http://www.prorecovery.net

meed622 · #1 (**permalink**) 07-09-2004, 02:45 PM

Hi Everyone,

It's been a minute..been busy...Looking for all of the wisdom and insight you have to offer.

Please review my latest project and provide feedback.

Thanks

http://www.prorecovery.net[/url]

meed622 · #2 (**permalink**) 07-09-2004, 04:52 PM

any comments...please & thank you

meed622 · #3 (**permalink**) 07-09-2004, 11:37 PM

O.K. I am getting really nervous here. Is something wrong w/the site..problems viewing.download time...I see i have had a few views but no comments...really looking for input here...

I am not feeling the love...(smile)

The good, the bad, & the ugly--all comments, suggestions, welcome....

MJB

calebtheredwood · #4 (**permalink**) 07-10-2004, 12:59 AM

Loads good, looks good. I like how short the intro is. I'm getting sick of clicking 'skip intro' all the time. The only suggestion I have is that if people are going to trust you, you may want to let them get to know you better. Add some more personal info. Talk more about the inner company structure. Maybe thats nit-picking. It looks really professional ;)

Redwood

amberstar702 · #5 (**permalink**) 07-10-2004, 04:55 AM

I like your website. The graphics are good, download time is fine. Appearance is professional.

In reading thru your content, it provides sufficient information to state what you do and how you do it.

IMO, this is one of the best websites that have come thru Webproworld in the Review section.

Regards,

vwebworld · #6 (**permalink**) 07-10-2004, 05:25 AM

I suggest adding meta tags to you flash intro page,
and move the meta tags in your other pages before
the scripting code..... so the meta tags can be "seen"
first.

~Roland

meed622 · #7 (**permalink**) 07-10-2004, 01:27 PM

Thanks for the great tips and comments...

Robert Warren · #8 (**permalink**) 07-10-2004, 03:44 PM

Meed,

I can't speak for anyone else here, but the first few times I tried your site I only got a blank page. This time it worked.

Some comments:

1. "Welcome": what truly must be one of the most ineffective headlines you possibly could be using on your top page.

2. Your first sentence in your top page copy is relying on a passive verb construction ("is"); passive verbs kill reading momentum and make it harder to transition to the rest of the copy (both for reader and writer). You're giving the reader a perfect reason to stop reading, with your very first sentence.

3. Your copy falls back a lot on corporate-speak ("develop a customized course of action", "develop strategic solutions to meet the requirements", etc.); it's difficult to see a real human being behind that kind of language. Consider using words that are simpler and more direct.

4. I'm just not sure about "PAR for the course to your financial future". Regardless of the technical definition, "par for the course" is often used colloquially to mean average and undistinguished from the expected norm. My first reaction upon reading that tagline was to ask, "what are they trying to say? That they'll do the minimum necessary, but won't go above and beyond?" I really question whether that tagline is as thought-out as it could be.

minstrel · #9 (**permalink**) 07-10-2004, 05:13 PM

You may also have a potential trademark/wordmark issue with another PAR: Psychological Assessment Resources, Inc., aka PAR, a company that has been around for I'd guess 20 years or more (Florida based but international).

Although it's not evident on their website, I was struck by your logo and one they used to use at least on their printed materials...

candlese · #10 (**permalink**) 07-10-2004, 09:14 PM

Hi- well I have to agree on the basics with R.Warren. I found that your site loaded well, but the intro was so short lived I did not have a chance to actually read it. I might do away with the intro page- as for the welcome- as Mr. Warren found it was a bit shall we say- common.
The trade mark issue is a definite look and see for you.
Par for the course- to me is : the usual. Do you really want to say that? I don't want to hire the usual. How about -Par-excellance ( need a team for the hole in one)showing me what you do is fast, efficent, and complete- or something that would make me feel you were special and not par for the course. Or add team at the end- then you would be PART- they part with the money- lol - there are many different ways to go about it.
Also- for you roll-overs on the tab- you may want to make them a bit more bolder. As well as adding your alt tags- for the visually impared!
I did like your site, I think I might just invest in changing the par - to stand for something else.
As someone your trying to attract- I would think twice before using you.
I do like the graphics and the idea. I hope this has helped some.

PizdusInc · #11 (**permalink**) 07-10-2004, 09:22 PM

Very clean and eye friendly design! However, I did notice that you have A LOT of blank space in your source code... it will not have a huge effect on the page loading but you may want to get rid of that space.

I am not sure if you are going to promote the site or are looking to rank pretty well on the search engines, but if you are you may want to include META tags for description and keywords. Also, a site map would help.

Very nice site!

meed622 · #12 (**permalink**) 07-10-2004, 11:19 PM

Thanks for your feedback..all good points...I will need to speak w/my client in reference to the tagline..I know they have produced somethings already w/that tagline...great feedback...

MJB

FiveGrand · #13 (**permalink**) 07-11-2004, 07:14 PM

Quote:

2. Your first sentence in your top page copy is relying on a passive verb construction ("is"); passive verbs kill reading momentum and make it harder to transition to the rest of the copy (both for reader and writer). You're giving the reader a perfect reason to stop reading, with your very first sentence.

Robert, good comments. I had to look up what you were talking about, but what you said makes good sense.

As for the site, it definitely has a nice look. The whole PAR issue may be a problem. I found this definition:

Quote:

par - a state of being essentially equal or equivalent; equally balanced; "on a par with the best"

You definitely want to convey that you exceed par, not meet it. I think the company name may need reexamined.

