Tip: Before you submit a site for review here do this..

Check your site at http://www.sitereportcard.com and keep tweaking until you get 'perfect' on all checks.

Check your site at http://validator.w3.org and don't stop tweaking until your site validates. Flash insertion probably exempt(?).

Check your site on http://www.instantposition.com for the first 5 of your keywords.

Check your site on http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/index.jsp

Survive these and the world is your mollusc, if your site looks good too.

By following these tips (and others?) you will focus your reviews on the appearance of your website instead of the objective problems.

There maybe site checks I've missed but surely they will be listed below.

Good Luck.

what an excellent post! it will be very helpful to those asking for reviews.. because sometimes it;s not that easy to see all the problems a site has.

Great suggestion...

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Bootboy , this advice was too valuable to let slip through the boards.

For all those requesting a Site Review, this is an excellent course of action to take!

If you have any questions about any of the problems you might encounter, ask in the appropriate forums:

Validation & Design - Site Design

Accessibility - Accessibility & Usability

Optimising your site for Search Engines - Search Engine Discussion

Better websites makes for a more enjoyable Internet experience! :-)

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Bootboy and everyone else, I deny using Bobby, since his reports are not 100% valid.

For example when using empty or null alt tags, e.g alt="" or alt=" " with non-meaning images, as blind or spacer gifs, you do not pass priority 1 of the W3C/WAI WCAG 1.0, even if you really do.

More: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/....html#adef-alt

Try CynthiaSays. That is an accessibility validator I can trust.

For Mark-Up and more, see here: http://www.webnauts.net/check.html

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This is really great , this Bobby site I am hearing for first time, I will have to go through it to comment on it.

Thanks for great post.

Bootboy, thank you so much for posting those sites. Wonderful useful information.

Ceallach

Wish I had read this Topic before I put my site up for review, thanks for the links to test the site very useful.

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Hello all ya !

I have been looking into the websites you should visit before submitting a website for reviewing and discovered that all websites I have learned to love and like since I joined the www-community don't pass any of these tests with 'perfect' as a result. So why is it so important to pass all these tests ?

Even the http://www.sitereportcard.com website that is mentioned as a site you should visit before submitting will not pass the tests....

I am very curious !
Thanks,

kcire, your observations are very pertinent and your question valid.

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) and others, have, over the years, developed various languages/technologies with the aim of creating compatibility amongst the dozens, if not hundreds, of browsers in use. Without the rules the internet would become too chaotic and an inevitable exclusivity would develop. How many times have you seen 'Best viewed in IE5+ at 800x600'? What about blind people with text browsers or Netscape users?

As with national languages, if you want to be interpreted correctly by most it's a good idea to speak or write clearly. Unlike spoken or written languages which are full of variations and subtle nuances, the languages of the web are interpreted by unintelligent machines! Whilst the browser writers have developed ways around errors like missing end tags or quotation marks, errors at best slow down load time or at worst turn pages into dog's dinners! The browsers appear finally to have agreed a level of compliance, for everyone's benefit. As web designers we should celebrate this because it frees up our time to focus on the most important issue which is the content, layout and functionability of the sites we build.

You are right about http://www.sitereportcard.com/ and the warnings it generates. Also check http://www.google.com and my favourite sites like http://www.bbc.co.uk/ and http://www.guardian.co.uk/. Even the best designers get it wrong sometimes but that's no reason to not bother ourselves. Either they'll get it right or the <DOCTYPE> will be adapted to accommodate worthwhile developments.

Those working on the biggest sites don't need to worry too much about search engine placement but poorly put together sites do less well in the search engines for good reason. Chances are the content is suspect too. Would you buy a computer from a website that pops up error messages? Would you credit a scientific theory if it was peppered with spelling errors? Probably not, so Google et al will probably bury them deep. OK, so you don't have to get 'perfect' on all of the tests, sometimes it's impossible but you can still have a good go at it.

