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Old 09-13-2008, 10:29 AM
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Default Number of Times a Word Should be in Page Title

So, I want to include severla search engine keywords in my page title but there is the word "badges" in pretty much every one. I'm wondering if I can remove the words badges from some of them and the search engines will still see the page as relevant. Here is how it is currently:

"Name Badges, Corporate Bades, Enamelled, Pin, Identity, Classic Badges"

I'm wondering if I can get away with one use of "badges" to save room for other keywords or should it be in every search engine term. It would be good to get everyone's opinion on how often a word should appear in a page title.
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Old 09-16-2008, 05:32 PM
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First you need to do keyword research to see which term has the highest searches and use that as the primary term.

2nd most pages will rank well for one term or two, (competition dependent) so trying to rank for more than such, with one page, won't work usually.

Using the keyword multiple times will be considered keyword stuffing and filtered.

Being as it is the title tag which is of great import to certain search engines the filter will hurt you..

You should find synonyms for the word - badges - such as, name tags...

You could write it as
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Name Badge Corporate Enameled Pin Identity Holder Classic Badges www.yourdomain.com>

Always try to include your URL in your title tag of your home page to ensure # 1 position for your domain name.

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Old 09-16-2008, 06:19 PM
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Don't put your domain name in every page title, they will carry no weight. If they already know your domain name they aren't going to search for it and if they don't know who what your domain name is, then you are better off with keywords using up those precious spaces instead of your domain name - this will give you more chances to help your website to being found.

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While it is commonly held that the contents of the "keyword" meta-tag is discounted by some SEs, with a greater emphasis placed on keywords appearing within the content of the page itself, said meta-tag is not wholly without value.

That having been said, it should not be assumed that any SE's indexing machine will be sufficiently adept at interpreting "X, Y, Badges" as meaning "X Badges" and "Y Badges."

Therefore, if keyword research shows that there is useful search traffic for "X Badges" and "Y Badges," then your keyword meta-tag should, at a minimum, be "X Badges, Y Badges." I.e., include each search phrase in its entirety, rather than a list of the isolated individual words.
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Therefore, if keyword research shows that there is useful search traffic for "X Badges" and "Y Badges," then your keyword meta-tag should, at a minimum, be "X Badges, Y Badges." I.e., include each search phrase in its entirety, rather than a list of the isolated individual words.
So there fore if you take this in conjunction with this

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Using the keyword multiple times will be considered keyword stuffing and filtered.

Being as it is the title tag which is of great import to certain search engines the filter will hurt you..
You need to write a separate page for variations ...

Which may or may not make a lot of sense because now you have to worry about the duplicate content ./ doorway page issue.

Personally I have found you can stuff duplicate keywords a small amount...

Just remember the old saying ito keep one out of serious trouble. Pigs eat well, big pigs get slaughtered (so you can be a small pig)

Just be careful and you can use it .... My recommendation is if it is a shorter title (less then 8 words then no more then 2 times) if it is a medium sized title tag 9-15 words 3 times. If it is a large title tag upto 25 words 5 times....

How's that? just a ballpark a little piggy but not enough to get the axe for stuffing your self.....

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With respects to keyword "stuffing," one needs to make the distinction between the Title tag and the Keywords meta-tag.

"Stuffing" the former is unnecessary and ill advised. As the latter comprises a plurality of phrases, as opposed to words, avoiding word duplication is both illogical and unnecessary.
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Sorry, I cannot help myself:

"Badges? Badges?! We don't need no steenkin' badges!"

But looking over your original frequency of word:

"Name Badges, Corporate Bades, Enamelled, Pin, Identity, Classic Badges"

For a page title, I don't see this as being too much of a problem as far as stuffing is concerned, except maybe remove 'classic' and replace it with 'vintage' (if that's what you mean... i think more people would search 'vintage' than 'classic') and switch it with "Enamelled" (well, "Enameled" if you want it spelled correctly) or "Identity" so it reads:

"Name Badges, Corporate Badges, Pin, Identity, Vintage, Enameled Badges"

or

"Name Badges, Corporate Badges, Pin, Enameled, Vintage, Identity Badges"

so that the phrase "Enameled Badges" or "Identity Badges" might get a bit more weight.

I would guess any more frequent use of 'Badges' would be considered stuffing.


OR to use phrases and terms that *I* think people would tend to use in search...

"Corporate Badges, Name Tags, Vintage Badges, Enameled Pins, Security Badges"


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My ecard sites rank well in page1 for most keywords. I always keep Keyword density between 7% to 12%. More than 15% is considered as spam by search engines. Also, less than 7% does not helps much.
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I think using the keyword more than once in title is OK as long as it makes sense. Repeatig the keyword again in again hasno point of course. However I do not see any fault in using the keyword more than once if it flows and has a logical meaning. Just like the heading or title of an article can have a word repeated without sounding illogical all the time.
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My ecard sites rank well in page1 for most keywords. I always keep Keyword density between 7% to 12%. More than 15% is considered as spam by search engines. Also, less than 7% does not helps much.
1) What has this to do with Titles?

2) What is the basis for the stated lower/upper acceptable bounds?
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So, I want to include severla search engine keywords in my page title but there is the word "badges" in pretty much every one. I'm wondering if I can remove the words badges from some of them and the search engines will still see the page as relevant. Here is how it is currently:

"Name Badges, Corporate Bades, Enamelled, Pin, Identity, Classic Badges"

I'm wondering if I can get away with one use of "badges" to save room for other keywords or should it be in every search engine term. It would be good to get everyone's opinion on how often a word should appear in a page title.
If your keyword accompanies other word(related to your site) then you dont have to worry, i suggest you that first have a keyword research on all of your keywords.This may help you out.
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