tell me what you think, please..... (mika)

mika_em · #1 (**permalink**) 01-03-2006, 10:55 PM

Hi, this is Michelle Em... also known here as mika...

I wanted to thank Webpro for all the traffic they sent me by putting me on their newsletter...

My new website is called EMPROBABILITY, it is a database for NEW webdesigners and talent (models, actors etc.) to get their first website or portfolio online.

Check out my logo, tell me what you think, the website link will be coming soon. :)

http://www.geocities.com/whatmodelagency/emlogomain.bmp

cheers, mika :)

Scott Adie · #2 (**permalink**) 01-09-2006, 07:03 PM

Hi Mika_em,
Your site name implies improvisation or the ability to improvise to me. Another take on that might be to 'use your talents, skills and abilities to make things happen'. Kind of a McGyver approach comes to mind, you know, where you take a piece of gum and a paperclip and built a hang glider or sail boat or something else equally challenging. If I'm on the right track, and I confess that I may be completely off-base, I think your logo design sort of falls short of communicating this. I don't like to be critical but it doesn't say anything to me. It takes a while for logos to carry the identity of a company well but look at the ones that stick in your mind, Coke, ATT, Nike, Cingular Wireless, etc. and think about what makes them memorable. Although text is usually incorporated into the design, over time, it should stand on it's own. Can you incorporate that into your design?

mika_em · #3 (**permalink**) 01-09-2006, 10:43 PM

Dear Scott, Thanks for the reply... maybe this can help you visualize better. http://mika.hothost.tv
I think a logo's ability to stand on it's own is a direct result of the success of the product, or service, as in the case of my website. (of course, through advertising etc.) I think if you, as you say, implied that my site was an attempt to "use ...talents, skills and abilities to make things happen, then you would be very accurate. Which brings an interesting point, that without other text incoporated, my logo did communicate it's message, and VERY precisely I might add. If alternatively, you are implying that my logo IS text unlike Nike's logo, then I must ask your argument for Coke? Isn't their logo text? Why does any company become memorable? Because of their logo? I think their logo becomes memorable because of the quality of the service provided... i could put a banana on a speaker and call it my logo, what then makes a banana, THE logo for speakers, the tried and tested performance of the speaker.

Scott Adie · #4 (**permalink**) 01-12-2006, 06:06 PM

Hi Michelle,
Now I get it better. You're absolutely right about most of what makes a memorable logo. It's the quality of the entire package of products and/or services provided attached to a recognizable logo and the frequency of exposure.

Maybe Coke wasn't such a great example, I was thinking more of the 'twisted white ribbon' that they used in much of their promotional material. Of course the Coke text logo is the more memorable part. But, it's worth noting that it's highly stylized into a graphic and bears only a little resemblance to common usage text.

And... perhaps a banana would make a great logo for an audio product. Once the product has sufficient exposure and market share combined with a quality reputation for the product and service of the company, then I like the banana.

Let me ask you this; Is your logo going to see a lot of use on printed material?

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I forgot to track this thread.

mika_em · #5 (**permalink**) 01-12-2006, 08:36 PM

Let me ask you this; Is your logo going to see a lot of use on printed material?

Hi Scott..
Actually, EMPROBABILITY is the website name... I think as a website "logo", (as opposed to a product logo), it works well for what I want... When people hear EMPROBABILITY, I want them to think of the website.

If it entails, which I'm sure it will, further need for marketing, and/or re-defining, then that will be dealt with as it arises. As for now, the weight of the project doesn't necessarily need a selling point, but more so to get online, onto good durable servers, etc, then afterwards, I deal with the rest.. :)

It is a small project/venture with high hopes. Thanks for the input, I will be sure to keep it in mind.

Mika

Scott Adie · #6 (**permalink**) 01-13-2006, 05:25 PM

Sounds like you've thought it out well. Also sounds like an interesting project. Hope is works really well for you.

Went to your personal blog site you listed on the intro page here. You did a nice job on it. Having been there, I've no doubt your career will be a great success. You've got the look!

I'll check back from time to time on both to see how it's going. LOL

Scott

icb01co2 · #7 (**permalink**) 02-20-2006, 11:38 AM

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My new website is called EMPROBABILITY, it is a database for NEW webdesigners and talent (models, actors etc.) to get their first website or portfolio online.

So let me get this right, your trying to put models and web developers together. Where do I sign up :-)

darren13 · #8 (**permalink**) 02-22-2006, 05:28 AM

Hi Mika,

Sorry, not entirely sure what to make of it. It obviously looks good, and professional. But I'm drawing a blank when looking at it.

Emprobability sounds a bit like improbability to me - is there another play on words I'm missing? Is there some 'M' theory or string theory physics stuff going on that I've missed?

Sorry can't be more helpful, maybe I'll get it more when I see your site, good luck!

Thanks,
Darren.

MarcieZoob · #9 (**permalink**) 02-22-2006, 06:00 AM

The font is too italicized and leans much too far to the right. I don't like the font either - it looks really DATED.

eightfifteen · #10 (**permalink**) 02-22-2006, 02:32 PM

I have to agree with Marcie. That much slant makes it hard to read. With a name and subtext as long as it is, they have to be very easy to read.

The font reminds me of "Wargames" (circa 1983?)

mindwhirl · #11 (**permalink**) 02-27-2006, 09:21 PM

I don't like it.

Bad font, too much slant. This green was all the rage at the inception of the web. It's dated now.

Plus, always remember: Less is more.

Where do the lines go? What do they connect to? Why are they there?

I'm not trying to be mean or rude. I do this for a living and I know what sells. I think u should hear the truth. This will be a stumbling block to the brand you want to build.

Since I'm obviously not making friends here...let me just add. I don't like the name EMPROBABILITY. I think of improbability. Which means it ain't gonna happen. I'd rethink the name.