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Old 03-22-2004, 09:17 PM
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Default Yahoo vs Google - Does Google filter towards AdWords?

G'Day

After changing a website [ http://durand.com.au ] from frames and optimising the index page for various search terms, primarily (1) water filters, (2) water filter, & (3) water filter systems, I have sat back to watch.

This is an Australian site mainly marketing stoneware water filters which are difficult to freight overseas, so I limited my search parameters to "Australian Pages"

Here are the results
(1) - water filters
Google - http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...cr%3DcountryAU

Yahoo - http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wat...AU&x=wrt&all=0


(2) - water filter
Google - http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...cr%3DcountryAU

Yahoo - http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wat...AU&x=wrt&all=0


(3) - water filter systems
Google - http://www.google.com.au/search?q=wa...8&start=0&sa=N

Yahoo - http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=wat...AU&x=wrt&all=0


For each of the search terms Yahoo [local] is returning good results [even a no.1], and Google [local] is returning nothing [in the top 50 at least]. Google also seems to be returning a lot of results that could be considered spurious and even off the subject.

For Google this is a set of very competative search terms as you can tell from the number of sponsored results, ie AdWords.

I am wondering if these results from Google are being delivered in a deliberate attempt to push the user towards the AdWords results. I have read previous posts and discussions regarding this, but it is only now that Yahoo is no longer using Google results that a true comparison can be drawn.

So my question is simply have I done something in my coding that Yahoo likes and Google hates, or is Google weighting results to push the use of AdWords ????

Has anyone else found this to be happening ???

Has Yahoo started to win the search engine wars already just by returning relevant results ???

Cheers ... from Downunder
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Old 03-22-2004, 10:39 PM
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Google will never intentionally create and stick with crappy search results to sell ads. If they have bad search results people will stop using them, they will stop selling ads, and they will go bankrupt.
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:32 AM
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HI David
From your perspective the Google results may look spammy, but there may be other perspectives.

If for instance I am an individual in Australia who wants to know more about water filters and the need to use them, and type in the words water filters, the current #1 ranking site gives a good and unbiased answer to my question, and thus is IMO an excellent result.

The term water filters is quite a generic term, and so I suppose that someone selling ceramic water filters might be better off using more specific terms like ceramic water filters or even buy water filters, in order to sell his product on the web.

Google has stated many time, and it has been verified by users here many times, that the use of AdWords or AdSense has no effect on the generic rankings at all.
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Old 03-23-2004, 06:49 AM
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Google has stated many time, and it has been verified by users here many times, that the use of AdWords or AdSense has no effect on the generic rankings at all.
Mel - you might want to come over to this thread and help me out with that statement :-)
http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=16319

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