SEO Workers would appreciate your review

Webnauts · #1 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 09:33 PM

Dear co-members,

I would appreciate if you would provide me with a review, but only for my site on-page (on-site) search engine optimization needs.

The domain is activated on the 5th of October 2006, and site was launched on the 15th the same month, and indexed for the first time by Google on the 19th of the same month too.

I have 519 quality IBLs, and PageRank 5 (according to the last Google Toolbar export).

Yahoo Explorer returns 1,031 Inlinks.

Some pages that do not show PR in the green bar, they have been recently renamed, so PR may only be seen at the next Google Toolbar update.

In long terms my target is to achieve good rankings for the following search terms:

Search term: seo
Activity (Estimated): 3,050 web-wide search engine queries per day.
Google: 1,764
Yahoo Index: 808
MSN: 478

Search term: search engine optimization
Activity (Estimated): 11,737 web-wide search engine queries per day.
Google: 6,788
Yahoo Index: 3,111
MSN: 1,838

Search term: search engine optimization company
Activity (Estimated): 1,693 web-wide search engine queries per day.
Google: 979
Yahoo Index: 449
MSN: 265

I am already improving day by day with less competitive search terms. So please lets stick on the above search terms.

And these are the on-site SEO techniques I implemented:

Read more about here: http://ifacethoughts.net/2007/01/05/...accessibility/

and

Semantic Web features.

More details about techniques implemented may be found in the thread: http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=72807

Any improvement suggestions?

janeth · #2 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 09:45 PM

Where is the link to the site?

Webnauts · #3 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 09:49 PM

In my signature.

janeth · #4 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 09:54 PM

lol

Ok I will do this tomorrow because it is late tonight.

Webnauts · #5 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by janeth

lol

Ok I will do this tomorrow because it is late tonight.

To be honest I cannot wait, but as I get a free SEO review, I guess it is worth to wait.

Thats by the way. And please do not forget to post the site you want me to check. OK?

One hand washes the other, and both of them wash the face. :)

timmathews.com · #6 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 11:10 PM

Webnauts... It is not my face that I need washed...
;)
I will make a review for you m8.
I trust you will do the same for me when I need the service?
Thanks,
Tim

Webnauts · #7 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by timmathews.com

Webnauts... It is not my face that I need washed...
;)

LOL

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Originally Posted by timmathews.com

I will make a review for you m8.
I trust you will do the same for me when I need the service?

I sure will brother. :)

janeth · #8 (**permalink**) 03-06-2007, 01:30 PM

I will start with the title and meta tags. SEO Workers is not a competitive keyword and you should be able to rank for that with your current links and the URL. I would remove them from the title.

If it is search engine optimization you want to rank for then I would place that in the title and remove everything else. Each letter in the title takes away from the strength of the others.

<title>SEO Workers - Search Engine Optimization Consulting Company</title>

I would write the text for my description just for my visitors. I have seen debate after debate about rather or not it helps ranking and if it does it is so little that no one can see it.

<meta name="description" content="SEO Workers are a professional group of Search Engine & Social Media Optimization Consultants with experience, industry knowledge, and innovative ideas." />

I would not use any keywords that were not in my text in my keyword tag. Not that anyone uses it for ranking and I am really not sure why I would not but I would not.

<meta name="keywords" content="seo,professional,search engine optimization,optimize,web site development,analysis tool,articles,tutorials,ethical,business" />

If search engine optimization is the keyword I wanted to rank for I would have used it in the h1, h2 and h3 tag along with some bold text.

I would also use it at the top, bottom and middle of the page. Making it the first word Google sees and the last.

I wonder if the page names would have been better as “search engine optimization tools” rather that just “tools”?

The truth of the matter is that no matter what you do to that site it will never rank for search engine optimization until you get enough links going to it.

Webnauts · #9 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by janeth

I will start with the title and meta tags. SEO Workers is not a competitive keyword and you should be able to rank for that with your current links and the URL. I would remove them from the title.

