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Old 06-21-2004, 12:30 PM
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Default www.nipplecharms.com - Body Jewelry but context is mature

Hi all,

I was given permission to post my site for review. There is some adult content/pictures showing our jewelry on this site. PLEASE BE WARNED. If this offends you please do not click on the link.

Non-Piercing Body Jewelry

I can let you know what my main keywords are but I think you can tell from the site when you get there. :)

Any constructive suggestions on either the site or the SEO would be very much appreciated. I am at my wits end. Of course I do not have hundreds of $$ yet to spend on SEO so I seek help as I can find it. On one term we were as high as 3 and today we are at 20, all within the last 5-6 weeks. I am trying to get as many link backs as I can.

I have seen some great posts so we were hoping.... :)

We are having the Logo redone.

Thanks and thanks for allowing us to post here!

Michael

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Old 06-21-2004, 09:39 PM
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Well the copy does get across a proposition. It is, quite literally and figuratively "in your face" about that proposition. You make some bold claims I think would sound better in testimonial form.

The layout is pretty clean and layout seems to make sense. The only way to make certain is have a customer go from browse to purchase. Then you can be sure real use produces real information.

The site is okay. I would suggest a more formal profile of your target customer. This may or may not suggest a different layout. Personally I didn't get a feel for a customer likely to buy this product. With a better understanding of who buys it and why (expressed in copy) other people who may be cosidering this can make the decision to buy.
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Old 06-22-2004, 03:47 PM
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Well the copy does get across a proposition. It is, quite literally and figuratively "in your face" about that proposition. You make some bold claims I think would sound better in testimonial form.

Personally I didn't get a feel for a customer likely to buy this product. With a better understanding of who buys it and why (expressed in copy) other people who may be cosidering this can make the decision to buy.
DO you think it is too in your face. I had a sales copywriter write it for me. What bold claims do mean?

Our clients are about 2/3 male buying for female.

Do you have any suggestion on what kind of copy to which you refer. All suugestions are weclome.

Thanks DCrux.

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Old 06-22-2004, 04:08 PM
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Ow, ow, ow, ow...As a person who doesn't even wear earrings, this review is a painful thing.

Actually, I found the site very interesting and informative. The site design is good, pages loaded quickly.

I'm glad to hear there are non-piercing varieties.


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Old 06-22-2004, 04:13 PM
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Ow, ow, ow, ow...As a person who doesn't even wear earrings, this review is a painful thing.

Actually, I found the site very interesting and informative. The site design is good, pages loaded quickly.

I'm glad to hear there are non-piercing varieties.
What part was painful? My site? We are an alternative to the PAIN :)

I love the snowflake site you have. Very quick to load. I will have to show it to the kids.

Thanks for the review

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Old 06-22-2004, 05:13 PM
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I would have never known that people actually had an interest in this kind of stuff. It was very interesting and I give you an A+++++ on creativity. It is always hard to find interesting and new products to create, market, and sell. You have done that well, Good Job!

One thing that I think you need to do is to move the links that are on the left side for your inner pages closer to the top so that you do not have to scroll down to click them. Also it might be better to leave the more interesting pictures for the inner pages and not the main page. That way when people arrive to your site it is not as suprising. It was almost like being hit in the face with those, not that I mind at all! But you know what I mean! Good luck with your website.
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Old 06-22-2004, 06:52 PM
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It was almost like being hit in the face with those, not that I mind at all! But you know what I mean!
I could think of worse... It definitely, as a male, holds your attention! Kind of disappointing that enlarged view is just the jewelry. I would work on balancing the pages at this point. With the logo in the center, balance the page either with a third column or move some pictures to the right side of the page.
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Old 06-22-2004, 09:21 PM
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What bold claims do mean?
The claims for enhancing pleasure. The copy has to back up claims with some sort of proof. One good -- simple -- way is to have a customer explain that this does indeed enhance pleasure in some way. Since your majority customer is male, I would suggest having the female point of view.
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Old 06-23-2004, 01:06 AM
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I was actually trying to be funny with the ow, ow, ow stuff. :-)

I was reviewing your site surreptitiously at the office. Trying my darndest not to let the co-workers know what I was doing. I was busted tho by a friend. Hee hee. Disappointed that your ***** jewel only showed the jewel :-(

Please give my snowflake site a review will you?
I can't offer you a reciprocal link on the children's site for obvious reasons but I do have another site wich I will be working on soon to accept reciprocal links.

http://www.rthoughtsrfree.org Please enter your info in the guestbook for now. :-)

my customer will thank you later!

