Static or dynamic IP address

[jfrizelle]

Hi all,

I've been reading online about the 'dangers' of not having a static IP address, but also reading other sites that claim that it doesn't matter.

My site is hosted on a shared hosting account, and I emailed their support team to ask them about this - their reply was: "Search engines do not ban anybody, if there is something wrong with a site (if it is infected with viruses, is a spamming site or whatever) then the search engine will put a warning message beside the site. Search indexes are not based on IP addresses, the search engines index the sites themselves."

Now the bit about search engines not banning anybody sounds so completely wrong that I've no confidence that the rest of the reply is correct.

Can anyone advise me one way or the other about this?

Ta,
J.

[morestar]

I may not be correct when i say that if there is one site that is being used for spamming or malware infections on an IP that your good site is on, you wouldn't have a problem nor need to worry about your site in the rankings at all.

It seems the letter you received is OK because again, I can't see the search engines banning sites from blocks of IPs. It just wouldn't work for them...

If anyone can clarify this issue please add your input as I'm not an expert in this particular field...

[claybutler]

The letter is for the most part accurate. If your site is full of malicious downloads then it will be flagged with a warning. If you break some perceived rules at Google you may be penalized to the point of disappearing in the normal SERPs, but you won't actually be banned. You could still get to it by searching on the full url. So while technically the letter may be accurate, but for practical purposes you can get "banned" by Google for certain offenses. However a re-inclusion request and proof of corrections will generally get you back in quickly.

I had a new client that had malicious code installed in the header of the index page ( it was hacked). It triggered every anti-virus software ( blocked browser from viewing it) and it was flagged with a warning in all the SE's.

I got rid of the code and filed a Google re-inclusion request. The waring was removed within 24 hours.

Can't complain about that.

As far as good sites being punished because of bad sites on a shared server I think that would be a very rare ( if ever) ocurrance. You could see the potential for abuse. Find out where your competitor's are hosted then host malicious spammy sites on same server.

[weegillis]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time your IP address would change is if the ISP moved your site to a different server. Nothing dynamic about this. As we can see, this would not keep anyone from finding your site, since the namespace would still be the same.

[morestar]

I think the OP jfrizelle, when speaking of his IP changing was a bit confused about your home IP changing (being dynamic) or NOT changing as some ISP IPs don't change like Bell (in canada)...

Out here, if one is using cable internet as opposed to phone line (bell) internet, their IP changes each time they log on...

[SemAdvance]

I think the OP is confusing Web hosting with an ISP.

Webhost IPs are static.

A dynamic IP is usually related to DSL / ADSL high speed internet.

Cable Internet ISP are usually static IP

[jfrizelle]

Sorry, I phrased it all wrong... it's Shared vs Dedicated IP addresses that I'm wondering about. I want to check whether a site that is on the same IP address as mine can adversely affect my site - if the other site gets banned from a search engine for whatever reason, will it matter that my site is using the same IP address.

I guess if the search engines ban sites by domain name rather than IP address, then sharing an IP address doesn't matter?

Many thanks, sorry for causing confusion!

[morestar]

Originally Posted by SemAdvance

Cable Internet ISP are usually static IP

Up here in Canada (where we build and sell igloos) cable internet provider rogers and cogeco cable offer high speed cable internet and our IPs are dynamic...just as a headsup!

[webmax]

There's been a lot said about if your site gets somehow "contaminated" by questionable sites hosted on the same IP. I've read lots of opinions on both sides, but I've actually done some experiments.

Site A was hosted in a place where it had its own dedicated IP. Since that was too expensive, it got moved over to a grittier neighborhood where there was a shared IP. No design or content changes were made to the site. It lost rankings, even though I moved it "by the book", with no down time.

So I tried the opposite, moving Site B from a bad neighborhood over to Beverly Hills - and it got noticed by the SEs. I did make some changes on it, though.

Sites C, D, E, F, and G belong to the same holding company and are all related. They share a dedicated, "virgin" IP among themselves, which is about 10 years old. Whatever I do on them shoots their rankings upwards.

[deepsand]

There is nothing about either that makes one inherently better or worse than the other.

Rather, it is the case that one should avoid an IP Address block that is known to be favored by various types of miscreants, so as to not find ones site inadvertently included on a blacklist.

This means that one should focus on the characteristics of the party providing hosting service.

[shakir]

Originally Posted by jfrizelle

Hi all,

I've been reading online about the 'dangers' of not having a static IP address, but also reading other sites that claim that it doesn't matter.

My site is hosted on a shared hosting account, and I emailed their support team to ask them about this - their reply was: "Search engines do not ban anybody, if there is something wrong with a site (if it is infected with viruses, is a spamming site or whatever) then the search engine will put a warning message beside the site. Search indexes are not based on IP addresses, the search engines index the sites themselves."

Now the bit about search engines not banning anybody sounds so completely wrong that I've no confidence that the rest of the reply is correct.

Can anyone advise me one way or the other about this?

Ta,
J.

Almost sites are hosted in Shared hosting and from them almost are not having static IP, and they are ranking well and no penalization . Google ranking not by IP but by domain name. Changing IP even host also not effect on site ranking