If it is search engine optimization you want to rank for then I would place that in the title and remove everything else. Each letter in the title takes away from the strength of the others.

<title>SEO Workers - Search Engine Optimization Consulting Company</title>

I reserved the domain seoworkers.com, as I wanted to have one of my major targeted keywords "seo" and "search Engine optimization".

So "seo". Then I needed to setup the name. What came out? "seoworkers".

In the title I have:

SEO Workers - Search Engine Optimization Consulting Company

The blue words/phrases are my major targeted keywords. The green words are attributes for my keywords. The red word is almost irrelevant, but in terms of LSI, can come out something like "seo work". Not a searched term? Then I just let it me. But a funny experience I had, I saw in my Google webmasters tool that someone found my site in Google, and have visited me.

Check it out: http://www.google.com/search?q=worke...ient=firefox-a

I am sure that I am on the first page. I guess position one out of 63,200,000 pages found?

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Originally Posted by janeth

I would write the text for my description just for my visitors. I have seen debate after debate about rather or not it helps ranking and if it does it is so little that no one can see it.

<meta name="description" content="SEO Workers are a professional group of Search Engine & Social Media Optimization Consultants with experience, industry knowledge, and innovative ideas." />

I would not use any keywords that were not in my text in my keyword tag. Not that anyone uses it for ranking and I am really not sure why I would not but I would not.

<meta name="keywords" content="seo,professional,search engine optimization,optimize,web site development,analysis tool,articles,tutorials,ethical,business" />

Do you mean I miss some keywords in my keywords meta tag?

I am sure that my title tag, descriptions and keywords meta tags are 100% relevant to each other and to the content of the page.

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Originally Posted by janeth

If search engine optimization is the keyword I wanted to rank for I would have used it in the h1, h2 and h3 tag along with some bold text.

h1: Expert SEO Consultants for Increased Business Growth
h2: SEO Workers - Search Engine Optimization Consulting
h2: Analysis Tool
h2: Articles & Tutorials
h2: Discussion Forums

The page main content begins with the word SEO and is bolded using the [b] tag and I have once the word SEO within an abbreviation tag, explaining what SEO means.

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Originally Posted by janeth

I would also use it at the top, bottom and middle of the page. Making it the first word Google sees and the last.

The Search Engines to not read pages like you see them.

A Search Engine and a Screen Reader read the code structure and not the page as displayed in your browser.

So the first thing they read is my h1:
Expert SEO Consultants for Increased Business Growth

The last sentence search engines read on my pages is:
Optimizing for Search Engines, with Humans in Mind.

Am I missing the word search engine optimization? I hope you know that I am do not. LSI?

Or did I miss something?

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Originally Posted by janeth

I wonder if the page names would have been better as “search engine optimization tools” rather that just “tools”?

If you are talking about the link in the main navigation, I would never do that. Such links must be kept short. Usability. And I a not good with keywords stuffing.

I took out a while ago the word "seo" out of 3 <h2> tags on every page, as I thought that was too much for my visitors and for search engines. I have not seen any negative effects so far.

And I also have to add here the the link "Tool" in my main navigation has for a link title attribute: "Search Engine Optimization Tools". Not because the title attribute weights for ranking, but for the SE to get the context of the hyperlink.

If you are about the page title where the tool is:

SEO Workers - Search Engine Optimization Analysis Tool

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Originally Posted by janeth

The truth of the matter is that no matter what you do to that site it will never rank for search engine optimization until you get enough links going to it.

If you look to my domain/site age and its PageRank (not ranking) and its back links and their quality, I guess you will realize that I do not need any tips like that. OK?

Thanks for the review by the way. I woe you one too.

janeth · #10 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Webnauts

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Originally Posted by janeth

Why ask for a review if YOU felt the site was perfect?

