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Hello to all;

YourWeb.Info will once again ask for help with a review of the site. We have come along way from what the orginal site looked like. Any information that you can give me is welcome weather it is good or bad. I welcome all info.

We basically have 2 different formats. The main page is a 3 column format and the rest of the site is a 2 column format.

How would one's site get the whole site index from all of the robots on the net? Reason I ask this is that google index's only about 80 pages of the site when we have 3-4 times more pages. I do realize that not all robots will index the site. But the main robots, google, yahoo, and msn should at the very least index 3/4ths of the site. I have not figured out what I am doing wrong with this.

How does one put in a private area in a site? For members only and what code will stop the robots from idexing it?

Mailing list/newsletter format. Anybody care to give me a file on this that is already set up? I have tired to post one on the site but it goes no place. Don't know what I did wrong.

Bottom line here is, if anybody has tips, tricks or infor on what can be or should not be done to the site.

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I'm not trying to be mean but...

My initial thought when I got to your page was 'eww' look at those colors. I almost didn't want to review it because of the green/blue and that bright yellow.

also the picture on the lower left doesn't work

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Isn't this just mass of affiliate links in rather unpleasant colors?
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The wireworks graphic works. I think cox was having problems that day. The lady that runs that site says she gets her work off of my site. I do know the day you looked at the site cox was having problems in our area.

The main color of the site is green. I had to add the yellow to the notice cause I keeped on getting emails on this does not work or that does not work. Since I have added that yellow to that part of the message I no longer get any emails on what works or not. If you have a better idea as to where I can put that notice I will. I will even lose the yellow.

So your saying the green/blue does not work for you? What would you suggest?

Being mean!!! :) I take everything that is posted about my site with a grain of salt. I know everyone that looks at it and post something back to me is meant for me to look at what others see when they look at the site. I would rather have something said about it than nothing. At least when someone post something I have something to go with.

Thanks for the review. If you got ideas as to what can be changed, by all means let me know. I look at everything and try everything that is said.

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I'm not trying to be mean but...

My initial thought when I got to your page was 'eww' look at those colors. I almost didn't want to review it because of the green/blue and that bright yellow.

also the picture on the lower left doesn't work

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That is one way of looking at it. Being a shopping mall tends to do that. Got any ideas as to what can be done in its place?

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Where do you start,

If im honest the colour scheme is awful, maybe look at adjusting the gree and yellow slight, check the colour wheel.

For content and layout i would go back to the drawing board, do yuo actually aim to make money from this website?

My attention span lasted two seconds with this website, no something that i think many people would spend the time reading.

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I gave your site a review inadvertently on another site review page.

It was basically about those colors you've chosen.
Not good. There's nothing wrong with the layout really, just the colors are so awful. Low contrast and the blue links just don't stand out well.


Look at some competition that use fairly bright or contrasting colors:

http://half.ebay.com/index.jsp
http://www.ebay.com/
http://www.pricegrabber.com/ (they use green and purple)
http://www.overstock.com
http://www.amazon.com

Copy their layout techniques.

I would place a nice realistic looking globe in your holding hands graphic instead of that head of broccoli or whatever it is...

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I would place a nice realistic looking globe in your holding hands graphic instead of that head of broccoli or whatever it is...

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Got any idea as to where one could be found?
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I'm sorry the blue and green colours just don't work for me.

I do like the idea of a globe, however I would have pick a more realistic looking globe.[/img]
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I'm sorry the blue and green colours just don't work for me.

I do like the idea of a globe, however I would have pick a more realistic looking globe
Someone else made the logo for me. At the time I was very much happy with what I got since I do not know how to do this and paying someone to do this is not a option for me.

As for the colors, the logo is green so I went with that. I got very good feed back from the first time I changed the site.

What colors would you sugget?
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As for the colors, the logo is green so I went with that. I got very good feed back from the first time I changed the site.

What colors would you sugget?
The two different shades of blue on this site work well together, maybe you could find two shades of green that would work well together, if not I would go for two shades of blue or two shades of brown.

Maybe this colour chart might help: http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html

I would however change the colour of the text to black as it is much harder to read as it is.
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Hmmm. green/green - brown/brown - blue/blue

Well I am color blind, or have been told I am. It is that bad in looking at it? Hard to read?

