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if someone have time.... have a look at Through my Eyes - photo gallery - pictures in Southeast Asia

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The text is very difficult to read especially the red text. When I increased the font size to read the content text with the browser options it caused the text in the left navigation to be cut off.

When using frames there is a possibility of being penalized by the search engines for duplicate content.

The index/follow should only be used for either the index or the default page but not both. It is recommended that the index <noframes> be designed as a recreation of the default so that the spiders will have all content available for crawling including links.

As for human visitors, if your default page is indexed and found in the results by a browser with javascript disabled they will see your default page only and not be redirected to the framed layout. That means they will only see a short description and then you’ve lost them. By giving them the full version on this page there is a greater chance for them to click on a link that will take them to the framed layout.

Hope that helps!

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Oops, I need to apologize and correct as follows…

As for human visitors, if your default page is indexed and found in the results by a browser with javascript disabled they will see your default page only and not be redirected to the framed layout. This means the links are not there for them to see. By giving them the full version on the index<noframes> page they can click on a link that will take them to the framed layout.

Browsers with no frames enabled will see only a short description and then you’ve lost them.

Sorry for the confusion!

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Thank you for the reply, appreciated.

I know that webmaster ''hate'' frames but personally I feel very ok with them. of course need to know how to use them. Every ''orphan'' page will be redirected by a script I have in all pages.

My rank in search engine has not been compromised till now and I do not think it will be, maybe just luck.


Regretfully I have no idea and time to create a version ''frames free'' of the website for the user that decide to use a browser with frames disabled.

I will check regarding the font size, I understand what you mean.

I just checked....

I can see and read the text correctly with firefox ''fonts'' settled as ''normal' .... of course if increase I have problem...not noted that before.... thank you.

Regarding IE there is not problem at all because IE does not increase a font if the font is defined in the CSS style like mine are.

Firefox must solve this issue, it should not be allowed to increase any fonts defined... otherwise every webmaster get mad.... how can I do to set a layout if anyone is free to modify the fonts?

Hi there....
Thank you for every comment, really appreciated.

I made several modifications.

I know that probably many of you hate frames and I wonder how can i get the same effect without using frames ?

Here is a link for css emulation of frames and there are other examples at that site as well...

stu nicholls | CSS PLaY | CSS frame emulation | the holy grill

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