Did I say the site is perfect? I just asked for some issues I possibly missed or not implemented. :)

I disagree with you on a lot of the on site SEO stuff but do not think it makes a big enough difference to spend time debating it.

Webnauts · #11 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janeth

I disagree with you on a lot of the on site SEO stuff but do not think it makes a big enough difference to spend time debating it.

Can you at least tell where we disagree? Maybe I can learn something new. Don't you think? :)

By the way I updated my first post. I also described there the techniques implemented.

janeth · #12 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Webnauts

Quote:

Originally Posted by janeth

I disagree with you on a lot of the on site SEO stuff but do not think it makes a big enough difference to spend time debating it.

Can you at least tell where we disagree? Maybe I can learn something new. Don't you think? :)

By the way I updated my first post. I also described there the techniques implemented.

An Example would be the title tag:

For me the title is the most important on site SEO tag.

I believe that every character used in the title takes away from the ranking power of the other characters.

For that reason I try to keep mine below 65 characters and do not use any characters for words I do not want to rank for.

Chris · #13 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 03:10 PM

this is chris with a reminder to keep it amicable...

Webnauts · #14 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

this is chris with a reminder to keep it amicable...

You got it boss.

Webnauts · #15 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janeth

An Example would be the title tag:

For me the title is the most important on site SEO tag.

For me too. But not the only one. :)

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Originally Posted by janeth

I believe that every character used in the title takes away from the ranking power of the other characters.

Did you ever hear about weight of position of keywords in title tags?

First and third, second and forth, and so on? I do not see the problem there.

But as I am sure that you will say:

What about the word "workers"?

And I would like to ask:

Where should I place my brand? Corporate identity? Company name?

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Originally Posted by janeth

For that reason I try to keep mine below 65 characters and do not use any characters for words I do not want to rank for.

For which reason? That you keep your title tag below 65 characters? What am I doing? Isn't mine 59 characters including spaces below 65 characters?

Count it yourself please:

SEO Workers - Search Engine Optimization Consulting Company

kgun · #16 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 04:47 PM

John, some remarks in a hurry:

I see that you use external style sheets.
(Sidenote: Have all styling been exported to the stylesheets? What about code like this:
<div id="bread">
<div class="breadbar">
You are here: Isn't that depricated?)

Is it poosible for you to place a version of the site where the style sheets are commented out? Then we will see the page how the Bots see it.

You know that I have written about SERP penetration and what I mean by that. You should also focus on SERP penetration.

If you want another link to your site on one or more of mine, can you please give the link with a good anchor text?

All for now.

Webnauts · #17 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kgun

John, some remarks in a hurry:

I see that you use external style sheets.
(Sidenote: Have all styling been exported to the stylesheets? What about code like this:
<div id="bread">
<div class="breadbar">
You are here: Isn't that depricated?)

Endless of thanks for this great tip Kjell. I missed that one! That should be styled and not [b]. A very bloody mistake. Bad semantics. :)

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Originally Posted by kgun

Is it poosible for you to place a version of the site where the style sheets are commented out? Then we will see the page how the Bots see it.

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They also see the images and their alt and titles attributes. Title attributes for browser compatibility, not for boosting ranking. As you might know Firefox cannot display alt attributes.

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Originally Posted by kgun

You know that I have written about SERP penetration and what I mean by that. You should also focus on SERP penetration.

Can you remind me where you wrote that?

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Originally Posted by kgun

If you want another link to your site on one or more of mine, can you please give the link with a good anchor text?

How about the title tags of the pages you want to link too?

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Originally Posted by kgun

All for now.

Well this was the only helpful post for me so far. No theories, rather facts.

Thanks man.

janeth · #18 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Webnauts

Well this was the only helpful post for me so far. No theories, rather facts.

Thanks man.

lol

Let us play some games.

Webnauts · #19 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 05:33 PM

Our mod Debbie started a thread with the SEO techniques I strictly adhere for creating and/or optimize sites: http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=72807

Very strange stuff for some members here?

