Hi Janeth
One question at a time:
" But it is. You have to build your website and design for the customer and work the
SEO in after that. "
What can I say, beyond repeating the previous post. If an
SEO specialist happens to be building a site for themself, do you think they make the site with their
SEO brain turned off, then go back and start again. Why should other creators not be encouraged to consider the implications of their actions.
"I think you've taken the whole
SEO thing a bit to far. There are a lot of ways to get traffic to a website."
I don't believe you can take
SEO too far, but that is a biased view and I whole heartedly agree with yours. This was was I meant in part of my post, such as:
"Can you explain how the company T short is going to help me rank?"
By making sure the URL is on the T shirt. Visibility, awareness, traffic, link potential etc.
"Google is monitoring the phone lines for ranking purposes?"
Every call is an opportunity to ensure every customer knows about your website.
"I'll let my graphic design know that Google is watching each key he touches in the design process. Do you know which keys are best touched for ranking, we might should touch those twice."
In a sense, Google is watching every key. Let me give you a small example, posting their URL isn't my way, without express permission but try searching for a UK company called Ocado. After not very long, their developer was taken aside, to understand the relevance of
SEO in every action he considered (every keystroke if you like) They went from a few people and a couple of transit vans, to a £300 million turnover in six years. They also followed your advice, publicised their site in a multitude of ways, from excellent
PR to a radio jingle. The whole thing worked though, because each aspect pulled together and the website staff were aware of and took into account every off site move.
"Ok, this has to be a joke post. You should hire someone that sits on the phone and tells you which keys to push on your keyboard as you design and
SEO the site yourself."
Largely answered and they shouldn't sit on a phone. Your
SEO consultant is part of your business.
"If they had skills they would be making money with their own site instead of sitting on the phone telling me which keys to push on my key pad and what text to put on my T shirts."
Assuming their own site is offering
SEO, they are making money. The client found and selected them.
"lol, I hope you do not sell that crap to your clients."
Are you always offensive because someone has a different opinion. Not crap anyway, just an alternative view to some in the industry, who put short term income ahead of other interests. The strange thing is, if you accept that
SEO is part of an entire process, you make more money. Clients stay with you for years, happily sign long term contracts.
The view expressed is far from unique and by the way, definitely doesn't depend on the
SEO's website. I can think of one UK consultant, perhaps the most successful of all, who have a very old website and work on a similar basis to the one outlined, yet they charge what must be the highest fees in the UK and still have a long waiting list.
Perhaps this debate started because I failed to get across the point.
SEO is part of business marketing and vica versa. Marketing is the heart of business, not separate from anyone's input; from the way a delivery driver talks to customers, right through to decisions by web designers.