Redirecting from entry page

[nickoran]

Ok, I have a website that is broken up into 3 geographic regions (america, europe, asia), the main default page simply redirects people based on thier ip adress to the relevant area page, which is in a subfolder. (this actually loads as the main page, just slight differences for each area)
In google when you do a search for a keyword, it just says the domain name, no subfolder, but does obviously load the correct page. The metadata description however always comes from the americas page, even when searching in the UK.
I have one 2 word phrase i want this site to rank for, whats the best way of going about this?

[Ace]

If you really wants Good Google Ranking then create multiple websites according to their country extensions. for example yourwebsite.co.uk, yourwebsite.com, yourwebsite.com.au etc

[Ace]

Originally Posted by nickoran

I have one 2 word phrase i want this site to rank for, whats the best way of going about this?

Can you show us your website and with which keyword you want to rank ?

[nickoran]

Originally Posted by Ace

Can you show us your website and with which keyword you want to rank ?

PM'd it to you

[SouthamptonAngel]

Could you not create 3 complete versions of the main page? Or am I not understanding the problem?

[nickoran]

Originally Posted by SouthamptonAngel

Could you not create 3 complete versions of the main page? Or am I not understanding the problem?

no, i certainly could, but would it make any difference? its only small gramatical differences and all three versions load as the main page on a .com

[morestar]

You might want to get/create a link to the site in question with the keywords you're hoping that page to rank for in the anchor text.

You can create an article at any free article directory with those keywords in your link text, back to your site, or make a post about your services to one of the many free classifieds sites, again with your keywords in your link text, linked back to the page in question...

If you do this for a little while, you should get the page you want to rank for those keywords to rank above the American version...

[ncseo]

you'll more than likely rank a lot better by doing these 2 things


it would be better to create separate domains with the respective country's tld

AND

to host it in the region


Same thing with backlinks...try to get more backlinks with the country's TLD


You can also go to WMT and indicate the country for the domain

[z28com]

I am serving things now based on IP address. I bought the database of about 123,000 records that has all of the IP ranges around the world. It's working out very nice.

Since I cannot do business in certain countries, I have put code on that page to serve Google ads in places of the forms I was collecting email addresses and what not. It wouldn't be much different that doing a PHP re-direct based on the country. You'd have to make a list of all of the countries you want going to a certain page and make a routine for it.

Do you already have the database for all of the IP's? I am using the IP2Location place.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by nickoran

In google when you do a search for a keyword, it just says the domain name, no subfolder, but does obviously load the correct page. The metadata description however always comes from the americas page, even when searching in the UK.

Google's SERPs derive from their indices. When your site was indexed, the meta data was extracted from the first page that a visitor would encounter, not any refreshed version. When a search is performed, they do not refresh the displayed data on the fly based on the user's geo-location.

If you want to have different data displayed in the SERPs, based on geo-location, you will need to have each version separately indexed, which requires that each be a separate site.

[microtekblue]

You can try to use sub domains so that Google treats each as a different site. Right now your home page is one site with 3 sub folders. That is why your home page is only ranking for the American site content.

Your redirect only happens when the user is on the home page. So the bot doesn't treat your sub folder content as your home page folder content.

A sub domain here would be something like mysite.com uk.mysite.com whatever.mysite.com. Each are different sites in terms of search engines eyes.

[deepsand]

Originally Posted by microtekblue

You can try to use sub domains so that Google treats each as a different site..

Google no longer distinguishes between sub-domains and folders, but treats the former as if they were the latter.

[microtekblue]

Well not exactly. Only If you are putting content in a sub domain that belongs in a folder on the original domain, you can have Google SEO issues or whatever.

But when you have content that basically warrants a new version or completely new site then a sub domain is what you use.

Examples can be seen with google sites such as:

maps.google.com, news.google.com video.google.com

As google is a search engine, any other related content added to google that is not a direct search issue can and usually does go on a new sub domain.

[ncseo]

not sure if that's true

you posted the link in another thread but it didn't say anything of google looking at subdomain/subfolders the same.

it said that they will not show subdomains/subfolders/domains in the same page more than 2 times


So if a keyword is Blue widgets

you will see

widgets.com
blue.widgets.com

widgets.com
widgets.com/blue

Basically, in the SERPs they are viewed the same way.....so you wont hijack the top pages with

1. widgets.com/
2. blue.widgets.com/
3. widgets.com/blue

They're all coming from the same domain

Originally Posted by deepsand

Google no longer distinguishes between sub-domains and folders, but treats the former as if they were the latter.

[deepsand]

Google formerly treated sub-domains as though they were wholly separate domains.