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Old 03-10-2004, 01:31 AM
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Default No show in google

Help!

Would someone please go to my index pages (and a few others if you have a bit o time) and tell me if there is anything glaringly obvious as to why google does not give me a good ranking?

Of note:
-Our website has been active for about 9 months.
-I have submitted manually to google and other sites.
-I have added appropriate meta-tags I believe (can you confirm?)
-I do not have back links that I know of, but am looking into getting some of these now.
-We are adding a page of "useful information" shortly which will be valuable info users of our products, in text.

Thanks!
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Old 03-10-2004, 02:49 AM
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HI Mazzy:

Congratulations you have a very nice looking site (IMO)

Your server seems to be set up OK, Your page spieders fine and there are not robots.txt problems since you do not have one.

You have 6 pages in the Google index, but I can find no linking pages to your site either in Google or in Alltheweb ( where you have no pages indexed), which is confirmed by a PR0 on your home page.

You have 2 pages in MSN but no links reported.

You have no pages in the Yahoo index and no links reported.

Two things stand out.

First you seem to have no external links to your site which is the primary way search engines find, index and also are a factor in the ranking of your site. Google does have you in their index so they must have found a link somewhere or your pages would not be there.

I would suggest that you add your site to regional and industry directories, get links from your suppliers websites, get links from local organizations like the BBB, Chamber of commerce and town and regional directories. Once you have built up some pagerank, set up a program to trade links with other websites.

Secondly you might like to reveiw the keywords you are targeting on your site.
Your home page title is

Custom Garden and Driveway Gates Crafted from Wood and Iron which is not too bad, but puts you in competition for rankings with suppliers of gates worldwide. You might want to do some key word searches at Wordtracker to see what regional phrases are popular, and target them. Depending on your trading area this could range from something like custom garden gates Salem to something like custom garden gates Oregon.

This will not only attract local buyers but such terms are generally easier to rank on.

Hope this helps, if you need more info just ask.
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:26 AM
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Hi Mazzy

Big things I notice is very little text on pages and no PR.

You will get PR from other site pages and directoies(DMOZ) linking to you. If possible, use keywords in the anchor text that points to you. Never link to links farms and other suss sites. Don't worry who links to you though, one cannot reverse engineer a site

The best way to naturally attract links it to have a site with LOT's of good relavent content. Aim for one page per day. This *might* mean you have to diversify a bit, but that can only help.

it is possible to be index in google without any links pointing to you. Nobody knows how they do this, but they can. You can also be index by submitting to Google, but chances are you wont stay there.



Google is increasingly using text that the user sees in determining rankings. With this in mind write at least a couple of descriptive paragraphs (which include your targeted keywords/prhrases for each page. Each page of your site should target only a few keyords and phrases. Stick mostly with phrases as most use Google that way.

Last, but far from least. do NOT rely on only a few pages for all your traffic. This may seem good while/if these pages rank well, but you may well find one day that Google shuffled and you are now page 20! This was very evident during Florida and Brandy updates. Many that were relying on only a few pages are now out of businees. This is because they had not insured themselves against this (by always adding small content pages) The more pages you have bringing in the traffic, the safer you are. Try to have each page (roughly) bring in the same number of visitors. Also, a basic HTML Site Map is always a good idea. Not so much for users, but spiders.
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Old 03-10-2004, 06:11 AM
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Add your page url to the signature at this (or other) forum. It will bring very little trafic or PR, but helps to get the site spidered regularly, so you can see effects of any changes you made.
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:08 PM
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Default Big help

Thanks all for the big help.

Question about "anchor text". What is that exactly? A suggestion that one person had was:

"You will get PR from other site pages and directoies(DMOZ) linking to you. If possible, use keywords in the anchor text that points to you. Never link to links farms and other suss sites."

Please help.

Also, should each page have it's own "keywords". Perhaps I am not understanding the concept of having more than one of your pages ranked highly. I had thought that as long as your home (index) page is ranked highly, that you are ok.

Thanks everyone!
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"Anchor text" is a text used between '<a>' and '</a>'. Nowadays seems that it has quite a big value in getting high rankings.
While optimizing site, it's almost impossible to get high position for many keywords (say more than 2-3) on a single page - that's why you should concentrate on optimizing for similar keywords or phrases on a particular pages of your site - but no more than 2-3. So, for homepage you can make optimization for keyword1 and keyword2, then for page1 optimization for keyword3 and keyword4, etc. - it's much more probable that you will get better results.
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A link to your site could look like either one of the examples below:

In each example, the "anchor" is the
Code:
<a href=>
part (that's what the "a" means: anchor). The "anchor text" is the part between and .

In the first example, the URL is simply repeated, so it displays as www.yoursite.com. That helps because it points people and spiders to your website. However, it contains no keywords.

In the second example, the anchor text includes a descriptive phrase, which displays as This is Your Web Site and could include important keywords describing your site - this is more valuable because you not only get the link to you but also an association between those keywords and your website.
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