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Snag it! If they didn’t want to share it, they wouldn’t have posted in on the internet. 0 0%
Check to see if there’s a copyright notice, and if not, it’s fair game! 1 3.03%
Snag it, but give credit to the author. 0 0%
Snag it, give credit to the author, and post a link back to the source. 6 18.18%
Try to contact the author, and seek permission to reprint, with credit to them. 14 42.42%
Snag just a brief snippet, give credit to the author and post a link back to the source. 12 36.36%
Copy it, change a few words to make it "original", and use it as my own work. 0 0%
Forget it, I write my own copy! 14 42.42%
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It would be one thing if this was a description for opening a can of cat food, but this is my bio and my mission statement. It's about me. Doug is not me.
You should write and post information about Doug Taylor and his Graphic Design claims. Fill up the search results with proof that he's stolen your copy.
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You should write and post information about Doug Taylor and his Graphic Design claims. Fill up the search results with proof that he's stolen your copy.
If he fails to respond properly to Clay's letter, I think that might be my response, as well.

Another thing you can do, Clay...if you use the Google Toolbar...

Sidewiki is IDEAL for this sort of thing! And a lot easier than trying to push your theft statements to the top of the SERPs.

EDIT: Never mind that. Sidewiki is disabled on that page.
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Ironically... or paradoxically the failing of the internet search paradigm.
If by the latter you refer to the notion that consensus of the masses is inherently worthy of credibility, one need only reflect on the facts that it was once "common knowledge" that the Earth was both flat and the center of the Universe.
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We can take your project from a simple thumbnail sketch or idea to a fully integrated, fully formed product.

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I can take your project from a simple thumbnail sketch or idea to a fully integrated, fully formed product.
They'll probably be sending Clay a "write your own bio" letter now.

It's all just buzz words and cliché, there are only so many ways you can mix them up and spit them out without repeating yourself (or somebody else).

Doug Taylor might have been playing smart and nicked a bit from here, a little bit from there, inverted that and stuck in a few words of his own.

I'd definitely heard "I can take your project from a simple thumbnail sketch or idea to a fully integrated, fully formed product." before, I just never knew who coined it.
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I can take your project from a simple thumbnail sketch or idea to a fully integrated, fully formed product - Google Search
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We can take your project from a simple thumbnail sketch or idea to a fully integrated, fully formed product.



They'll probably be sending Clay a "write your own bio" letter now.

It's all just buzz words and cliché, there are only so many ways you can mix them up and spit them out without repeating yourself (or somebody else).

Doug Taylor might have been playing smart and nicked a bit from here, a little bit from there, inverted that and stuck in a few words of his own.

I'd definitely heard "I can take your project from a simple thumbnail sketch or idea to a fully integrated, fully formed product." before, I just never knew who coined it.
Ya I was sort of thinking along the same lines too, there's definitely a fine line to cross...
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Well it's just not that phrase that's the problem (if you search with quotes you'll see I'm the only complete match on the web) It's that it's my bio and mission statement. I've been using it for many years and he kept the entire story arc and the branding message specifics. I've gotten numb to the "I'll just steal a little bit" people. It's when another designer knocks my bio off that I get pissed. This has been going on for a good 8 years now.

Here's some favorites from the past (the popular section to steal is my second paragraph from this page Clay Butler, Graphic Designer Bio, Illustrator Bio, Graphic Design Bio) All of them admitted to ripping me off. The common excuse was "I was short on time, your bio was great..I was going to change it later". Yeah right. You feel fine putting up a fake bio, but down the road you're going to write a really good one on your own.

One guy blamed the SEO company he hired. WTF? Besides that being highly unlikely, why would you let an SEO company write your bio? What a coward for not owning up to his own theft.

RANDY SPECKMAN at least rewrote it pretty well, so I didn't hassle him, though his storyline is the same. Matthew put a copyright notice on his...hilarious. I've noticed since I've moved my bio down on the page and changed it to first person, the level of theft has decreased. Which I think proves that thieves, besides being dishonest, are lazy. I don't have my absolute favorite rips of my bio as I didn't save them in the old days, which I regret.

Being an artist myself I'm pretty lax and give the benefit of the doubt in the creative process. It's just that in the world of graphic design my writing is uniquely my own (not just in prose but in subject matter specifics), especially my bio. I actually land jobs frequently because what I wrote on my website resonated with my client. They flat out tell me, "I really like what you had to say about such and such...so I knew you were the right designer". So for me, my words are directly translatable to wealth and success.

Very few designers put any effort into articulating their vision or crafting a coherent message. I've spent countless hours crafting my message and it reflects my specific point of view. It's pretty obvious when I'm being ripped. That's when I get pissed.

Here's some bio rips:
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Pinckney Designs

They can take your project from a simple thumbnail
sketch or idea to a fully intergrated, fully formed
product. This provides their clients the assurance and
peace of mind that no matter what unexpected
changes occur, or which direction their project might
take, Pinckney Designs will have the experience and
skills to see them through and deliver their project
on time and on spec.

