Let's try not to curse in our sigs please.

Xen2 · #1 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 06:21 PM

Hi. I have not been a member long. I enjoy the discussions and receiving the ientry emails. I thought that this would be a good forum to get help and find solutions to some problems. But what I didn't expect was the level of conservatism.

In my signature I placed two of my sites. One has a word, intentionally spelt wrong, that has been determined as a curse! The alleged curse is part of my domain name. So, my signature has been removed and the tag: Let's try not to curse in our sigs please. Are the administrators of this forum that out of touch with reality?? Give me a break!! If this is the type of "Thought Police" that exist here, then I will go elsewhere, where things are not so anal.(Ooops,I might get banned for using that word, too!)

weslinda · #2 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 10:00 PM

Why is your page HTTPS? That's just odd.

davebarnes · #3 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 10:45 PM

I wondered when Robin Williams was going to make you take his photo off your website.

Not sure how Fukitol is a curse word.
Me, I thought it was some strange Japanese Japlish word.

,dave

P.S. I don't get out much. The white jacket is very constraining.

Tubby · #4 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 02:13 AM

Well, That is the way the cookie crumbles. WPW is not an Australian forum. . this gives you mostly good - some bad. It is one of those things you gotta live with. If you attempt to sail close to the line, you should expect that for some people the line is not in a fixed position. I do not think it is a case of 'in touch with reality' - I think it is probably more a concern about 'Good Taste'
Good Taste, Is not after all a bad target to aim for, I find myself accepting it, with just the occasional breach that gets pulled up. Your signature is highly visible. As we would say Down under "your signature is a bit of a bugger as far as WPW is concerned " Aussies usually just laugh this off. What's your real gripe? . .

I can remember stopping at 'kippa ring' (Just north of Brisbane for USA readers) I always thought a 'kippa' was a smoked fish, I remember having them for breakfast. The thought of a kippa having a 'ring' was highly amusing. I often wondered what the origins of the name Kippa Ring was. I do get down to Redcliffe every couple of years.

Xen2 · #5 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tubby

Well, That is the way the cookie crumbles. WPW is not an Australian forum. . this gives you mostly good - some bad. It is one of those things you gotta live with. If you attempt to sail close to the line, you should expect that for some people the line is not in a fixed position. I do not think it is a case of 'in touch with reality' - I think it is probably more a concern about 'Good Taste'
Good Taste, Is not after all a bad target to aim for, I find myself accepting it, with just the occasional breach that gets pulled up. Your signature is highly visible. As we would say Down under "your signature is a bit of a bugger as far as WPW is concerned " Aussies usually just laugh this off. What's your real gripe? . .

I can remember stopping at 'kippa ring' (Just north of Brisbane for USA readers) I always thought a 'kippa' was a smoked fish, I remember having them for breakfast. The thought of a kippa having a 'ring' was highly amusing. I often wondered what the origins of the name Kippa Ring was. I do get down to Redcliffe every couple of years.

Thanx Tubby for your opinion. What's my gripe? Well, I just get sick of those faceless bureaucrats who are forever trying to control me. Yes, I am an Aussie, and a bit rough around the edges. I make no apologies for the way I am, you either accept me or "bugger" off! It would of been nice for someone to bring this to my attention first and give me the chance to fix it. But I don't think it is a curse or in bad taste, the yanks are just soooo conservative and have no taste or a sense of humor. The site is designed to give people a laugh, not to extract the morals brigade opinion.

Kajabbi sounds like a character out of a Star Wars movie.;)

Thanx

Xen

Xen2 · #6 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by weslinda

Why is your page HTTPS? That's just odd.

The https is a SSL site for people who want to register and login to my site securely, plus I am adding a shopping cart. Nothing odd about that.

Thanx
Xen

Tubby · #7 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 07:32 AM

Xen2 said
'I just get sick of those faceless bureaucrats who are forever trying to control me. '

Yes. . I know the feeling. But WPW is not a bureaucracy, it is a commercial operation, most of the moderators (one of, who probably did not like your url) are volunteers, that do it for fun or as a promotional tool.

"But I don't think it is a curse or in bad taste, the yanks are just soooo conservative and have no taste or a sense of humor."

Well, I would have said the 'Yanks' (not a universally prefered term) have a different sense of humour . . Americans I find need to be talked to as individuals. talking to a group is problematic, because it has the opposite effect of talking to a Group of Australians. if you addressed 100 Americans there will be there will be many diverse groups - Sometimes I think the only common value Americans have is protecting each others values. If you offend just a few you are up the creek.
In Australia If you are unable to offend at least 20% then what you said was pointless because everyone already knows it.
I always try make a point of directing my conversation to a particular person (as I am doing now) This I find solves many little problems with the differences between us and them.

Example- USA -If one moderator thinks your site is in bad taste, the others will probably accept it. (yea, bad taste)
Australia - If one moderator thinks your site is in bad taste - someone will shout "Wanker" at the modrator and the others will accept It. We prefer to follow the little man shouting because we identify better with him. (and Wanker is a good chant)

That might not be a totally well thought ot analogie, but as I write this post it seems to work. (seemed like a good one at the time, sort of)

"The site is designed to give people a laugh, not to extract the morals brigade opinion."

