graphics on all of the sites do not really match or give a clear definition of what is being sold. the wristbands with a message is probably the best design (even though it's pretty outdated). It also looks like you made the site in dreamweaver or some kind of wysiwyg.

Anyways good job hope that helps!
What is the problem with doing a site in dreamweaver or a wysiwyg?

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Any real business would be able to afford one. Also the graphics on all of the sites do not really match or give a clear definition of what is being sold. the wristbands with a message is probably the best design (even though it's pretty outdated). It also looks like you made the site in dreamweaver or some kind of wysiwyg.
I'd love to see a site that you've done so I can get a better understand what I should be working towards.

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No need to get defensive. Don't put your site up for review unless you are open to suggestions.



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What you should be working for, is a website that will attract new visitors, keep them on the site, make them want to buy, and get returning visitors back. Maybe I'm a little harsh because I actually program from hand and know the difference between a real site and something hacked up with a program. You should as a "programmer" be working towards a cross browser, compliant website, that passes validation and coded properly. Why your website has 4 closing </html> tags is beyond me. Maybe it's the fact that you don't know how to actual write code. I understand, everyone has to start out somewhere!

Tabless design? Sure you can claim that all day.. let's just hope that people reading those claims don't look at the coding on the pages beyond the index! What a let down that would be!!!

You can throw numbers around all you want, but I highly doubt you are racking in $4000 a month from a subdomain that has hardly any links on google.... and even less that are actually relevant. Sorry, but craigslist links don't count in my book. If you were really making that much money, I would think you would be able to afford someone to make you a real website.
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No need to get defensive. Don't put your site up for review unless you are open to suggestions.
Your post was pretty much an attack and I responded likewise. There was nothing of use in your post.
Comments like;

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if it is a legit site, it would not be doing this

It is meant to imply that myself and my site are not legit. No reason for the comment.

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The coding itself is done very poorly.. tables, inline styles, inline javascript, etc.

Another comment that points to something without giving any detail, a worthless comment.

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It looks like a scam to me.

Another worthless comment

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Also there is no SSL.

An untrue comment

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Any real business would be able to afford one.

Meant to imply that I can not afford an SSL.

Maybe you should learn how to post without making attacks and we want have any problems. It is one thing to give advice and try and help out but another to try and be an ass.

I do not like any of the sites. Maybe we just have a big difference in taste because there is not one site in that list that I would want to call my own.

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What you should be working for, is a website that will attract new visitors, keep them on the site, make them want to buy, and get returning visitors back.
No shit. Thanks so much for that information. I had no idea.

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Maybe I'm a little harsh
Vague would be more like it.

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because I actually program from hand and know the difference between a real site and something hacked up with a program.
Do you want a cookie?

My site is not hacked up.

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You should as a "programmer" be working towards a cross browser, compliant website, that passes validation and coded properly..
My website works in all the main browsers. And as it being compliant, which would take all of about 3 seconds to make it so, has nothing to do with rather it works in all browsers or not.

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Why your website has 4 closing </html> tags is beyond me.
And which page are you looking at?

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Maybe it's the fact that you don't know how to actual write code. I understand, everyone has to start out somewhere!
And I do understand that as well. Maybe before long you'll catch up with the times and learn dreamweaver or maybe it is a money thing.


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Tabless design? Sure you can claim that all day.. let's just hope that people reading those claims don't look at the coding on the pages beyond the index! What a let down that would be!!!!
I'm currently only working on the home page. But all those other pages will be the same before long. And I have to wonder why it is that you would accuse me of so much when the home page itself should prove I know what I'm doing.


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You can throw numbers around all you want, but I highly doubt you are racking in $4000 a month from a subdomain that has hardly any links on google.... and even less that are actually relevant.
Just because you lie does not mean that everyone else lies. But glad you are here to point out what is and is not relevant.





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Sorry, but craigslist links don't count in my book..
lol, and why would I care what you think does and does not count?

