New Site. Please review for content and SEO effectiveness.

http://www.detect-hidden-text.com

Thank you,

Alex

I read your content. it is interesting. I have heard of this before, however it seems a rather small topic to dedicate a site to.

You have no ranking on Alexa, and no description meta tag. Both these would make your more SEO savvy.

I find it hard to comprehend that you are offering such a service yet your site is written in FrontPage.

The site looks great and is user friendly.

Good luck with it.

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Alex

I think the grammar could be tightened (eg: competitors' rather than competitor's) and the copy could be crisper. There appears, to my human eye, to be a degree of key-word stuffing but even if this was not your intention, some parts are a little repetitive; for example:

We provide a free service to automatically detect all kinds of hidden text, no matter what tricks were used to introduce it. We encourage you to try our service to look for hidden text on your and competitor's sites.

You also have to wade through a lot of text before you get to the offering. Look at the first page as an example: lots of interesting text and then, right at the very bottom: "Or you can try our service". (Actually, it wasn't clear to me from the copy, whether you are offering this service or whether you are aiming to offer it. The wording, "Our goal is to come up with a service..." confused me).

On a pedantic point, I'd lose the smiley on your service page and write in English English (ha, ha - just joking on the last point).

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I think the relatively lengthy sign-up which includes the heading:

Quote:

The information on this form will be reviewed by a human. Once your account is approved you will be notified by email.

for service that we have to take your word for is a non-starter...

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NewZeal, Tamaloo, Paul B,

These are very valuable comments. I'll be sure edit pages according to them.

Thanks!

Alex

Hi Alex

Just a few things I thought about when I checked out your site:

I guess most webmasters know about these tricks and how to detect them. However said that, your site might bring it to the attention of newbies, and that must be a good thing.

You state that hidden text is illegal: I think that is stretching it a bit: what law are they breaking? It might not be fair or honest etc, but it is not illegal (or the jails of the world would be full real soon :-))

I love the clean and clear layout etc.

Also, there is nothing wrong with FrontPage, it just depends how you use it. Maybe get somebody to look over your code (view the HTML tab in FrontPage) and simplify it, use an external CSS sheet. FrontPage supports all these things, you just have to know how to do it...

(Delete the lines "<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0"> <meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">" from your code and your standing on WebProWorld will skyrocket ;-))

Good luck!!

I would make the signup easier....in fact all you want in the beginning is their email address or ? the other information is less important first. This questions you can ask later.
If I have to many questions to answer, I go away...I am confident you get more signups only asking for the email address.

Check your site for typo´s as a non english I am not good at it but i know definitely is spelled like that and not definately :-)

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Perhaps NewZeal but more likely you've heard about http://tool.motoricerca.info/spam-detector/ for which you don't need to register and which is far less verbose, doesn't take up to 5 minutes and validates.

Alex, I read on your Company page that this is an experiment and you might offer this service commercially, if so, why would anyone pay for it when they can already get it free and even if someone thought it important enough to pay for, what would they do with the findings?

Hidden text isn't necessarily a bad thing, there are many innocent manifestations of it. For instance on your own Account Request Form you have hidden text: 'Name' must not be left blank, 'Email' must not be left blank, Password fields do not match. I have made sites using 'show hide layers' where hundreds of 'key phrase laden' words are hidden until a link has been clicked, should I be penalised if those URLs were 'discovered' by your system?

If you ever decide to go commercial I suggest you clean up your design and code and reduce the text to an absolute minimum. As a guide to beginners it might be informative but to those who know about this stuff, those that might pay for it, it's a little bit patronising and amateurish. See how it looks in Opera and Firefox, not quite the same as in the lovely IE!

What ever you decide, good luck.

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Tim,
We're letting people use quite a bit of CPU resources that we pay for. In exchange we only ask to pick a few questions from a few dropdowns which are already prepopulated with defaults. Sounds like a fair deal to me.

We are quite aware of http://tool.motoricerca.info/spam-detector/

The software has been out there for quite some time. Even though it's blazing fast, the way it's designed only barely scratches the surface on all the tricks that modern browser support. It's current limitations

http://tool.motoricerca.info/spam-de...spam-faq.phtml


and the fact the most of black hat SEO sites out there use a combination of layers/javascripts/background images make the tool give you a false sense of comfort.

The motoricerca tool does not scan background images. Our tool does.

Our software makes a clear distinction between DOM-tricks and all other kinds of tricks (non-dom). Of course not all DOM methods to hide text are malicious. The report lets people see what the invisible looks like.

If we decide to pursue the service it will most likely be ad-sponsored (free).

Alex

Alex I just registered. Lets see what you tool does buddy. :)

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Just for interest, as search engines are unable to 'see' images whether backgrounds or not, what is your tool capable of reading of any value from background images?

I'm intrigued.

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Tim what do you mean saying that search engines cannot see images. That they can't be indexed? Or that they cannot read the alt tags?

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Tim,

The tool can scan text off images provided that image text is OCR quality. This, however is not the point. If the text is hidden behind layers of HTML fragments, background images, disabled DOM elements, it will not get scanned by OCR and will get reported as hidden.

Alex

Thanks Alex, I understand now. It's not so much the images themselves, rather what they might disguise. Very clever.

Webnauts, I put 'see' in inverted commas to emphasise their present inability to read the pixel content. I thought for a moment that perhaps it was possible to actually embed readable text within vectors for instance.

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