I have green background, blue text (headers and links) and black text.

Hmmmm I am going to have to try and see if I can find something green/green than. Would it be dark green background and light green text or the other way around?
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Hmmm. green/green - brown/brown - blue/blue
Well I am color blind, or have been told I am. It is that bad in looking at it? Hard to read?
The blue text is diffiult to read, I would change the text to black as it's easier on the eyes

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Hmmmm I am going to have to try and see if I can find something green/green than. Would it be dark green background and light green text or the other way around?
I would keep your main text black and your background colour needs to be very light, so if you were to go with the green you background colour would be a very pale green.
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A web site needs to be inviting to a first time visitor and it should lend a professional air if the intent is to get people to buy online. The color scheme on YWI overall does not lend a professional first impression. Bright blue text on a dark green is very hard to read. I can't tell what color the sidebar background is - lavender? light blue? All of the chosen colors do not work well together, in my opinion.

Logos can send a mixed message regarding your identity. In the "Submit Your Logo for Review" forum here on WPW, I mentioned that your logo reminds me of All State (you're in good hands with All State) plus it looks like the hands are holding a cabbage, not the earth. Someone else in the same forum thought your earth looked more like a cabbage, too, so it might be a common misconception worth addressing.

Your logo got stretched out when placed on the lower portion of your page - it has lost its proper perspective.

You have GREAT content and excellent links - unfortunately, many of the design elements make your content come across too strong, too "hard sell". I'm compelled to leave rather than delve further into the site.

On the interior pages, the 8 pixel table border is too thick, too "in your face". Think clean, light and professional.

You're using H1 tags on your page titles but you can reduce the font size in your style sheet - right now the font is too large and comes across as YELLING. Reduce the size and lighten the weight for a more positive welcome.
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You have GREAT content and excellent links - unfortunately, many of the design elements make your content come across too strong, too "hard sell". I'm compelled to leave rather than delve further into the site.

On the interior pages, the 8 pixel table border is too thick, too "in your face". Think clean, light and professional.
Thanks about the content. That has been the hardest thing for me to do.

Table border - so your saying instead of the 8 pix maybe try a 4 pix? OR none at all? On some of my pages going with the none looked better than having any at all but on others I thought it looked better with the 8 pix instead of none. I have gone back and forth on this. I was using the border as a way of separting the content from the rest. The main place I use the 8 pix is to separte the affilitae links from the rest of the content on the page.
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Ok guys. Here is another test page of fonts. Since the blue fonts is hard to see on a green background I am taking MarcieZoob advice and will try to change it.

Background still has to be green. I have created a test site for fonts. Hopefully I will get some ideas as to what might look the best for users to read. I went with the basic colors for now. If you have any idea as to what color would look good please let me know what the code for it is. I will add that to the font test page and go from there.

http://www.yourweb.info/graphics/testfonts.htm

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Well done! You have proved conclusively that a strong green is useless as a background color.

If you really insist on green, then green on green is the least bad...
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If you really insist on green, then green on green is the least bad...
What background would you suggest? For that matter what colors would you suggest? Fonts? Background?
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What background would you suggest? For that matter what colors would you suggest? Fonts? Background?
Font are easy. The only websafe ones that are half decent are Verdana and Tahoma. As Tahoma is illegible that just leaves verdana (which is what this is). Forget Comic Sans, Times, Impact and Georgia.

Background colors? White - light grey (#EEEEEE) and any very light pastel - even green. But not dark green.
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Font are easy. The only websafe ones that are half decent are Verdana and Tahoma. As Tahoma is illegible that just leaves verdana (which is what this is). Forget Comic Sans, Times, Impact and Georgia.

