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04-03-2004, 10:32 AM
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what is the best option to replace linksmanager
i need to replace linksmanager what would be mu best
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i need to manage my links and cheak for reciprocation.
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04-03-2004, 10:37 AM
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i would say forget linksmanager.
why pay if you could get the same service for free.
try link swapper it is a new free service with very cleanand simple design.
the address is:
http://www.link-swapper.com
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04-06-2004, 02:07 PM
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thank you for the lead i will
give it a try, do you know if there is an option
to cheak if the link is reciprocating?
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04-06-2004, 05:42 PM
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Don't use any software or scripts ... if you have that many links that need manageing and checking for reciprocation, you are obviously involved in link exchanges for the purposes of manipulating the rankings and not linking for the benefit of your user.
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04-08-2004, 01:17 PM
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thanks cbp
but i am not talking about a tool to add links
in the purposes of manipulating the rankings and not linking for the benefit of your user.
i was talking about a tool that loads links to your site and give the option for visitors to ad their links. you can screen what links are good
if you wish.
so i have to disagree
As i see it a tool is just a tool. what you do with it and for what you use it is another story
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04-16-2004, 08:06 PM
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used this program for a week now.
really is a good tool
thanks for the lead
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04-17-2004, 03:25 PM
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Why would you advise so cbp? I see many top rated sites with a 1000 or more links. I'm just talking e-commerce sites and not the guys with "deep pockets" either. They must use something to manage all the links.
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04-17-2004, 07:01 PM
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Have you noticed how many sites using linksmanager have been dropped in G lately?
Google and Yahoo have got very sophisticated in links analysis and I would have absolutly nothing on my sites that would indicate I am participating in any sort of link exchange.
See this thread:
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=17562
Especially the quote from Yahoo I copied:
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Here is an interesting comment made by Yahoo_Mike over at WMW:
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No, Sites are not demoted based upon incoming links. The only exception is if a site is part of a reciprocal link system / link farm that only provide inlinks if the site has corresponding outlinks
This interesting:
The only exception is if a site is part of a reciprocal link system
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GG has made similar references to link exchanges over at WMW.
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04-18-2004, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cbp
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Why would you advise so cbp?
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Have you noticed how many sites using linksmanager have been dropped in G lately?
Google and Yahoo have got very sophisticated in links analysis and I would have absolutly nothing on my sites that would indicate I am participating in any sort of link exchange.
See this thread:
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=17562
Especially the quote from Yahoo I copied:
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Here is an interesting comment made by Yahoo_Mike over at WMW:
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No, Sites are not demoted based upon incoming links. The only exception is if a site is part of a reciprocal link system / link farm that only provide inlinks if the site has corresponding outlinks
This interesting:
The only exception is if a site is part of a reciprocal link system
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GG has made similar references to link exchanges over at WMW.
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This isn't exactly accurately and while GoogleGuy states numerous times that "link swapping schemes don't work" the key word there is "schemes"... which doesn't apply to all forms simply the ones commented on specifically.
DMOZ as an example is a link exchange program of sorts with 3 parts:
1. listings without recip,
2. banners for linking to top hierarchical categories, and
3. RDF dumps and data population
without parts 2 and 3 DMOZ itself would be as beneficial as it is, but is it a natural link sharing system nonetheless and in principle this form of doe work.
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04-19-2004, 10:15 AM
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did you ever notice that people who sell seo services are always the ones who say linksmanager is bad nad never people who use the software
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04-19-2004, 01:10 PM
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well i used it so i know it very well
and still decided to drop it.
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04-19-2004, 03:03 PM
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Re: what is the best option to replace linksmanager
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Originally Posted by thunder
i need to replace linksmanager what would be mu best
option.
i need to manage my links and cheak for reciprocation.
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I use Arelis.
http://www.axandra.com/index.htm
Good luck.
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04-19-2004, 04:02 PM
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thunder,
what did you think was wrong with it?
