what is the best option to replace linksmanager

[thunder]

i need to replace linksmanager what would be mu best
option.
i need to manage my links and cheak for reciprocation.

[rain]

i would say forget linksmanager.

why pay if you could get the same service for free.
try link swapper it is a new free service with very cleanand simple design.

the address is:

http://www.link-swapper.com

[thunder]

thank you for the lead i will

give it a try, do you know if there is an option
to cheak if the link is reciprocating?

[cbp]

Don't use any software or scripts ... if you have that many links that need manageing and checking for reciprocation, you are obviously involved in link exchanges for the purposes of manipulating the rankings and not linking for the benefit of your user.

CBP

[thunder]

thanks cbp

but i am not talking about a tool to add links
in the purposes of manipulating the rankings and not linking for the benefit of your user.
i was talking about a tool that loads links to your site and give the option for visitors to ad their links. you can screen what links are good
if you wish.
so i have to disagree

As i see it a tool is just a tool. what you do with it and for what you use it is another story

[thunder]

used this program for a week now.
really is a good tool
thanks for the lead

[cz]

Why would you advise so cbp? I see many top rated sites with a 1000 or more links. I'm just talking e-commerce sites and not the guys with "deep pockets" either. They must use something to manage all the links.

[cbp]

Why would you advise so cbp?

Have you noticed how many sites using linksmanager have been dropped in G lately?

Google and Yahoo have got very sophisticated in links analysis and I would have absolutly nothing on my sites that would indicate I am participating in any sort of link exchange.

See this thread:
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=17562

Especially the quote from Yahoo I copied:

Here is an interesting comment made by Yahoo_Mike over at WMW:
Quote:
No, Sites are not demoted based upon incoming links. The only exception is if a site is part of a reciprocal link system / link farm that only provide inlinks if the site has corresponding outlinks


This interesting:
The only exception is if a site is part of a reciprocal link system

GG has made similar references to link exchanges over at WMW.

CBP

[fathom]

Originally Posted by cbp

Have you noticed how many sites using linksmanager have been dropped in G lately?

Google and Yahoo have got very sophisticated in links analysis and I would have absolutly nothing on my sites that would indicate I am participating in any sort of link exchange.

See this thread:
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=17562

Especially the quote from Yahoo I copied:

GG has made similar references to link exchanges over at WMW.

CBP

This isn't exactly accurately and while GoogleGuy states numerous times that "link swapping schemes don't work" the key word there is "schemes"... which doesn't apply to all forms simply the ones commented on specifically.

DMOZ as an example is a link exchange program of sorts with 3 parts:

1. listings without recip,

2. banners for linking to top hierarchical categories, and

3. RDF dumps and data population

without parts 2 and 3 DMOZ itself would be as beneficial as it is, but is it a natural link sharing system nonetheless and in principle this form of doe work.

[ferret77]

did you ever notice that people who sell seo services are always the ones who say linksmanager is bad nad never people who use the software

[thunder]

well i used it so i know it very well
and still decided to drop it.

[syc]

Originally Posted by thunder

i need to replace linksmanager what would be mu best
option.
i need to manage my links and cheak for reciprocation.

I use Arelis.

http://www.axandra.com/index.htm

Good luck.

[ferret77]

thunder,

what did you think was wrong with it?

[thunder]

hi ferret77

i will answer your Q

a) the price

b) some applications like the link checker and the
import link option dont work well.
the link checker gave me false information and
actually caused me to drop sites that where really
reciprocating. you can imagine how happy those sites
where to exchange links with me in the future.

c)to many rules on what i can or cant do wtth managing my links. not that i did something wrong just dont like someone telling me how to manage my
site and threatening to drop all my links.

i have more if you want

[ferret77]

I use it on a couple sites

and I have the same problems with it

with it screwing up the link checking

I have been debating ditching it , becasue I think once you request link trades wiht all the sites you want, it doens't have as much value or purpose

although its pretty nice to be able to login and just trade link when ever i have free time at work

[thunder]

well i ditched them two weeks ago and moved
to Link Swapper.
i get the same service only it is for free.

what relly broke my back with linksmanager was
that everytime they wanted something they
immediatly froze my links.
It took me months to build those links, how do they
dare to do that, those links were my property.
I will never work with them again.

I suggest you ditch them and save your money
angry is an understatement to what i feel
towords them

[cbp]

ferret77:

with it screwing up the link checking

I have recently cheked out the robots.txt file on a couple of site and they appear to be disallowing the linksmanager bot - could that be the reason for this?

CBP

[ferret77]

i have no idea but sometimes its says it can't find the link but its there

sometimes its blocked

maybe some people don't like it cruising around its site

I'm not sure how much bandwidth it uses

[thunder]

another thing about links manager is that
it is being ignored by google as it seems from the last backlink update

[ferret77]

oh no,

thunder you are one of those viral marketers ?

working for linkswapper?