Yes. . I can see that, you might need to look at what Americans laugh at. . There are lots of them and getting U.S. traffic is a dream, they click on adverts, they post messages, webmasters heaven.
Individually they are not conservative. . I would suggest a third of Californians are stark staring mad. . (that is by Queensland standards)

Xen2, We need to educate these Americans, I just cannot do it on my own. . The problem is some of them have minds of their own, and just will not learn.

O.K. lets see if they come get me. ( Actually I love em as 'individuals')

This is the bit where I say to a new 'mate'. 'pull your head in' Someone will bite it off.

Kajabbi, I am in the process of moving into the Hotel at Kajabbi, very small place north West of Cloncurry. Basically an outback pub, cattle country and mining. But has a good satellite connection, and no bitumen. Nice country, on the Leichhardt river.

Xen2 · #8 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 07:42 AM

Tubby said
Yes. . I know the feeling. But WPW is not a bureaucracy, it is a commercial operation, most of the moderators (one of, who probably did not like your url) are volunteers, that do it for fun or as a promotional tool.

That makes it even worse!!

I would talk directly to someone on an individual basis, but the exclusion was done without any reference to a person!

I worked my tail off back in the 70's for Mt Isa Mines, which is close to where you are, well, as the crow flies!

Tubby · #9 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 07:58 AM

You posted before I finished ammending my post.

I think I recall my pay number for MIM as 15669, I spend some time as a rise miner, Alimak, Rockbolting.
Mainly 19 level. How do you Do?

quote,
'I would talk directly to someone on an individual basis, but the exclusion was done without any reference to a person! '

Nobody is likely to talk to you. . The opposite would only happen. . Someone would vehemently defend their decision.
Take another tack. . . or forget it and move on. Lets face it you are not going to walk into a well established forum and acheive any good for yourself or members. . by telling them how it should be done. . that is stupid . . Mate, Someone clearly thinks that the name is offensive. It is their decision. . end of story.

Xen2 · #10 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 08:09 AM

I have moved on....with caution!

I am trying to validate some of my sites!!! I would rather have a root canal!!!!!! It is soooo frustrating! Google analytics doesn't validate!

Nice to meet you Tubby.

Xen

Tubby · #11 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 08:32 AM

Validate? . . Oh yes we have plenty here to help you on Validation. .

I personally have probable the poorest validated site on the net.

Post a question on getting your site validated Mate. . you will see the better side of WPW. .

Although someone might well ask you some silly UnAustralian questions about the purpose of your site.

We have some great SEO experts here, (some of them fight like cats and dogs amongst themselves). . But if you are interested in the end result. . take them seriously

weslinda · #12 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 10:44 AM

So the whole domain is SSL? When I went to the site in your signature, every link from the home page was an SSL link, and they are not setup correctly, so I would look into that, and try and fix that as it's a very poor experience for any visitor.

Webnauts · #13 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 10:49 PM

OK everybody.

If I got Xen right, he is asking for a site review. So lets stick on that.

Xen, I need to know something, before I go on.

Do you use the Google Site Maps service?
Or are you aware anyway about canonicalization issues? If not, you have a very serious duplicated content issue on your "Official" page.

You have:

http://(without www.)
http://www.
https://(without www.)
http://www.

Xen2 · #14 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Webnauts

OK everybody.

If I got Xen right, he is asking for a site review. So lets stick on that.

Xen, I need to know something, before I go on.

Do you use the Google Site Maps service?
Or are you aware anyway about canonicalization issues? If not, you have a very serious duplicated content issue on your "Official" page.

You have:

http://(without www.)
http://www.
https://(without www.)
http://www.

I use an automated Google sitemap plugin. I cannot even spell canonicalization, let alone being aware of it. How do I get rid of the duplicate content?

Webnauts · #15 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 11:10 PM

First as mentioned above, using the https for your entry page is not a very good idea.

You should use SSL for shopping carts, or for members areas if you want.

If you have a better reason than those, let me know.

Then I can tell which steps may be taken next.

The canonicalization problem can be easily fixed.

Xen2 · #16 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 11:16 PM

I use the SSL for member registration and login, plus I am in the process of implementing a shopping cart.

This is the first time I have used a SSL and by the looks of it, I have botched that up. However, I can change it, but I need to know how to set it right.

Webnauts · #17 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Xen2

I use the SSL for member registration and login, plus I am in the process of implementing a shopping cart.

This is the first time I have used a SSL and by the looks of it, I have botched that up. However, I can change it, but I need to know how to set it right.

OK Xen. Lets make things easy. You might would consider using a sub-domain for the https.

If that is too complicated, let it be, try to target your homepage to be indexed by SE with http instead of https.

The first step now would be to change your sig from https to http, and everywhere else you did already if possible.

Then to fix the http://(without www) to redirect to http://www add in your .htaccess file for example this:

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^fu....\.com
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.fu....com/$1 [R=permanent,L]

To check if that worked, type in your browser your url without www, and should appear in you browser your url with www.

About how to fix the https issue, read our tutorial Search Engine Indexing of Secure Pages

Xen2 · #18 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 11:59 PM

I am really hopeless at doing this .htaccess thing. This is a copy of my .htaccess log. Where do I add your suggestion??

# BEGIN WordPress
<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /index.php [L]
</IfModule>

# END WordPress

Sorry for being an idiot when it comes to these things!