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Old 06-23-2004, 01:16 AM
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I fought it, and just couldn't resist!, and I apologize in advance but:

Do you also carry the nipple shields like Janet wears? I know someone who might be interested! Only thing is, they would need to be a pierced variety.

Again, I apologize, and I know you are serious, but I am too!

LOL - Must be an effective Site - You got my attention!

Let's get serious for a minute:

You have blown thru with a Home Page equivalent PR4 to almost every product page linked on your site. You are way ahead of the crowd! What do you suppose happened to http://www.nipplecharms.com/patrioti...e-jewelry.html with the PR3? Was it stuffed too full of "Patriotic"?, I am not sure, let's help them call it guys! What do you think?

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Old 06-23-2004, 05:47 AM
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Default interesting products

I would change the red-dotted-line between the menu items, to me its too loud. Perhaps it would be better if the links in between wer not blue, I just see it as too much contrast, or non-complimentary colors.

basically i think it all looks ok, except the left-menu.

I know you need to show the shippers logos, and the payment-method logos, but those 2 sections both look a little busy to me, and I dont have a suggestion for fixing other than to bump that stuff off the first page. Maybe you could use text on the first page, and show the logos later, but ask a marketer, if thats going to affect your sales.

As for mature content, I think its a very sad reflection of the world that a breast is regarded as something only to be seen by adults. Its just a body part, some look nice, some not so nice, some very nice. But I understand that you need to give the warning.

I was dissapointed not to see a photo of the belly button ring in action so to speak. And perhaps a really good photo of that could go on the Imature-Adults section, along with the ankle,ear and wrist jewlery.
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Old 06-23-2004, 03:46 PM
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Default What great comments

Ok first and foremost, thank you all for your comments. We were braced for some really off color comments but what we received bodes well for the caliber of people here. You are all professional and we thank you! And we are always willing to hear other’s constructive suggestions and opinions!

Now, lets see what I can do here but way of comments:


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I would have never known that people actually had an interest in this kind of stuff.

One thing that I think you need to do is to move the links that are on the left side for your inner pages closer to the top so that you do not have to scroll down to click them. Also it might be better to leave the more interesting pictures for the inner pages and not the main page.
You would be surprised to see what people ask us for! I agree with you about the links and will work on that. I have received a number of posts (private and thru e-mail) suggesting even more pictures on the front page. All of my competitors do. I am reluctant to do that and will leave it at that.

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With the logo in the center, balance the page either with a third column or move some pictures to the right side of the page.
BJ, not sure how to do that short of redesigning the entire site….. Also, I received your e-mails and thanks. I did respond!!

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One good -- simple -- way is to have a customer explain that this does indeed enhance pleasure in some way. Since your majority customer is male, I would suggest having the female point of view.
Proof is in the eyes of the beholder. Does Tide really GET THE DIRT OUT BEST? Would you suggest a female testimonial on the index page? I can do that. That may be the third column that BJ talks about? But that is why I have a testimonial page. Is that where you were going here? I like the idea.. Will that make the page too long? I am trying not to have the view scroll too much. Or is that not important. My main competitor page goes on forever! And she is consistently #1. Hummmm?

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I was reviewing your site surreptitiously at the office. Disappointed that your ***** jewel only showed the jewel :-(

Please give my snowflake site a review will you?
Pat. I sure will. I did see your site briefly and loved it. It was easy to navigate. My only concern, and not really a concern is what/who is your audience and what are your keywords people will use to get to your site. I will post something in your thread. Thanks. On, as soon as I can get a good model for the men’s jewelry, we will have them “up!” :)


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Do you also carry the nipple shields like Janet wears? I know someone who might be interested! Only thing is, they would need to be a pierced variety.

