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06-22-2006, 02:06 PM
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Water Fuel LLC
My company website is
www.waterfuelconverters.com
Thank your for your advice.
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06-22-2006, 04:04 PM
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Slow loading. Not sure what is happening at the top of the page: green bars don't seem to have much aesthetic purpose. There's no hover on the menu.
The site is a brilliant idea, but it took me a while to click. Water Fuel is hydrogen based fuel. This is still way out technology as far as the average person is concerned and you've presented it like plumbing. I think the blue flame is great but it doesn't go with the pictures of vehicles in my opinion. The topic needs more imagination or at least more ingenuity in placement of design features. The Hyzor Automotive picture doesn't fill the frame while its twin on the left does. The fonts are all a little disjointed in relation to each other. Just small things.
The site works well enough, but I think you have far more javascript than you need. Your menu could be pure CSS which is loads faster and you need lots of work on redesign.
Good luck
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06-22-2006, 04:57 PM
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Slow, slow, slow!!!
You have to make your site much faster and lock it down. While loading there is lots of movement. But definitely need to improve speed. And consistency in design wouldn't hurt either.
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06-22-2006, 05:27 PM
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Looking at your code, you have 99 lines before you get to the body tag. Search engines will go to sleep before they reach your copy.
There is css and java all through the page. The javascript for IE layouts should be off page. You have two pieces of CSS in the header alone. Should be in a style sheet (apart from anything else, easier to amend one page
The home page has 80 mark up errors (doesn't have a doctype).
As for design, this is exciting new concept but looks like boring old boiler supplier.
A great deal of work required here to get up to scratch.
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06-23-2006, 09:53 AM
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i personally do not feel the style of this site reflects the content. you're presenting a new-age, modern fuel alternative with a site straight out of '94.
there are loads of junk code in your markup.
this site, to me, is a prime example of why there are people make websites for a living. you will quickly discover the limitations of your site.
take some time to surf around, check some more up-to-date styles, and head back to the drawing board.
best of luck.
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06-23-2006, 06:44 PM
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Slight changes from yesterday but everything about build is still the same and requires considerable work
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06-24-2006, 01:44 AM
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Any ideas? Mabe change the color scheme? Mabe change the box size, text location? I'm not quite sure where to begin.
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06-24-2006, 09:29 AM
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The site does not communicate well -- start with copy. Make the reader work less with an article supplemented with diagrams. In other words dump the very nearly pointless pictures of cars and the pointless flame/globe animation. The site is new, but these out-of-date techniques make it look like the site is a decade-old.
Rather than making the site look authorative and professional, the layout makes the site look suspiciously crackpot. I sat through the download of the HyZor animation and expected an authorative, detailed explanation. I was disappointed by an animation which makes TV commercials seem like the encyclopedia Britannica by comparison.
Check out the Hypercar Project. Check out the jewelboxing site and the lengths they go to properly explain and and showcase their value proposition ...and it's just for a CD Case. Your site will have to fall somewhere between these two examples to get a proper hearing from a skeptical web audience.
Instead of a paragraph on a page, merge several pages to make one complete thought. Tone down the decoration and try for white paper credibility. An infomercial would be a big step up from the information content I found. Unless you want the reader to equate your high-quality product with those 'gas tank magnets' I'd scrap the entire design, post haste.
You do not want a potential business partner or VC to see this site.
Get a CSS based template and hire a copywriter. Figure out what you want a visitor to do, then communicate it.
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06-24-2006, 01:16 PM
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Changes by this evening
I will change the entire format by this evening. It will be a more standard format with the links on the left. Everything will be locked down and there will be no movement during loading.
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06-24-2006, 07:30 PM
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New structure
I've changed the structure of the website. I still have a couple of pages to reformat. I'm not satisfied, it still has an awkward and flimsy look. I'm not quite sure where to go from here, any suggestions.
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06-25-2006, 02:44 AM
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New Ideas
I've been thinking about changing to an opensource CMS or a portal sytem. Any good suggestions?
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06-26-2006, 09:46 AM
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K...honestly, you've moved a few of the images/animations around, but it's still the same site.
you need to review some of the links provided, and also check out this tutorial site...there are lots of complete site building tutorials that should help you on your way.
Before you start worrying about a CMS, you should worry about how the content is going to be presented.
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06-26-2006, 09:22 PM
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Revamped
Check the new site, I merged most of the content. It's much cleaner.
www.waterfuelconverters.com/portal
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06-27-2006, 09:02 AM
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This is much better in terms of layout and background code looks more professiona. There are still markup errors but these are easily fixed. See:
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...om%2Fportal%2F and make the necessary changes.
The menu looks a bit odd mind you with a double tier. It is not really possible to have 11 menu items horizontally.
I would have make a new heading of "technology" or some such and have HHO/BG, EFIE,1200 and Hyzor and videos as sub headings (menus). FAQ could go under Home.
That would leave you with Contact Us Purchase and Maybe Showcar as main menu items.
Get a new photograph of the 1200 series please. One with a random leg in it is not professional.
This is way better than what went before. Just needs sexed up now to make interesting. All looks a bit po faced and worthy at the moment.
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06-27-2006, 09:05 AM
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Re: Revamped
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Originally Posted by nseidm1
Check the new site, I merged most of the content. It's much cleaner.
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PS Link to old site? wrong URL and why have it there at all?
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06-27-2006, 09:17 AM
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well, it LOOKS better...but what's up with this;
Code:
<span class="text"><span style="font-size: 10px; line-height: 17px"><span class="text"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px"><span class="text"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px">[img]images/Products/hyzor-78x105-132x105.jpg[/img]</span></span></span></span></span></span>
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All that is there just to display an imagelink. You could really lean the code out.
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06-27-2006, 09:36 AM
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In fairness, this is a feature of Joomla (the CMS) rather than our intrepid web master
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06-27-2006, 10:38 AM
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ahh...i see. my bad....err, rather, joomlas' bad.
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06-27-2006, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by ran_dizolph
err, rather, joomlas' bad.
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Really
Why say you?
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06-27-2006, 12:50 PM
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Why keep the origional site
I keep the origional site because there are many many links indexed in google and other search engines.
My advertising links to the new site.
I agree, there are some tweaks to iron out. I'll get workin on them soon.
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06-27-2006, 12:58 PM
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because it shows that joomla creates mass quantities of garbage code to present a minute quantity of content.
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07-02-2006, 10:00 PM
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New Jump page
I made this new "jump page", which is set to the index of the domain. The html code is clean so it should be indexed well by search engines.
www.waterfuelconverters.com
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07-28-2006, 01:44 PM
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New Updates
I have cleaned up the text and format of the homepage. How well does it convey information? does it clarify common questions well?[/i]
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07-28-2006, 03:19 PM
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Looks much better...cleaner, and much more up-to-date.
However, what's with the whitespace in the code?? I mean, there's clean, organized code, but you've really taken that to a whole new level. It doesn't need twenty lines between each tag. It'll make it easier on you if you put it a little closer together.
I also believe ur statcounter code should be in the body of the site, not in the header.
[edit]i really dig the logo...i'd recommend you convert it to a decent gif image, you'll lose the artifacting of the jpg compression. furthermore, you may want to lose the pics of the dudes at the top..maybe put another image of the machinery or something.[/edit]
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08-25-2006, 06:08 PM
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Stuck, not quite sure how to make it better
Thanks everyone for your tips. The site has progress significantly since I first started coming to this page. In spite of my upgrading success I have come to a halt not quite sure how to make my site better.
Any Suggestions...
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