Webnauts · #20 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by janeth

lol

Let us play some games.

If you knew that you are promoting me with your posts here and elsewhere, you would not be laughing all the time.

Do you want to play a game? If yes, I have an idea. Let me know, and we can go for it.

kgun · #21 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 05:39 PM

There may also be a problem with imported style sheets in older browsers:

Your code (why not media all? Do you intend to make alternate style sheets?)

<style type="text/css" media="screen">
@import "stylesheets/layout.css";
</style>

You should copy that style sheet and make a separte (different depending on styling) for older browsers that do not support imported style sheets.

Example:

oldLayout.css

and link to it in the usual way, but before the imported..

Reason:
Modern browsers can see both style sheets. However for those browsers, the second imported stylesheet will override any value set in the first. Some old browsers will only see the first.

Webnauts · #22 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 05:54 PM

Thanks Kjell for the tip. But this is not the case, as we are working on a mobile version for our site.
So we must use "screen".

We already have other alternative style sheets, for print and aural (screen readers).

Feydakin · #23 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Webnauts

What about the word "workers"?

And I would like to ask:

Where should I place my brand? Corporate identity? Company name?

I faced the same dilema with the jewelry site.. I simply decided that I wasn't trying to optimize for my name and moved it to the end of the title tag.. It's still there, but not in a dominate position..

Custom Jewelry - by Images Jewelers
I like Pie - by Images Jewelers

etc etc.. Can I say for a fact that it helped, no, not really.. But I do think that having your primary keyword or phrase for each page be the first thing in the title is a good thing..

kgun · #24 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 06:15 PM

Ok, but do all of them support imported style sheets?

You have to differentiate between

Browsers not supporting CSS.
Old browsers supporting only linked and not imported stylesheets.
Modern browsers supporting imported stylesheets.

That was my main point. The second point was media type.

There are very many mobile devices. May be they are so modern that they all support imported style sheets. I do not have that overview.

Webnauts · #25 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kgun

Ok, but do all of them support imported style sheets?

You have to differentiate between

Browsers not supporting CSS.
Old browsers supporting only linked and not imported stylesheets.
Modern browsers supporting imported stylesheets.

That was my main point. The second point was media type.

There are very many mobile devices. May be they are so modern that they all support imported style sheets. I do not have that overview.

Kjell, imported stylesheets are for backward compatibility.

Second we are working on Mobile XHTML version.

Let is be as it is. It is for sure correct. :)

kgun · #26 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Webnauts

Kjell, imported stylesheets are for backward compatibility.

Still unsure. The bolded word indicates what confuses me.

Doesn't that imply that all older browsers that does not support @import see the site without CSS styling?

But there are for media all (may be not for media screen) as far as I know some old browsers that support, linked style sheets. If that is the case, you prefer not to use CSS styling for those, may be marginally few exceptions.

But if you design for Mobile XHTML version, I will say that you design for the future not looking out the back window.

Then the focus should be on making the site forward compatible.

The devil is in the details, and you have written elswhere that you are a perfectionist :-)

Webnauts · #27 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kgun

Doesn't that imply that all older browsers that does not support @import see the site without CSS styling?

Kjell read this please: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ImportHack

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Originally Posted by kgun

But if you design for Mobile XHTML version, I will say that you design for the future not looking out the back window.

Then the focus should be on making the site forward compatible.

Are you kidding me? Why should I not design for backward and future compatibility the same time, since it is very simple?

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Originally Posted by kgun

The devil is in the details, and you have written elswhere that you are a perfectionist :-)

Am I not?

And by the way Kjell, I asked for a site review in terms of on-page search engine optimization. So can we stick on the topic from now on?

Thanks again man.

kgun · #28 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 07:20 PM

We may agree, I was too fast and overlooked the other style sheets.