Background colors? White - light grey (#EEEEEE) and any very light pastel - even green. But not dark green.
I got the font. I am looking for what color I should make the font and what color should the background to some of the areas be? As you can see I have blue for the color of the links and some blue on white, I than have blue on green in some areas, these are header type areas. I have been told that the blue on green is hard to see. So what combination should I use for those areas?
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After reading over the replies to this topic I can see you have received all the information needed in order to create a page that flows, is easy on the eyes, and will generate trust and eventually income. There are certain colors that people respond to without knowing. For instance light blues and pastels are usually calming colors. Reds and yellows and more of an alert. Have you noticed that most fast food places have red and yellow in their logos? Burger King, Taco Bell, McDonalds, etc. That's because those colors intice hunger and awareness. Think about it. The negative reactions you are receving from the members are due to incorporating colors that make them feel uncomfortable when the come to your site. That's something that needs to change or all your work is for nothing. Some questions now...
1. Why do you have to keep these colors? Because of your logo? Examples of what colors to use have already been posted by previous members.
2. I don't mind your logo. I guess others do...but, a lot of people just come here and are not happy until they find something wrong. But, If you recevied enough compliants would you change it? If you need to maybe I could help.

I like the content. And I know it takes tons of time to put that type of site together. Don't stop trying.
But still be open minded and don't get offended if people make suggestions. Even if they use words like "ewww". Good Luck
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Ok all you WPW reviewers. I re-did the main page of YourWeb.Info. Please take the time if you would and let me know if what you see is ok on the eyes. I took all of the green boxes out. Blast away once again.

Thanks to all who reply.
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Thought I would try to get this back in the open so that you can see the changes that were made on the main page. What do you guys think?
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not bad overall. I am curious as to why this link appears on the index page though:
http://www.yourweb.info/phpBB2/install/install.php

I'd think that would be a bad thing!
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All i will suggest is getting off of the 'web-safe' colour pallette...you can do SO much more without worrying about catering to the small percentage of people viewing the web on 256 colour monitors.

Just my opinion.

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Okay, it's a little thing, but I think you could improve all of the page titles and meta description tags.

The description tags are way too wordy... This is just the second half of one of them: "Click here to check out web info on the net. Here you will find all kinds of advertisements. Click on any of the advertisements and you will be taken to that site." 32 words of fluff!

Actually, I think all your copy would be stronger if it were boiled down to essentials. Another example: "For your convenience YWI has assembled some of the best retailers on the Internet. Just click on the links for convenient, fun and secure shopping all in one place. Simply pick a category and start shopping for the product you want. If you can't find what you are looking for, check out YWI Shopping Directory. There are hundreds of retailers all at your finger tips."

Now who's going to read all that! Page after page of that? I recommend shorter paragraphs, more use of bullets, more MEANINGFUL content, and higher keyword density.

A few testimonials would be good too.
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Thanks CJacobson. I am changing all of the context on each page from the same to something different.

As you go through the site you will see changes to this. I did this before I knew that I should of changed each page before I loaded them up.

I have been trying to keep most of that content down to say maybe 3-4 paragraphs. I have not done that with all pages. Got carried away on some pages.

Will take another look on those pages and see what I can come up with.

Again thanks for the comments. They help.
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not bad overall. I am curious as to why this link appears on the index page though:
yourweb.info/phpBB2/install/install.php

I'd think that would be a bad thing!
Darn I was hoping that someone would not notice that. Any ways that is just a test link for me. I was trying to install a forums area to the site. That link was going to be moved. I had to have a link to it so that I could test it out. Does not work yet. Have to delete that and re-install. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I plan on moving that link down to the bottom of the menu area. When it is up and running I will have that link on all pages.
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All I will suggest is getting off of the 'web-safe' colour pallette...you can do SO much more without worrying about catering to the small percentage of people viewing the web on 256 colour monitors.

Just my opinion.

Thanks!
It looks like I am on the color safe pallette. Intersting. Did not know I was doing that. First time I think someone has said that about the site. I am open to what colors may or may not be used on the site. I have a hard time with colors just to let you know. If you got any suggestions let me know.

Thanks for the comment about this. Will keep in mind.
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Okay,

How 'bout something like these colours?


Hope that helps!
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Where would those colors be used? Got an example? Background? Font?
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Just try a few combinations and see what works best for you...
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What are the codes for those colors?
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If you use FireFox, check out ColorZilla, its a must have extension.

The color codes from left to right are:
#66664C
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Thanks. That will make it easier to change than trying to match the colors you showed. I do have a color chart with all of those codes on it but as I have stated before, when it comes to color I get in trouble. It is like picking out clothes to wear. What color combinations work best?

