RedCarpetRank.com:: Want constructive feedback.

kgun · #1 (**permalink**) 07-31-2007, 08:05 AM

Please review my new site: RedCarpetRank.com

Now it is only:

Design.
Colour.
OBL's.

Plan:

Ad driven information site. At least USD 100/month or no prepaid ad. Affiliate links are the second best solution. There are some great providers at CJ and LS. Even if you pay USD 1000/month it is not sure that you get your ad on the site.
After a while, have categories: Best Ad sites, Articles, sites, tools etc. in year 2007, ...
May be give an award: "Best Ad site of the year 2007" ....

Design:

Now it is only the first step, getting the site on the web.
Most important problem:
- Develop the site from this first step or
- develop the site with the ADOBE template like Learn object oriented programming and design where it started, at OopSchool.com with the Red Carpet in the middle.

Jason Tor · #2 (**permalink**) 07-31-2007, 08:44 PM

It's is hard to review this site because it isn't really a "structured" site. I would at least ad a description to the site so your visitors know exactly what you're providing them.

hbonline · #3 (**permalink**) 07-31-2007, 09:31 PM

I agree with Jason....

the site gives no information on what it is about or what it offers, or who it pertains to.

I doubt a visitor is going to investigate into it further than the first page, I know when I opened it after about 2 seconds I closed it, it was not worth diving deeper to me.

and if you think you are going to get approved from CJ, or any other ad provider like Value Click Media your dreaming.

Plus its ugly!

kgun · #4 (**permalink**) 08-01-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hbonline

I agree with Jason....

the site gives no information on what it is about or what it offers, or who it pertains to.

I doubt a visitor is going to investigate into it further than the first page, I know when I opened it after about 2 seconds I closed it, it was not worth diving deeper to me.

and if you think you are going to get approved from CJ, or any other ad provider like Value Click Media your dreaming.

Plus its ugly!

It is difficult to take constructive advice from a person that has a site that is very difficult to scroll, even on a fast connection (or is it the design?). I tried it in IE 7.

If you mean by ugly, the colour, that will not be changed. It may be changed to better red combinations (done in a few seconds if you have the hex colour code). The Ad section of the site will have another colour (background), but only banners of a specific size (and or design) will be used. Proposals are welcome.

But you did not answer the combination of the "red digital carpet" and the the DreamWeaver template. I am not a professional designer and do not want to reinvent the wheel. If someone have a better template than that provided by DreamWeaver, that can be combined with "the red carpet", I will look at it.

Thanks for the comments, though, after such comments I have a tendency to increase the price a little

Daily, I get so many emails from Affiliate providers, that it takes time to delete them. Do you know how CJ operates? The problem is sooner to find the best companies (preferrably providers that fit into the site contextually). That is the biggest problem among thousands of companies. I am accepted by providers like CJ, LS, LC, TradeDoubler ... to mention the most important.

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Originally Posted by Jason Tor

It's is hard to review this site because it isn't really a "structured" site. I would at least ad a description to the site so your visitors know exactly what you're providing them.

Thanks: Constructive.

khurramali · #5 (**permalink**) 08-02-2007, 10:39 AM

here is my 2 cents.

the idea is good, but it needs a lot of work, either make it like a portal (yahoo)

or make is like Google (search engine) one good option now available is that you can personalize google, yahoo etc. to make them your unique verticle search engine. Work towards that, I know you are good at programming so work with RSS FEEDS. and you website will start filling up with relevant data.

have fun.

kgun · #6 (**permalink**) 08-02-2007, 10:56 AM

Thank you very much Ali. I know there is no free lunch. It also depends on keeping my health. Stage 2 in my plan is developing more content and reading, rereading and reading again.

Now I am rereading and waiting for 10 new books from Amazon, most of them related to XML. Collecting ideas and soon start on Web2Logistics.com that will be an XML driven site. My Danish hoster are true professionals. They do everything for the customer. Are fast to upgrade PHP and install the extensions I want. It is good to be Norwegian in Denmark as the saying goes.

What I learn when developing Web2Logistics.com will be used on the other cites. The better you know XML, the easier it will be to develop Web Applications with AJAX, Ruby or whatever. The XML family of technologies are a key to future web development and last, but not least, understanding Web 2.0 SEO that in my personal view requires much more creative thinking and artistic mind than developing for Web 1.0.