I was just debating you or one of your co-workers on another forum

first off linksmager has never frozen my links

even when my credit card was lost and i put a hold on it, they got declined payment and still gave me access to everything

secondly i have 6 to 7 backlinks from linkpartner directories on one of my sites so pretty much that is an out right lie

all the sudden all these poeple appear on seo fourms

and they have like 5 posts and every one of their post is about how great linkswapper is and how everyone should ditch linksmanger.

Its pretty transparent I think

I mean its cool to go out and market a product but marketing it by making up lies is sort of "unethical" I think it is called

[thunder]

have no stocks in any site
read about the backlinks in
webmasterworld, rather a long
thread

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/22971.htm

[ferret77]

my bad


actually almost everything in that thread is a lie

and if you had used linksmamager you would know that

you cannot send emails to anyone who hasn't joined linkpartners.com

its impossible, it entirely opt in

the bot part might be true , but ohter then then that,

[thunder]

maybe, does not really bother me that em
thing. as I said above I had totaly different problems with it

[orin]

Link Swapper is well known at the forums and I use it on few of my sites. I am too lazy to add it to all of them so i guess i will continue to pay

[oneofthe3lions]

It seems some people just have different expectations perhaps or simply different requirements...
I have used linksmanager for about 6 months, my links continue to grow with google and my site is no1 for approximately 99 different keyphrases with the engines.
I also missed a payment with them and my links still worked so until i see bad major drops in rankings then i will presume they are a viable solution to basically SAVING TIME! that is all it is about really, so long as it is not a linkfarm which this site obviously isnt..
I am still selective, I may be off topic to a degree but I will still not swap with badly spammed or sites using tricks, that part is still common sense..

[rlrouse]

Don't use any software or scripts ... cbp

Good advice. IMO, automating anything is less effective (and less safe) for the long haul than doing it by hand where the search engines are concerned. That applies double when it comes to linking strategies.

A respectable chunk of my business involves helping webmasters get themselves out of a ZEUS or LinksManager induced mess. Some posters on this forum will disagree, and that's fine. It's good for business.

[crankydave]

Good advice. IMO, automating anything is less effective (and less safe) for the long haul than doing it by hand where the search engines are concerned. That applies double when it comes to linking strategies.

Couldn't agree more. Take the time to build your links and link pages by hand. It will pay off in the long run.

Dave

[ctabuk]

Originally Posted by crankydave

Couldn't agree more. Take the time to build your links and link pages by hand. It will pay off in the long run.

Dave

Best advice going, but will they listen?
I was told I was daft in another forum) for using www.gotop.com I paid them $30 and as regular as clockwork they send me the type of sites my clients would and do enjoy, it's worked out ok for me.

[Larke]

I use LinkMachine

It allows me to not only find other sites that I might like to link to, but personalize email to request a link exchange to those sites. You basically have to hand pick what is found when you search for potential reciprocal link sites, but the rest is simple point and click. You can also add sites by hand. Of course it includes submit your own site features also.

It is a major time saver for me. The price is reasonable and worth it. Support is very good.

I use it here: http://cattery-index.com/links/

[thunder]

thanks Lark but I already found my free tool. I have managed to use it on all my sites by now.

[orin]

hi oneofthe3lions
hi much are you paying a year ?

[collusion]

You will be surprised as to how much Google is vulnerible to spammy sites. I recently did my own experiment with them and I tried every spammy thing in the book but 21st century-like. I wanted to see if they were the relevant search engine that they claim to be. The truth is, and I have said it before, is that Google is easily manipulated. I have gotten Cloaked sites ranked for hard to get keywords, Sites that are made up primarily of SmartPages that redirect to the actual site and so on. I will not post any links to these sites on here because I sorta enjoy the "benefits" of those ranks but believe me they are not "mighty" as they claim.

As per my post in another forum I will give you the "not so secret" of how to get ranked in Google without spamming and without IBL's. Simply type in your keyword, look at the top 10 sites listed in Google (or any other search engine) and find out what makes these sites similar. Once you find out the little things here and there about each site you will be able to duplicate it for your own site. It works 100% of the time. I have done it with sites with very few but bad quality IBL's and I simply "optimized" it according to what I find in the top 10 and guess what.. 2 days later my site is ranked right there with them.

The thing about it is, Google can change their Algorithm all they want but it is VERY easy to figure out what their algorithm is immediately.

Keep this in mind because IBL's have been discounted by the search engines because they know for a fact that people buy IBL's. If you were a search engine would you make these kinds of tactics relevant? Common sense will dictate that if it seems like the right thing for a SE to do it probably already has. These are business minded people that keep their eye on the main focus which is to keep results relevant. In Google's case they have actually discounted very relevant sites in order to change their algo. My job is to not follow their rules but to find a way for them to follow mine.