Creativity, adaptability, punctuality and speed
informed with a solid foundation in the classic arts.
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Hai I am Vinod Cyriac.

Long before computers became a viable tool for visual and
graphical communications, I was practicing the
fundamentals of arts such as pencil drawing, skteches and color
theory. All were stressed along with developing a
proficiency with such tools of the trade as ink, pen,
pencil, paint and brush. Along the way I also developed
an interest in action movies and cartoon animation.

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RANDY SPECKMAN
1075 Shadowridge Drive #62, Vista, California 92081
760.224.0692 | rs@randyspeckman.com

Traditional Artist Adapts to the Digital Age

I excelled in all art classes learning the basics such as anatomy, life
drawing, perspective, color theory and layout. I became a master with
many artist's tools such as pencil, pen, ink and brush. At age 17, I won first
prize in a drawing contest that included artwork submitted from most high
schools in the state of California. My project was selected from more than
5,000 entries to be sent to an art museum in Russia as part of an art
exchange.

Today's artist must now adapt to a keyboard, mouse and screen in order to
produce high quality, industry specific, commercial artwork. Although my
computer is powerful and contains software programs such as Photoshop
and Illustrator, the computer and programs themselves are worthless unless
utilized properly in the hands of an experienced artist. With a background in
classic arts combined with my experience on a computer, I can take projects
from a concept or simple thumbnail sketch and turn them into fully integrated,
commercial ready, complete products.

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Matthew Goldfinger Copyright 2006

Long before computers became a viable tool for visual and graphical communications, Matthew Goldfinger was hard at work mastering the basics. Fundamentals such as anatomy, life drawing, perspective, fontography, color theory and layout were stressed along with developing a proficiency with such tools of the trade as ink, pen, pencil, paint and brush. Along the way Matthew also developed an interest and expertise in photography, writing, animation, web design and television
and video production.

Today, terms such as "digital" and "CGI" are thrown around and as if they are an ends to themselves, rather than just a means to a creative solution. A computer, as well as software programs such as Photoshop or Illustrator, are fundamentally no different than a paper and pen. They are ALL tools, and as such have no intrinsic ability to create anything themselves except in the hands of an experienced artist.

With a solid foundation in the classic arts supporting his career in digital content creation, Matthew can take your project from a simple thumbnail sketch or idea to a fully intergrated, fully formed product. This provides his clients the assurance and peace of mind that no matter what unexpected changes occur, or which direction or medium their project might take, Matthew will have the experience and skills to see them through and deliver their project on time and on spec.

---------------------------------

Damien Switzer

Old School Training Meets the Digital Age

Long before computers became a viable tool for visual and graphical communications, I was hard at work mastering the basics. Fundamentals such as anatomy, life drawing, perspective, fontography, color theory, and layout were stressed along with developing a proficiency with such tools of the trade as ink, pen, pencil, paint and brush. Along the way I also developed an interest and expertise in animation, web design and graphic design.

A computer, as well as software programs such as Photoshop or Illustrator, are fundamentally no different than a paper and pen. They are ALL tools, and as such have no intrinsic ability to create anything themselves except in the hands of an experienced artist.

With a solid foundation in the classic arts supporting my career in digital content creation, I can take your project from a simple thumbnail sketch or idea to a fully integrated, fully formed product. This provides my clients the assurance and peace of mind that no matter what unexpected changes occur, or which direction or medium their project might take, I will have the experience and skills to see them through and deliver their project on time, on spec at surprisingly affordabe prices.
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I think I know where you're coming from, Clay. It would seem to me that while it's bad enough to have someone steal your creative works and present them as their own, when they steal your bio, and present themselves essentially as you, it gets REALLY personal!

For instance: No photog wants to see his original shots stolen, but to see their own face staring back at them, because someone had stolen their profile pic would be especially infuriating, I imagine.
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Yeah, good analogy Doc. It is my "picture", just in words.

I've had two wedding photographer clients who had their images stolen by another wedding photographer. He put them right in his portfolio!

You see stuff like that and you are just awestruck of their audacity.
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Unfortunately, for many there is no audacity involved, as they are so terribly clueless as to be wholly unaware of their offense.
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How true that is. Double frowny faces and a crying one for good measure :'-(
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Personally, I'd like to see some harsh punishments enacted for piracy, copyright and patent infringement. Unfortunately, in a global market, it wouldn't mean much, but right here in River City....
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I found some images the other day. at buyhardparts.com

he said, Quote
"If you are concerned about a graphic image we “took” from you site that
is something I wasn’t aware. If you tell us which one you are owner of we
will be happy to remove it.

In this link you can find 17,000,000 images nobody will claim of classic
cars

Google Images
q=classic%20cars%20images&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

and when they want to have property on them they will have a copy protection
which I suppose you don’t have.
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They simply google for the images
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