But you know, I am devils advocat, even if I am the only at WPW or WWW that means that there is at least indirectly (regarding IBL's -- you did not get the link from that important site because your page was not accessible) a relation between accessibility, usability and "offsite SEO", I stand (alone) by it.

Back to main street onsite SEO like SERP penetration that I wrote a few words on in Janeth's thread (page 10, 1 and 9) and Ken's thread (page 7, note 2 posts near the bottom of the page).

Related link:
Nobody talks about getting #1 now?

Webnauts · #29 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kgun

But you know, I am devils advocat, even if I am the only at WPW or WWW that means that there is at least indirectly (regarding IBL's -- you did not get the link from that important site because your page was not accessible) a relation between accessibility, usability and "offsite SEO", I stand (alone) by it.

Sorry, but I do not understand what you mean here Kjell.

kgun · #30 (**permalink**) 03-07-2007, 11:40 PM

John, by your, I do not mean your, but a general site / page on the internet.

ctabuk · #31 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 04:51 AM

John, how many OBL's do you intend to use? I ran it through IBL and the only thing it really picked up on was the lack of OBL's.
I think the main problem is always going to be that the SE's relate to forum posts on this huge subject as opposed to private Companies offering their services.
At the end of the day it's all about links, you cannot risk a massive influx, so it's softly softly catchee monkey.

Webnauts · #32 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ctabuk

John, how many OBL's do you intend to use?

I already have OBLs.

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Originally Posted by ctabuk

I ran it through IBL and the only thing it really picked up on was the lack of OBL's.

A lack of OBLs? Can you be more specific?

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Originally Posted by ctabuk

I think the main problem is always going to be that the SE's relate to forum posts on this huge subject as opposed to private Companies offering their services.

Sorry I don't understand what you mean here.

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Originally Posted by ctabuk

At the end of the day it's all about links, you cannot risk a massive influx, so it's softly softly catchee monkey.

I do build my links softly softly catchee monkey. What do you see for a problem? Or it is just a general tip?

ctabuk · #33 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 08:14 AM

Ok - Do the OBL's point at your keywords?

This can be done via repeat submissions from different page titles.
Can I be specific? No I can access your site to see OBLs

You will need circa 2500 OBL's over say a six month period to assist in SERP.

Most of the natural results point to forum posts. This is hardly likely to get you on page one without the links.

Yes - just general advice.

dharrison · #34 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 08:48 AM

Hi John

Apologies for the delay in reviewing. Overall the site is good and clean and it is very plain to see what the site is about.

Other than the colours (which I think we've debated before) my only other suggestion would be your call to action:

Quote:

Please feel free to contact us for a quote for an SEO web site analysis or for a proposal describing available options for improving your site's performance and profitability, so you can see exactly what steps we will take to optimize your web site.

Theres nothing wrong with wording it like that, but it is right at the bottom of the page. Not everyone reads content from beginning to end word for word and it might just be worth your while to include this call to action on the RHS (above the forum and article boxes), keeping it above the fold where everyone will see it. perhaps even use an image so the visitors eye is drawn to it naturally.

Thanks for the link to my article. I am glad a pro like you agrees with what was said.

HTH

Webnauts · #35 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ctabuk

Ok - Do the OBL's point at your keywords?

This can be done via repeat submissions from different page titles.
Can I be specific? No I can access your site to see OBLs

You will need circa 2500 OBL's over say a six month period to assist in SERP.

Most of the natural results point to forum posts. This is hardly likely to get you on page one without the links.

Yes - just general advice.

I do not understand at all what you are talking about David. Do you mean I need circa 2500 Outbound links over say 6 months?

Then my site will turn out to a huge web directory. I don't get you man. :)

ctabuk · #36 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 09:29 AM

I'm not getting into cloaking here - but if you visit www.counciltenantsmortgages.co.uk
See if you can find it's OBL's - It has hundreds and hundreds.