I haven't been visiting this forum for very long but I noticed a lot of sites submitted for review contained sloppy errors and typos. So I posted some useful links that I use myself (these days!) because I reckoned most people submitting sites actually wanted constructive observations about their layout and navigation, speed to load and usability. The validation, accessibility, spell-checking and search engine readiness tests are objective and are best dealt with by unintelligent machines!

I hope this answers your question.

Thank you for the above site analyzers.

Perhaps we could alter the statement from:
“Check your site at http://www.sitereportcard.com and keep tweaking until you get 'perfect' on all checks.”

To
“Check your site at http://www.sitereportcard.com and keep tweaking until you fix as much as you can.”

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Could I suggest that before submitting any sites for review people should also check each page of their site on http://www.copyscape.com/index.php - I realise it may be a little time consuming with large sites, but it will quickly pick up whether the 'inspiration' you get from other sites has crossed the line in to 'plagiarism'.
It would be more sensible to take the time to find out for yourself than risk an irate webmaster asking Google and Yahoo to delist you for copyright violation.

Bootboy great advise and tips for me as a newbie. I have tweaked my site in www.instantposition.com for keywords, and think it is as far as I can get it? It scores high on first 10 pages. The site validator I honestly dont fully understand as I do not understand all the code.I put site up for review a few weeks back and would welcome more input from all the knowledgeble people who post here.Anyone that could scan my site for problems and give me some tips would be a god send right now .And I may even offer a pure bred puppy of choice from my site if someone can really help me learn a little more :) Keep up the great postings you guys really do help alot of us.:)

hello, i want to submit my site for review but per the rules i want to make sure that it passess all the checks when trying to validate the site at http://validator.w3.org and i get 302 error and on other sites i am not able to check its status. My site was listed in google but its not there any more. Its 1.5 year old but i have recently moved my site to a dedicated server. can you please let me know whats wrong so that i can validated it through and then submit it for review.

My site is http://www.pakfellows.com

Hey irfan12jan they're not rules, I'm only a visitor here! They're just useful links to help you clean-up basic errors before submitting for review. Please post a request for review regardless and I for one will take a look at it.

Hi There
I was going to submit my site for review and came across the sites for validation and thought I would run and amend my home page with the validation sites suggestions. Apart from not quite understanding some of the problems to fix them, the line number given does not correlate to my site i.e in DW for me to change my problems?

Also does validator.org cache your site, I had 81 problems so I added alt tags to about 35 small arrow images, re-submitted and I still get 81 problems??

Thanks for reading

Ian

Hi Ian,

I could only see 69 problems when I tried to validate your homepage (maybe you've just fixed some?). As far as I'm aware, the validator doesn't cache your site.. if you click on "Re-validate" after making changes to your site, the results should reflect your changes.
One or two things I noticed, if you replace the ampersand character (&) with a &amp; that will reduce your error count. Also, in your CSS and HTML, using a class for your "left-right" rather than an id will also help significantly. id is used to control a single occurrence of an element, whereas class can be used throughout your pages.

Hope that helps,

Paul

PS. the line numbers would correlate if you were using a text editor to edit your pages. Maybe DW is not counting lines held in a non-editable template area?

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Not sure why I kept getting the same results. I'm home now (phew my day is done!! I wish) and I have the same results as you now.

I'll crack on with the rest once I understand them all. haha

Thank you

Ian Hill

Thanks for listing those 'Tweak' Links. They were very helpful...

Have a Great Day,
Kristian Pulz

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WOW! I just love this whole site! Where were you guys all my life! Such wonderful links and posts! Such wonderful helpful tools! I'm really enjoying my experience with you guys! WOW! Anyone can be a SUPER SEOzer here! You guys ROCK!

Thanks for this site! What a resource!

JB

The extra sites will help me improve the site, thank for that.

I also use the following :

Echo Echo Web Tools

Very usefull.

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