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Old 03-29-2009, 10:18 AM
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Default Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

Let's say someone linked to my site with the following url:
http:// www . example .com.
Do you think that link will improve the ranking of my https url:
https:// www . example .com

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Old 03-30-2009, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

Google treats each unique url as a separate page. This is why you need to setup redirects for when people do not include www in your url. You should also setup a direct to prevent duplicate content issues with your secure https server.
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

Yes i agreed with "Jeremy80" http and https are not the same urls definitely Google treats them as different, because they are different things.
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

Http is commonly used to access html pages, but other resources can be utilized as well through http. In many cases, clients may be exchanging confidential information with a server, which needs to be secured in order to prevent unauthorized access. For this reason, https, or secure http, was developed by Netscape corporation to allow authorization and secured transactions.

There are some primary differences between http and https, however, beginning with the default port, which is 80 for http and 443 for https. Https works by transmitting normal http interactions through an encrypted system, so that in theory, the information cannot be accessed by any party other than the client and end server. There are two common types of encryption layers: Transport Layer Security (TLS) and Secure Sockets Layer (SSL), both of which encode the data records being exchanged.
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You should probably exclude robots from visiting https files using your robots.txt file
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

No! For google they are different URls.
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

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Do you say that Google can't read https URLs?
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

They are different URL's in the eyes of Google.

Matt Cuts said in one video that we should use rel cannonical to show which version (http or https) of a file we prefer. This is one of the best use of rel cannonical out there.
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

Yup, link to the "http://" URL.

Sending spiders through "https://" may cause problems for you. I've seen lots of server timeouts which cause crawl errors when the spider requests the secure page and it fails to load in a timely fashion (spiders are notoriously impatient).

Server timeouts and crawl errors prevent the spider from indexing the page. In terms of SEO, next to having your site banned or penalized, it's about the worst thing that can happen.
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

no, in google's view. they are not the same urls. good luck.
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

Thanks for your answers.
Now, I'll never link to https url to improve ranking.
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"Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs" absolutely not the same because https is design for security reasons not for the public.



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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

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Google treats each unique url as a separate page. This is why you need to setup redirects for when people do not include www in your url. You should also setup a direct to prevent duplicate content issues with your secure https server.
very well said jeremy! in google, https URLs are different from http URLs. so if you want those two urls both ranked in search engines, you have to link build those differently too. but i think you don't have to link build the https url because most urls are for security reason. most are used on a page with sign ups or something that sends information to other page (according to my understanding about https on wikipedia. correct me if im wrong).
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Do you say that Google can't read https URLs?
No, he didn't write this.
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You should probably exclude robots from visiting https files using your robots.txt file

Now there's an idea I'd not thought of...
makes sense!

anything https you probably don't want people searching through unless they either are going to pay you or you have a membership site where they already paid you.
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http and https or even a site with www.doman.com and domain.com are treated differently by search engines that's why there is a 301 redirection to avoid your site being penalize by google as duplicate content.
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Default Re: Anybody know if http and https are the same URLs

https, is also known as secure http, which allows authorization and secured transactions.While browsing the net you might have come across terms such as"You are about to view pages over a secure connection". These messages come across only in https urls.These are beneficial for sites for security purposes,but not in the eyes of search engines.In some cases where one of your inner pages uses a https protocol,then in that case you can exclude it from indexing using the robots.txt file in the root folder for that webpage url.
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