Also, on the home page flash animation you may want to check your pixel alignments. The words "Financial Future" appear blurry on my screen, and no one wants a blurry financial future. Also the right click flash menus are not disabled, allowing visitors to zoom in and control the animation, which may not be desired.

matthewdean · #14 (**permalink**) 07-11-2004, 08:27 PM

Hi,

I agree with Robert Warren. Your website is nice and loads fast but the copy just feels a bit too much like someone not a copywriter writing copy. You might want to invest a few bucks getting this realy clean. For example, you've got:

"The driving force of any business, large or small, is cash flow. Delinquent receivables can not only slow your profitability, but can adversely affect the security of your financial future."

I'd phrase it more like this:

"Large or small, all businesses depend on cash flow to drive them. Not only can delinquent receivables slow your profitability, they can adversely affect your future financial security."

Cheers,

meed622 · #15 (**permalink**) 07-11-2004, 09:27 PM

Thanks again for all the feedback...it is really great to be apart of this community....as far as finding a good copywriter--can anyone point me into the right direction--I am looking for someone interested in freelance work---

thanks for all the input...

MJB

Tim · #16 (**permalink**) 07-13-2004, 08:36 PM

It's a good, clean site Maleka and I agree with all of the recommendations above, especially about the tag line, it's a shame that Par for the course doesn't mean excellence. I only have a couple of points;

Really picky but I don't like 'userid' on the account status 'user id' or even 'name'(!) would be better for me.

Check out your validation at http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...net%2Fhome.htm
Most of the errors are easy to fix but some are to do with Dreamweaver's cross-browser work-around for inserting flash. For the latter there's a fix at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/. I don't bother with it but I think we should really.

I'm viewing on Firefox 0.9.2 the fastest browser I know and am currently connected at 45.2kbps (fast for these parts!) but can still read all of the text on the pages before the flash loads and then I miss the first line. I only knew it was there because I replayed it, eg. on skiptracing.htm, the line 'We can find the whereabouts of the unknown...' disappears too quickly, can you give it a second or two longer?

As it happens I think you're going to have to ditch the whole golfing analogy but it was always a bit of a forced thing.

Good luck.

cocooner · #17 (**permalink**) 07-14-2004, 08:51 AM

Your flash intro has a big typo! PAR for the couse - I'm sure you meant course.

voodooboy · #18 (**permalink**) 07-14-2004, 09:13 AM

The one thing I do not understand is why you have a column in your logo, but everything on your site screams golf tournament/resort?

Believe me, I understand you thought here. But you are going to lose 90% of the viewing audience in your golf references. Not everybody plays golf. And a larger number of businesses that may need your CORPORATE type services (notice I say corporate services and not golf services) are going to be female business owners; and even fewer of them play or know anything about golf.

I like the site, and I like the idea behind it. My only concern for you would be that you are targeting a very specific (and limited) market with your presentation. It would be better to dump the golf references and imagery all-together and go more corporate than to look like a golf resorts web site.

Your services submenu shifts vertically when going through the pages. May want to look at the coding there to stop the shifting of the links.

The return to top on your FAQ’s page only goes to the top of that table. That doesn’t help me when the navigation is above that and I have to scroll anyway. Move your anchor to the top of the header so the page moves ALL THE WAY back up.

I also noticed that your copy text is a little close to the border of your tables. I would suggest more padding there to push the text in a little more. Currently you are creating a type of visual claustrophobia that forces you to constantly look at the line which makes many people lose their place when reading.

Hope this helps. Best of luck.

Txarán · #19 (**permalink**) 07-14-2004, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meed622

any comments...please & thank you

I see your background picture (background.jpg is 170 KB, you could reduce the loading time by making it smaler, like 1kb !!!!.
I even made it for you. You can download it from My image folder
It looks small but the effect is the same.
make sure you change the name. (its now backgroundGreen)

meed622 · #20 (**permalink**) 07-16-2004, 02:33 PM

Thanks for the great feedback. I am currently in clean up mode with this project, making some changes. I will rethink the golf theme--my goal was to be different and display the connection of golf to wealth, security, and that comes through maintaining a "good and sustaining cash flow through better management of a/r"..however, I guess my idea is not working out that well. I do understand that in order to "get" the idea you would need to have better knowledge of the actual game of golf. Keep that great comments coming..will post the site again once I have completed all the updates.

Thanks again,
Maleka

TaKoda · #21 (**permalink**) 07-16-2004, 03:27 PM

I appreciate the short intro page, which automatically switched to your main page. I have grown to HATE intro pages…. I guess they serve a purpose; I just never caught on to it.

It seems as though your home page took forever to load (56K dial-up). In fact, I am still waiting for it to finish loading before I delve deeper into your site… Ahhhh, there it is… a nice BIG picture. My husband & I would love to there right now! Maybe you should consider optimizing your header graphics as they are slowing down your menu effects.

I agree with Bootboy, I dislike the look of userid.

Does your <!-- function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0 really require all the empty brackets?

As ghstdrgns stated, at first glance, I had the impression of a golf course, but after reading your intro, I understood the connection. Ghstdrgns has a good point on your return to top. You should at least set it to include your menu.

Other than that, I see that you have a very nice looking, clean, easy to navigate site. As far as the ‘legal’ side, I am not into that, but good luck with it.

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