Suggestions... comments... any feedback appreciated!



Thanks in advance

Well, it took me a few seconds to figure out what it was, but figure it out I did: the state of Ohio, ostensibly super-imposed with a wine bottle pouring wine into a glass.

But it still looks like a bunch of squiggly lines. There's no depth, or dimensionality, and precious little color variance. Also the text "Idaho Licensed Beverage Association" appears to me to be - ironically - falling over (as in dead drunk). Similarly, it can be construed as falling off (the wagon).

I'd vote for a redo.

Bill M.

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i think its a good starting point, but wbmcl is right, i dont think it is quite there yet. It does look to line heavy and the text was pretty hard to read. Nothing really stands out on it.

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Ok... started from scratch... again... any suggestions comments are appreaciated.

ILBA

Thanks again

Number 7 looked the best to me.

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I agree, #7 is the best. The only issue I see is the text (in all of them) exhibits "jaggies" and the smaller text below "ILBA" is mottled.

Bill M.

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Not sure I understand what you mean by "Jaggies" could you please explaine?

Jaggies are the stair-step effects found on the edges of rasterized text or graphics, most notably on low-resolution. You can see them on diagonal text in particular, such as on the "A" in ILBA. Creating the logo in a vector program such as Illustrator may help to alleviate the obviousness of jaggies. However, more noticeable is the mangled sub-text, "Idaho Licensed Beverage Assocation". That text appears to have been downsampled and thus exhibit compression artifacts. That can be more easily rectified by using the proper font size per situation.

Bill M.

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I am using illustrator... and I see what you are saying about jaggies... never heard them called that before... I believe it's called pixilization. I've noticed that Illustrator CS doesn't work nearly as well as its predicessor. Not sure If I've missed a setting... but it's set for anti-alliase (?sp)... I guess that's something I'll have to play with. Any ideas?

Did you create in Illustrator, then rasterize, then downsample? That would explain why both ILBA and the tagline below exhibit compression artifacts. By that, I mean the faint grey line on top of I, B, and A and also bottom middle of the A, and as mentioned before, the somewhat garbled tagline. To potentially alleviate, you would create the vector, then downsample, then rasterize. Note the different order than the assumptive above.

Interesting history on the word "jaggies" here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaggies

Bill M.

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Nope... Created in Illustrator then taken directly from AI to a downsampled JPG. So, I'm not quite sure what the issue is.... Never had this issue before with Illustrator... just since I got CS. ??? I'll keep playing with it though. Thanks!