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If you were really making that much money, I would think you would be able to afford someone to make you a real website.
I've got a group of designers that work right here, and if I needed a designer it for sure would not be you.

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No wonder nobody on this site likes you. LOL
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No wonder nobody on this site likes you. LOL
And yet, once again, you are able to show how little you actually know.
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janeth..


I'd love to see a site you actually programmed from hand so I can get a better understand what I should be working towards.
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No wonder nobody on this site likes you. LOL

I for one have huge respect for Janeth.

I think myself that I would be a little wary of speaking on behalf of people I had have never met.

You said
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janeth..


I'd love to see a site you actually programmed from hand so I can get a better understand what I should be working towards.
I do not program or design and have no desire to learn either and even less desire to prove anything to you.
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I for one have huge respect for Janeth.

I think myself that I would be a little wary of speaking on behalf of people I had have never met.

You said
"No wonder nobody on this site likes you." Did I misread that?
Thanks Tubby, I have no idea who the guy is but he seems to think a lot more of himself than I do.

If you look at his past post he seems to spend more time being rude and ugly than anything else.
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Looks fab to me! Kudos to janeth.

Warm Regards,


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Bath . . I used to pedal my bike through Bath on my way to Bristol during the early 60s. . I used to love the downhill run into bath. I recently finished a small building project and I designed it using a half circle pattern that was based on my memory of a view looking down on the town. Of course it was an old memory. . But the bath inspiration gave me the look I was after. We do not have any towns that old in Australia.

Nice memory jog for me.
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Looks fab to me! Kudos to janeth.

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No wonder nobody on this site likes you. LOL
janeth rocks. you on the other hand seem a bit full of it.

not being techie enough to hand code in notepad is entirely irrelevant. oh "dreamweaver"

serps couldn't care less about validation and a lot of people are too busy making money to care much either.
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janeth rocks. you on the other hand seem a bit full of it.

not being techie enough to hand code in notepad is entirely irrelevant. oh "dreamweaver"

serps couldn't care less about validation and a lot of people are too busy making money to care much either.
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I think a lot of people get so hung up on little things there unable to see the big picture.
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This link has lots of missing pictures and the page seems to go forever. Also has different width in places. Clicking on Contact us brings no information on location or phones. Not even email. But you are targeting kids and they probably don't mind. Overall inconsistent design.
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This link has lots of missing pictures and the page seems to go forever. Also has different width in places. Clicking on Contact us brings no information on location or phones. Not even email.
The site is a total of around 3,000 pages. We have 3,000 pages of unique content that we are adding to the site now and it is not 100% finished by far.

The inner pages of the site are changing and being fixed by the minute.

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But you are targeting kids and they probably don't mind.

No the target market would be more in line with funraising for schools.

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Overall inconsistent design.
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That is untrue as the header and top part of the page are the same on every page.
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Hi, Janeth...The site looks very nice and colorful -- attracts the eyes. The cartoon characters (personally) I would do without. If I'm not mistaken, you are from So. America? I am from Brazil, and they often have these cartoon characters which in my opinion, do not relate to the American audience.

While on custom-silicone-wristbands.php page, it sure took me a while scrolling down to actually begin building my bracelet. And when I got to the "Enter your text here" black box, I clicked on it...and clicked on it...until I realized it's not a text box. I (again) scrolled down further and, Ah! Here is the text box. I add the qty to the cart but it seemed like forever for the cart page to appear. The page before Delivery Confirmation also must have taken forever...

I like the Check Out Progress Bar; why not begin it on the first checkout page?

Overall, nice work.

Now, to your business side. I entered a qty of 100 and got a price of $179. There are a lot other websites (one of which I've already used "Band-Together") who's prices are cheaper than yours (or your client's). I Paid $129 for qty 100 + free US shipping. Naturally, I found out their Chinese partners manufactured and shipped them directly overseas to me. Are your/your client's bracelets manufactured in the US? If so, that explains the price.

Good luck in your venture!

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