Webnauts · #37 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ctabuk

I'm not getting into cloaking here - but if you visit www.counciltenantsmortgages.co.uk
See if you can find it's OBL's - It has hundreds and hundreds.

David are you sure about what you are talking about?
Are you probably talking about back links (IBLs)?

If not, on which page are those OBLs. And if they are OBLs, are those 100 safe from bad neighborhoods?

ctabuk · #38 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 10:39 AM

You see John, we have 100's and 100's of quality OBL's - fully in sight of the SE's and Viewers but our navigation is probably the most sophisticated that you will ever see. So Yes - I do know what I'm talking about.
You need nearly as many OBL's as you do IBL's

Webnauts · #39 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 10:46 AM

David I think you missed something. Did you check my OBLs site-wide? 64.26% of my site urls are external.

Webnauts · #40 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 11:21 AM

The pages are not long!

If you think pages are too long to read, I provide an appropriate alternative, which is a print version. Did you try to print a page? Check a print review, and tell me if something can be better than that.

About a portfolio, you are right. I am planning to add on our site soon.

Thanks man.

kgun · #41 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 12:17 PM

Very interesting discussion on IBL's / OBL's.

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Originally Posted by ctabuk

You see John, we have 100's and 100's of quality OBL's - fully in sight of the SE's and Viewers but our navigation is probably the most sophisticated that you will ever see. So Yes - I do know what I'm talking about.
You need nearly as many OBL's as you do IBL's

Isn't that navigation very simple with good styling?

See second link in my signature. View it with and without styling.

My own personal view. Don't worry too much on Code / KW ratio, OBL's / IBL's ratio or other ratios.

Write / link for human beings (and Ad) in a natural way.

"Make it simple, as simple as possible but no simpler."

Webnauts · #42 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 12:30 PM

Great post Kjell. Thanks.

AjiNIMC · #43 (**permalink**) 03-08-2007, 12:49 PM

Sorry for the delay, hope I am not too late with the reviews (and my points are not redundant with others, sorry haven't gone through all the replies).

Here is some quick suggestions
(I haven't done a lot of study on these keyphrases) The keywords are going to be very competitive (for sure), so lets forget about onpage factors. As you can't stretch the onpage factors beyond a certain level. I will generally keep my code clean and write content for the targeted visitors, will not worry about H1, bolds e.t.c. and build on offpage factors by writing really good articles and getting more and more links.

Some Factors to look for

The images like /images/p3p.png are 9 kb, so 9kb x4=36kb, it is a huge size. I will advice to keep a lighter image.
There are a lot of blank spaces between the code, try reducing it.
http://www.seoworkers.com/index.html...eets/print.css (avoid stylesheets twice, every byte is precious)
Load the css that are important.

The page will be take over 16 secs under 56kbps, which is a little above standards, I will try to keep it as per standards 8 sec (+2). As a SEO company I will always check the speed of the site.
Also put some latest forum articles or some other latest things on the site, which will attract users to come and see the latest sections.

These are my suggestions. I am sure every time someone look deeper will be a able to come up with more suggestions :), I just did a surface level check with my the basic tools.

Best of luck,
Aji Issac

Webnauts · #44 (**permalink**) 03-16-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AjiNIMC

Sorry for the delay, hope I am not too late with the reviews (and my points are not redundant with others, sorry haven't gone through all the replies).

No problem.

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Originally Posted by AjiNIMC

As you can't stretch the onpage factors beyond a certain level. I will generally keep my code clean and write content for the targeted visitors, will not worry about H1, bolds e.t.c. and build on offpage factors by writing really good articles and getting more and more links.

Are you really talking about my site?

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Originally Posted by AjiNIMC

[*] The images like /images/p3p.png are 9 kb, so 9kb x4=36kb, it is a huge size. I will advice to keep a lighter image.

Is this a joke? The image is 0,93 kb, not 9kb. Can you make that smaller?