Added the following to your RepRank:

Approve ?: Yes.

Remark: Helpful Comment.

That was, believe it or not, my first adding to a WPW member's RepRank.

kgun · #7 (**permalink**) 08-03-2007, 07:11 AM

Thank you so long for comments. I try again to get more comments, especially on colour combinations and design / templates.

Read this poem that I posted in another froum:

"I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth--
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches' broth--
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.

What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small".

Robert Frost

and make the following KW search on YouTube: Ken Nordine Colors
and you find yellow in original version, green and the recently added chroma. I am looking for the best colour combinations from the very beginning, as the top off laziness is to do everything as correct as possible from the beginning. Therfore, I want feeback on the best combinations of

red::
"The color red has a reputation for stimulating adrenaline and blood pressure. Along with those physiological effects, red is also known to increase human metabolism. It is an exciting, dramatic, and rich color; after all, red is also a color of passion. Nothing says "love" like painting a wall bright red on Saint Valentine's Day for your sweetheart as someone's done in Figure 2.1. The darker shades of red, such as burgyndy and maroon, have a rich, indulgent feeling about them-in fact, they can be quite hoitytoity. Think about these colours when designing anything for wine enthusiasts or connoisserus of fine living. The more earthy, brownish shades of red are associated with the fall season and harvest."
Source: Jason Beaird (2007) "The Principles of Beautiful Web Design" page 39.

The name of the site is RedCarpetRank, that means that there shall be a digital red carpet surrounded, preferrably by (lighter coloured? - ad areas). Companies have a lot of colour combinations in their banners, so it shoud be possible to find ad

that contextually and laterally fits to the content and to
the design, layout and red colour of the carpet.

To be more precise:

What is the best with of the carpet? Should it be surrounded by one or two Ad columns (i think I will use CSS for design as already laid out in the skeleton).
Now there are two combinations of read? Is there better solutions? There should be if professional designers look at the ccombination.
Should I use a red image as a backgound or a single red color? I like simple principles. Not, too, many effects like in this thread
Should it be a painted, mostly signal red carpet?

If you are a designer and want to contribute with a template that is Ok. I stay free to accept or decline such a template. I also invite to a competition where the best proposal will be awarded with a link to the designer's page and USD 100 in reward.

The anchor text of the link will be something like: "Company x won the competition for the best design in 2007 for RedCarpetRank.com".

That means that you will only be guaranteed a link for one year, from it is implemented. Then, I am free to choose a new designer based on a new competition, proposal or paid solution.

If I do not find any design proposal good enough, it will not be used, and there will be no reward either in the form of a link or USD 100.

There should be at least 20 that participate in the competition.

Further inspiration: Fractal Animations with music

RobGoodlatte.com Do I need to explain?

ran_dizolph · #8 (**permalink**) 08-03-2007, 03:51 PM

K, I really think I'm missing something here...despite having read all of these posts, and viewed the site a couple of times, I still don't understand what it is that you're doing!

It's a list of links...that's it! No apparent order, or reason for them being there, aside from you considering them to be worthy of the 'red carpet'. Could you at least put a blurb at the top about why they are there?

Stylistically, there really isn't much to review. It's a lot of red. That's about all I've got. Perhaps you could tastefully tile a decent background image of red carpet texture in the back behind the links or something.

Seeking enlightenment.

khurramali · #9 (**permalink**) 08-03-2007, 04:44 PM

Don't get me wrong, maybe you can focus on celebrity websites as the red carpet fits their needs and inspirations.

And guess who has money to burn, just to get their name and website on top.

You guessed it right, Hollywood Celebrities.

kgun · #10 (**permalink**) 08-03-2007, 07:58 PM

I will be short now and wait until / if / when I get more feedback.

I have also ordered OrangeRank.com.
PurpleRank.com
Before a site, especially an ad related site, since there ars so many, it must get a link on AdScoolworld.com.
Then on ad-university.com
Then on the orangecarpet.
Then on the PurpleCarpet
Finally on RedCarpetRank.

The site will be an information, ad driven site where links are ranked by a professional, with the background you find on BlogNorway.com, in the lower left corner. That is far from a complete CV. Excellent or outstanding sites may be linked in on RedCarpetRank.com directly.