LOL - Must be an effective Site - You got my attention!

You have blown thru with a Home Page equivalent PR4 to almost every product page linked on your site. You are way ahead of the crowd! What do you suppose happened to <a href=http://www.nipplecharms.com/patriotic-nipple-jewelry.html>Patriotic Jewelry</a> with the PR3? Was it stuffed too full of "Patriotic"?, I am not sure, let's help them call it guys! What do you think?
Thanks Ken. We do not carry the shields… if I had a nickel…. :)

I am not sure how effective the site is as I cannot get back to the top 10 on google. I was 19 yesterday and 16 today. My biggest jump is nipple jewelry, from 61 to 48-49. But tomorrow I may be at 72 again. Non piercing nipple jewelry was big.. as high as 4. I am at 16 today. I am not sure why I am a PR4. Lucky? I am also surprised the others are as good as I have all the back links to the index page. Suggestion are welcome.

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I would change the red-dotted-line between the menu items, to me its too loud. Perhaps it would be better if the links in between wer not blue, I just see it as too much contrast, or non-complimentary colors. basically i think it all looks ok, except the left-menu.
Can you try that again? Do you want the breaks to be blue? What would you suggest for the left menu?

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I know you need to show the shippers logos, and the payment-method logos, but those 2 sections both look a little busy to me, and I dont have a suggestion for fixing other than to bump that stuff off the first page. Maybe you could use text on the first page, and show the logos later, but ask a marketer, if thats going to affect your sales.

As for mature content, I think its a very sad…

I was disappointed not to see a photo of the belly button ring in action so to speak. And perhaps a really good photo of that could go on the Immature-Adults section, along with the ankle, ear and wrist jewelry.
I am not sure about the shipping and credit cards. I can put all of that at the bottom, out of the way, at least on the index page…. Thanks

We are working on others models for the other jewelry. You are right, a hot body with belly jewelry is…. Is it hot in here all of a sudden? :) But you are right.

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I have been e-mailing all of my current links to update me to text links with nipple jewelry as the link words. What about all the banner links out there. I have many. Should I tell them to change to text links? Even my text links are not showing up on the link:www.YourNameHere on Google. I think I have 8-10 back links.

Wow, sorry I ran so long. We did have our logo redone. Thanks BJ. Nikki loves it. She says it “feels” better that the other. I still think there is too much “white” at the top. My lack of HTML skill.

What does everyone think of some of these optimization companies that claim not to change your page but get you the top 3 ranking? Is it worth the $40/month? Just wondering.

Thanks again all. This is way too kewl!

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Here are some things that might cause search engine issues:

You are using your keywords ineffectively. You are only using 333 characters when you can use up to 1000.

You are spamming the keyword nipple. You are using it 8 times when the maximum is 6 times. This keyword may be rejected by the search engines.

Your Description is too long and may be cut short or not included in some search engines.
You are using 331 characters when the maximum is only 250.
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Old 06-24-2004, 08:18 AM
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Well, at least we all now know that including the word 'nipple' in your domain will get over a dozen reviews on Webproworld. Though I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to sell that angle to the majority of my clients...

In any case, I don't have much to add to the design feedback you've already received. Regarding your search engine effectiveness, it occurs to me that you possibly face a unique challenge in that you're competing (whether or not you want to) marginally in the adult web site market a.k.a. porn.

Okay, I know you're site isn't a porn site, but the adult "theme" might put you in a position where you're competing against a *massive* number of other adult sites for the same keywords, phrases, and links. So, getting quality buying traffic from these terms (as opposed to junk traffic from folk who are looking for...ahem...other stuff) will be an ongoing challenge, at least in the Google / Yahoo arena.

You're probably going to have to be really aggressive with regards to soliciting links from niche sites (piercing, tattooing & alternative body adornment / jewelry sites for example) that will refer good buying traffic. You are also a good candidate to write articles for niche newsletters & publications (online and print).

Cheers,
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