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04-20-2004, 12:32 PM
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hi ferret77
i will answer your Q
a) the price
b) some applications like the link checker and the
import link option dont work well.
the link checker gave me false information and
actually caused me to drop sites that where really
reciprocating. you can imagine how happy those sites
where to exchange links with me in the future.
c)to many rules on what i can or cant do wtth managing my links. not that i did something wrong just dont like someone telling me how to manage my
site and threatening to drop all my links.
i have more if you want
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04-21-2004, 08:36 AM
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I use it on a couple sites
and I have the same problems with it
with it screwing up the link checking
I have been debating ditching it , becasue I think once you request link trades wiht all the sites you want, it doens't have as much value or purpose
although its pretty nice to be able to login and just trade link when ever i have free time at work
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04-22-2004, 10:59 AM
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well i ditched them two weeks ago and moved
to Link Swapper.
i get the same service only it is for free.
what relly broke my back with linksmanager was
that everytime they wanted something they
immediatly froze my links.
It took me months to build those links, how do they
dare to do that, those links were my property.
I will never work with them again.
I suggest you ditch them and save your money
angry is an understatement to what i feel
towords them
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04-22-2004, 08:13 PM
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with it screwing up the link checking
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I have recently cheked out the robots.txt file on a couple of site and they appear to be disallowing the linksmanager bot - could that be the reason for this?
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04-22-2004, 08:16 PM
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i have no idea but sometimes its says it can't find the link but its there
sometimes its blocked
maybe some people don't like it cruising around its site
I'm not sure how much bandwidth it uses
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04-24-2004, 12:58 PM
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another thing about links manager is that
it is being ignored by google as it seems from the last backlink update
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04-24-2004, 01:39 PM
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oh no,
thunder you are one of those viral marketers ?
working for linkswapper?
I was just debating you or one of your co-workers on another forum
first off linksmager has never frozen my links
even when my credit card was lost and i put a hold on it, they got declined payment and still gave me access to everything
secondly i have 6 to 7 backlinks from linkpartner directories on one of my sites so pretty much that is an out right lie
all the sudden all these poeple appear on seo fourms
and they have like 5 posts and every one of their post is about how great linkswapper is and how everyone should ditch linksmanger.
Its pretty transparent I think
I mean its cool to go out and market a product but marketing it by making up lies is sort of "unethical" I think it is called
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04-25-2004, 09:30 AM
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my bad
actually almost everything in that thread is a lie
and if you had used linksmamager you would know that
you cannot send emails to anyone who hasn't joined linkpartners.com
its impossible, it entirely opt in
the bot part might be true , but ohter then then that,
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05-12-2004, 01:50 PM
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maybe, does not really bother me that em
thing. as I said above I had totaly different problems with it
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11-25-2004, 11:30 AM
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Link Swapper is well known at the forums and I use it on few of my sites. I am too lazy to add it to all of them so i guess i will continue to pay
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11-30-2004, 11:09 AM
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if it fits...
It seems some people just have different expectations perhaps or simply different requirements...
I have used linksmanager for about 6 months, my links continue to grow with google and my site is no1 for approximately 99 different keyphrases with the engines.
I also missed a payment with them and my links still worked so until i see bad major drops in rankings then i will presume they are a viable solution to basically SAVING TIME! that is all it is about really, so long as it is not a linkfarm which this site obviously isnt..
I am still selective, I may be off topic to a degree but I will still not swap with badly spammed or sites using tricks, that part is still common sense..
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12-01-2004, 04:54 PM
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Don't use any software or scripts ... cbp
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Good advice. IMO, automating anything is less effective (and less safe) for the long haul than doing it by hand where the search engines are concerned. That applies double when it comes to linking strategies.
A respectable chunk of my business involves helping webmasters get themselves out of a ZEUS or LinksManager induced mess. Some posters on this forum will disagree, and that's fine. It's good for business.
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