Time will show what comes out of it. I could have written like so many do. Don't miss this unique chance to come on RedCarpetRank.com. (Now I wrote it, but so much can happen, so I do not promise anything. I will not promise anybody a garden of orange, purple or red roses). Now I have a clear canditate to enter RedCarpetRank.com directly, namely MySQL Administrator. Guess why and where it will be placed if you take some time to look at the site. Now the links are unordered and badly categorized. That will not continue.

It is not about Hollywood celebrities, but they can come on RedCarpetRank.com if they get outstanding sites. Different criteria defines an outstanding site to me personally. The sites are ranked on subjective, but professional judgement.

Ideally some of the SE's could sponor the project with prices in various categories like the Nobel Prize, but I have no illusion. The major SE's ought to have an interest in such a project. That may imporve their index.

Paul B · #11 (**permalink**) 08-04-2007, 06:17 AM

"Constructive feedback" is difficult. When your fellow web builders have little or no idea what it's about, SEs will be equally confused.

If you have the domain name redcarpetrank.com, any other color won't be red. Clever sites are only clever when the rest of the world can see they are clever too...

kgun · #12 (**permalink**) 08-04-2007, 07:55 AM

Quick reply.

Thank you for comments and suggestions so long.
Do not misunderstand. The content on RedCarpetRank.com is not about design (aside from sites in a category, design). It is about content, great information, great web applications, great (often free) tools etc. A site that do not validate have no problem to get a link on the red carpet if content in one form or another, on the site is great.)
But as explained above, and since I am not a designer, a good start would be to get a competition among designers to make a good design template for the site. The reward is explained above. USD 100 is not much, but you also get a strong link from a Norwegian hoster with foccused anchor text (logo link).

ran_dizolph · #13 (**permalink**) 08-13-2007, 12:59 PM

Okay...now I'm even more confused than when I posted first!

You haven't changed anything to reflect any of the suggestions that have been made. I don't think a single poster here has even understood what you're trying to do with this 'website'! If people on this forum can't figure it out, what makes you think ANYONE else will?

Listen to what Paul B has said! You're going to get listed by the SE's as a link farm, and you'll be penalized as such.

khurramali · #14 (**permalink**) 08-13-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ran_dizolph

You're going to get listed by the SE's as a link farm, and you'll be penalized as such.

I have tried to explain this to Kgun but he does not register it.

moreover you want Google to like your website, Google doesn't need you.

Content is King and link farms are not.

Now here is what you need to do

Make a content rich website geared towards the general audience as a whole and not the search engines.
Keep working on number 1 until people start liking you and linking to you (link love).
when people link to you, plus you have some good content then google will start liking you.
when you have like 5000 plus visitors to your website per month, then ask advertisers and then you can start making some real money.

kgun · #15 (**permalink**) 08-13-2007, 04:26 PM

Don't you think I know?

Yes, Ali. Good advice. Deserves RepRank, but I must spread some around before I can give you more.

Did you note this post about polls that are related to the subject discussed here?

In my view, nothing can compete with professionally ranked links even if a Bot shall ideally be more objective in mathematical terms than a human being.

The day a Bot takes a taste and rank the difference between Coke and Pepsi, I shall pull off my red, black, orange, purple or white hat, even if I do not wear a hat today.

Hopefully there will be more than links on the final version of the site.

Anissa · #16 (**permalink**) 09-13-2007, 11:11 AM

I am totally lost. What is the site about again. I can't tell. I click and click and get no where. I get that it is ad driven but, is that it? I don't get it.

Anissa

ran_dizolph · #17 (**permalink**) 09-13-2007, 11:42 AM

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I am totally lost. What is the site about again. I can't tell.

This is EXACTLY the point that all of the posters here are trying to make!

My question to you kgun is a simple one:

WHO CARES?

You do absolutely NOTHING on your site to explain why those links are even present, and even if you did, these links are present based purely on your opinion. Who are you? Why does your opinion matter? EXPLAIN THIS ON THE SITE!

Why aren't you listening to people? Regardless of what you think of the Bots, they are going to be the ones who limit your Search Engine success because your website looks like just another link farm.

I'm done with offering advice on this one until you make some changes...and NO, adding more links to the site doesn't count!

kgun · #18 (**permalink**) 09-19-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Anissa

I am totally lost. What is the site about again. I can't tell. I click and click and get no where. I get that it is ad driven but, is that it? I don't get it.

Anissa

LOL,

as you see, as of september 19 2007, it is only colour and links withou a single ad.