Again thanks nullvariable for posting those codes.
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sure! Glad I could help out. One thing that someone told me once about picking colors was to pick several random colors from a painting. The artist has already done the color coordination for you.

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Never heard of this. I will have to keep this in mind when someone ask me about colors. Thanks the info.
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Tigercolor has a program called ColourImpact, which, when you enter a base colour, provides with numerous colour combinations, that typically look great. You can demo the product for 30 days (i think). What i did, was just make a whole whack of swatches based on what it provided, so whenever i'm a little under-inspired, i can just peruse the premade swatches, and away i go.

Hope that helps!

If you have a moment, could you please review my site here?

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tigercolor.com has a program called ColourImpact, which, when you enter a base colour, provides with numerous colour combinations, that typically look great. You can demo the product for 30 days (i think). What i did, was just make a whole whack of swatches based on what it provided, so whenever i'm a little under-inspired, i can just peruse the premade swatches, and away i go.

Hope that helps!

Thanks!
Thanks for the info. I will have to check this program out.

When you used it, was it very helpful?
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Absolutely...like I said, pick a base colour, enter it in, check out a few different combinations it offers, and create swatches you can hang onto for future use.

It's great if you're short on ideas for colours.
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Ok I need help with my code.

Netmechanic says I have 61 browser problems. For the life of me I can not find what they say I have a problem with.

I changed things around and deleted some code that was not needed. Now I get this.

If someone would look at my code and let me know where the error or errors are it would be a big help.

Thanks to whoever does this for me.
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Head over to w3's validator. it'll let you know what your problems are, and you should be able to work thru them. to be brutally honest, i really don't think anyone will be willing/able to walk you through fixing 61 errors!

good luck!
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Often one error can cause a cascading error or the error you are seeing could be duplicated thru out the page and a simple find replace may clean up quite a few. I'd be glad to help but I do charge for that service.
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Thanks guys.

W'3 will not validate my site cause of the affiliate links on it.

I will look over it again. I still have the older version of the site and will put that back up just to see if it does the samething to it. If not than I probably will be going over it line by line like I usually do. I just thought maybe someone might look at the code and see the error before I do.
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Alright, fairly new to the forum here, but not new to developing and designing-- at it for years. Get rid of the yellow and the big block letters up top. Make your headline if you will in less dense letters to get the surfers attention but not to paralyze them. Afterall, on the web you are selling passively whether you like it or not.

Make the colors light, bright and friendly and adding a couple of pics for art wouldn't hurt this densely composed site.
Overall, I like it and sooner or later with the right seo, which you need to work on desperately especially with the huge volume of keywords, which are ridiculously overdone, it will work for you.
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Mike what yellow are you talking about? The main page does not have any yellow that I know of. Guess that is the color that comes up with your system.

You should see gold/silver background or somewhat of a color like this. background code is BDBD8E Is the yellow you are seeing on the site?

The fonts are either blue or black.

Used to have green background/highlight areas with blue font over them. Was told it was hard to read. I have since been trying to figure out what colors would work the best for most users. I had thought the blue on this brighter color was going to work. Now I don't know.

The welcome to yourweb.info area is H1 code. Your saying that this is to big for that area? What would you suggest?

Adding pics for art would be a problem for me. The only way I could do that is finding pics already done and posting them. Right now the pics that are on there besides my logo are banners from merchants.

Your right about the keywords. I have been deleting some as I go. Trying to keep it down to a workable level. Some pages have just a few while others like the main page have a ton.

Thanks for taking the time to look at my site and give a review.
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What do you think of the color change on the main page?
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better...i'd suggest swapping the blue text colour tho...still to 1993...try something a little deeper perhaps. maybe give the links a little colour-change when you roll over them as well.

you're definately on the right track tho!
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What color change for the links would look best?
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i posted an entire colour swatch earlier on...you used the beige, so you've got a couple other colours to choose from...one of which was blue.

just take some time and cruise various websites...when you find some colours you like, use 'em!!! I'm not suggesting you blatently rip sites off, but use them for inspiration.
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