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Originally Posted by AjiNIMC

[*] There are a lot of blank spaces between the code, try reducing it.

Sorry, but I want that I can read my code, as others willing to view it too.

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Originally Posted by AjiNIMC

[*] http://www.seoworkers.com/index.html...eets/print.css (avoid stylesheets twice, every byte is precious)[*] Load the css that are important.

Where did you get that from? I don't get that.

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Originally Posted by AjiNIMC

The page will be take over 16 secs under 56kbps, which is a little above standards, I will try to keep it as per standards 8 sec (+2). As a SEO company I will always check the speed of the site.

I agree with that. I will see what I can do.

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Originally Posted by AjiNIMC

[*] Also put some latest forum articles or some other latest things on the site, which will attract users to come and see the latest sections.

Those are not latest sections. But anyway.

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Originally Posted by AjiNIMC

These are my suggestions. I am sure every time someone look deeper will be a able to come up with more suggestions :), I just did a surface level check with my the basic tools.

Thanks Aji. But please check again.

AjiNIMC · #45 (**permalink**) 03-17-2007, 01:29 AM

I do not know whether I should be reply back to this thread or not as we take a different direction after few posts :), may be problem in horoscopes, I am virgo :).

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Are you really talking about my site?

I just saw one post taking about H1,H2 (may be with Janeth), so I added this as intro. As I said I was in hurry, so am I again.

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Is this a joke? The image is 0,93 kb, not 9kb. Can you make that smaller?

I will not call a .93 kb image 9.3 kb, will I, you should have asked me how I ended up there. Look at this http://www.seoworkers.com/index.html/images/css.png, which returns a 200 ok header, my tools somehow loaded these images while accessing your pages.

Request

Code:

GET /index.html/ HTTP/1.1
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, application/x-shockwave-flash, */*
Accept-Language: en-us
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)
Host: www.seoworkers.com
Connection: Keep-Alive

Response

Code:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:21:16 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.50 (Linux/SUSE)
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.2.1
Expires: Sun, 19 Aug 1962 08:00:00 GMT
Last-Modified: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:37:19 GMT
Cache-Control: public, must-revalidate
Pragma: no-cache
P3P: CP="IDC DSP COR CURa ADMa OUR IND PHY ONL COM STA", policyref="/w3c/p3p.xml"
pics-label: (pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/pics/vocabularyv03/" l gen true for "http://seoworkers.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 oa 0 ob 0 oc 0 od 0 oe 0 of 0 og 0 oh 0 c 3)  gen true for "http://www.seoworkers.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 oa 0 ob 0 oc 0 od 0 oe 0 of 0 og 0 oh 0 c 3))
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Language: en

May be you will have to give it a check, canonicalization is need as well.

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Sorry, but I want that I can read my code, as others willing to view it too.

Was my opinion, I will always prefer to save all possible bytes.

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Where did you get that from? I don't get that.

Looks like some redirection happening for some of the tools. I wish I had more time to debug this.

:), you have a nice site, wishing you all luck. My last tip, make it gzip, it will speed it up. Around 59% compression is possible. There are more test you can do, like http_pipelining e.tc to speed it up. For me, SEO mean Seach engine visitors Experience Optimization, speed the key.

Have a nice day.
Aji

Webnauts · #46 (**permalink**) 03-17-2007, 02:53 PM

Aji gzip is planned already, but my Admin had no time yet to implement.

Thanks for checking again buddy.

Webnauts · #47 (**permalink**) 03-17-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ctabuk

OBL's are there - but what you are trying to do is what I call technical SEO -you say -think Searcher - If I was a business looking for SEO assistance -most of this stuff would go over my head - all I would want to see is
1 - Actual results for your client - there's your OBL's - Demonstration of Clients sites.
2 - Where you got them listed - more OBL's
You get too technical - think Searcher

Those URLs are not real, and are not my clients. They where just examples. :)

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